I am having problems again with believing in hell!
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A person cannot deny hell and in the same time remain a muslim. So I would advice you not to let Satan take control over you and instead fear Allah and admit that hell exsist. It wont surprise me if quranist end in hell anyway since they have denied our holy prophet sws.
Salaam Sunnah-hero,
As far as I know no muslim on this site denied any prophet, we just don't believe in the lies people wrote about them.
salaam,
Bender -
Salaam Sunnah-hero,
As far as I know no muslim on this site denied any prophet, we just don't believe in the lies people wrote about them.
salaam,
BenderCan you tell me from the quran that it was our exalted prophet muhammad sws who gave us the quran? Can you tell me from the quran about Sahaba karam? If not than YES YOU have DENIED the prophet sws.
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Can you tell me from the quran that it was our exalted prophet muhammad sws who gave us the quran? Can you tell me from the quran about Sahaba karam? If not than YES YOU have DENIED the prophet sws.
Salaam Sunna-Hero,
I think you meant that I denied Bukharie and Co, not Mohammed.
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Salaam Sunna-Hero,
I think you meant that I denied Bukharie and Co, not Mohammed.
Bender I would now make a new topic dedicated for you. Lets see if you can answer all my questions from the quran. I have my prophet sws blessings with me, whos blessings do you have? You are doomed to failure
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Bender I would now make a new topic dedicated for you. Lets see if you can answer all my questions from the quran. I have my prophet sws blessings with me, whos blessings do you have? You are doomed to failure
Salaam Sunnah-Hero,
I am sorry, I have no time for this. You win handshake
red part o I didn't know Mohammed was still alive
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Salaam Sunnah-Hero,
I am sorry, I have no time for this. You win handshake
red part I didn't know Mohammed was still alive
Bender did you EVER waKe up in the morning looking at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself that maybe I am wrong.'' Or do you wake up each morning with your apparently arrogant attitude looking yourself in the mirror telling yourself that today I am ready to tell that freaking sick sunnah hero that I deny his prophet'' maybe you consider me as being a burden for the earth, a sick mentally retarded psychopath who follows 'conjectures' as you quraniyoo call us sunnis but I just want to remind you that YOU CAN BE WRONG! MAYBE the sunnah of the prophet isnt so bad as you think.
Dont say on judgement day that I didn't warned you.
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However though now I understand why some people end up in hell, I have not understood yet the eternal part.
Hell in Jewish and early Christian and contemporary Easten Christian thoughts is not an eternal fire dungeon. The closest thing to hell is short purification of the soul - not eternal. Hell did not become official 'church' doctrine until the 5th century.
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"Peace everyone. I am again having problems with believing in hell. It seems like it impossible for a God to want to torture anyone for eternity in next life.
I would really like to hear some reasoning from everyone as to why would He actually do it? Why pay such a high price for let's say being a nonbelievers but otherwise a good, law obiding, contributing, polite member of society?
I can't think of anything that would justify it in my eyes at the moment. I do bieve in the demons wich means that I do believe in evil just a I believe in good God, its just the torment as described in the Quran that I am struggling with.
Can I get some reasoning please?"
I didn't appear that anyone answered their question "Why pay such a high price for let's say being a nonbelievers but otherwise a good, law obiding, contributing, polite member of society?"
Well first I must ask what they feel is a "non-believer". Non believer in what exactly?
Also from what I remember the quran says that as long as you believe in one god, the last day (having your actions judged), and do righteous deeds than you don't have to worry (about going to hell). Correct me if I am wrong... thanks.
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Peace everyone. I am again having problems with believing in hell. It seems like it impossible for a God to want to torture anyone for eternity in next life.
I would really like to hear some reasoning from everyone as to why would He actually do it? Why pay such a high price for let's say being a nonbelievers but otherwise a good, law obiding, contributing, polite member of society?
I can't think of anything that would justify it in my eyes at the moment. I do bieve in the demons wich means that I do believe in evil just a I believe in good God, its just the torment as described in the Quran that I am struggling with.
Can I get some reasoning please?
Ur definition of a non believer is different than how the Koran understands it. In the Koran the non believers have certain characteristics like stingy, selfish, hypocritical, despise good happening to others, arrogant, despise the truth, transgressive and when confronted with his sins he bloats in arrogance.
Also maybe how we define eternity maybe different than how the Koran understands it. But trying to unerstand the metaphysical world is really a waste of time. Some may say that eternity in heaven is also unfair since nobody deserves such a reward. But in the end its a world we have not seen or experience or even imagine. It something we have to see for ourselves or else we are just speculating.
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Peace everyone. I am again having problems with believing in hell. It seems like it impossible for a God to want to torture anyone for eternity in next life.
I would really like to hear some reasoning from everyone as to why would He actually do it? Why pay such a high price for let's say being a nonbelievers but otherwise a good, law obiding, contributing, polite member of society?
I can't think of anything that would justify it in my eyes at the moment. I do bieve in the demons wich means that I do believe in evil just a I believe in good God, its just the torment as described in the Quran that I am struggling with.
Can I get some reasoning please?
Imagine
people of Somalia, you send a text to them, explaining to them that, if the win this war, and kill every kind and woman, yuou people will go to paradise
you go to Egypt, insert Hadiths to tell them, that you must make a revolution, and kill every unbeliever
you tell people, Allah said in the quran, Tell the truth , you explain it , that it means, Kill your children and the babies of everyone who doesn't think like youETC
There are people in the world, who are doing only this, maling people stupid through intelligence, to ruin their life and their childre's life , exemple, what is happening top the sunnis and shia , etcwhat do you think, people who do all that to create confusion, and hate just to rule, I believe he deserves a hells and not ponly hell,
some people chose not to be humans, but satans, and they love it, making money, and laughing at their folllowers, knwing that they are destrying the lifes of generations through these lies and ideas, do you think these people go to jannah or deserve punishement ?
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i was reading sura 18 57 and thinking.... someone who is selfish, arrogant, egotistical, abusive....would only think of himself and his pain if put in hell regretting for himself the things that he has done. he will be thinking of his suffering in hell.
i would like these individuals who cause pain/injustice to feel the pain they have caused others. and feeling the pain over and over again till they apologize from the heart to the person they had hurt. i want these individuals to think of the suffering they had caused others.
i believe in hell as people who with their free will chose to cause pain and suffering onto others should be held responsible and accountable for.
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An argument I often see in relation to hell is that because this life is finite an eternal punishment is unjust.
I would like to ask the people that think this a question. If those who lived their life corrupting/doing evil were allowed to live forever, would they not continue as they were for eternity? Considering after we die we DO live eternally, I believe Allah is cutting out the middle man somewhat, and giving them the recompense for their actions.
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why should a man who sexually, physically and emotionally abuses a child who as a result is harmed beyond repair not deserve to be in hell forever? there are people who are locked up in prison for life for the crimes they had committed. why would it be unjust to pay for eternity (however that is defined) for heinous deeds done in this life?
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Peace be to you as well!
Everyone gets requited for EXACTLY what they did, unless of course your works are nullified.
7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
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