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    Kaiokenred
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    Praying is for men not men for praying...

    Muslims prays in myriad of ways..
    Yet the true objective of praying is not to earn 'credits' which might earn them Heaven as reward..
    No matter how hard the burden of life being put upon you, praying shall give one a feeling of comfort, peace and happiness.. which hopefully shall resulted in good deeds..

    There are no 'standardized' or the 'most right way' to pray as it goes back to the individuals...
    Praying is an intimate and personal moment between the creation and the creator..
    And no one else besides those two parties has the right to judge whether his/her praying is 'correct' or not...

    "Only by the remembrance of God your heart shall found assurance"
    1328

    Salam / Peace

    Praying is for delusion not for muslims who know the truth.

    Praying =/= remembering

    I remember Allah a lot without praying.

    And how is prayer supposed to make you feel better? It obviously doesn't. That is really high delusion you have there

    Praying is a man made concept, it is not divine.

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      Kaiokenred
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      i was going through some difficult times - clinically depressed. went to the mosque for tarawih prayers. at that time i used to wear a 'hijab' but felt claustrophobic having my ears covered. so i wore my 'hijab' in such a way that only part of my ears were covered. after the prayers were done, i was waiting for the crowd to clear when one of elder women from the mosque approaches me and tells me that God won't accept my prayers. She explained that part of my ear lobe was showing and so my prayers were not valid. So God doesn't care about this young depressed kid who sought comfort. all that God cares is if my ear lobes are showing!

      just another moment in my life that lead me to see God's Truths. koran mentions standing, bowing, prostrating, what tone to use and also what to say. so if you or your family decide ok - let's all pray together this way which may be very different than how i or other's pray but doesn't matter as God is not concerned about numbers, forms, attire and such.

      Yes of course, except that they're all corrupted translations and/or misunderstood.

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        nurmuhammed
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        Praying is for delusion not for muslims who know the truth.

        Praying =/= remembering

        I remember Allah a lot without praying.

        And how is prayer supposed to make you feel better? It obviously doesn't. That is really high delusion you have there

        Praying is a man made concept, it is not divine.

        I still do not understand what you are saying, I wish i do.

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          Kaiokenred
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          I still do not understand what you are saying, I wish i do.

          What do you not understand?

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            nurmuhammed
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            What do you not understand?

            what you are saying

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              Kaiokenred
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              what you are saying

              I don't know of any easier way to say that

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                justamuslim
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                perhaps the question to be asked is what is prayer?

                you can pray lying down, sitting up, standing on your head, walking, and so on. when i am dealing with a particular difficult situation,, i turn to God asking for help and his strength (that's prayer). when i am upset, i ask God to help me hold back my emotions (that's prayer). when i talk to God throughout the day (that's prayer). remembering God and turning to Him is praying which you can do in any state.

                now, i beg to differ with those who state that the koran doesn't specify ablution and physical form of worship. ok God doesn't need us but we need Him. for me this type of praying is stopping, hitting the pause button in the course of the day,clearing your head, engaging in 'meditation' physically and mentally surrendering yourself to God, and asking God to help you avoid the sins, and should you die in the next hours to make your exit be with honor.

                point of praying is to attain piety and righteousness. now, question is do you really need to engage in this kind of worship/praying to attain the ultimate goal? my answer is a 'no'. it is though a good thing.

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                  nurmuhammed
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                  I don't know of any easier way to say that

                  Please try to explain it in other way.

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                    nurmuhammed
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                    perhaps the question to be asked is what is prayer?

                    you can pray lying down, sitting up, standing on your head, walking, and so on. when i am dealing with a particular difficult situation,, i turn to God asking for help and his strength (that's prayer). when i am upset, i ask God to help me hold back my emotions (that's prayer). when i talk to God throughout the day (that's prayer). remembering God and turning to Him is praying which you can do in any state.

                    now, i beg to differ with those who state that the koran doesn't specify ablution and physical form of worship. ok God doesn't need us but we need Him. for me this type of praying is stopping, hitting the pause button in the course of the day,clearing your head, engaging in 'meditation' physically and mentally surrendering yourself to God, and asking God to help you avoid the sins, and should you die in the next hours to make your exit be with honor.

                    point of praying is to attain piety and righteousness. now, question is do you really need to engage in this kind of worship/praying to attain the ultimate goal? my answer is a 'no'. it is though a good thing.

                    let me ask you a question, what do you think about contact prayer, dawn , sunset and middle??

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                      Cow
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                      Praying is for men not men for praying...

                      Muslims prays in myriad of ways..
                      Yet the true objective of praying is not to earn 'credits' which might earn them Heaven as reward..
                      No matter how hard the burden of life being put upon you, praying shall give one a feeling of comfort, peace and happiness.. which hopefully shall resulted in good deeds..

                      There are no 'standardized' or the 'most right way' to pray as it goes back to the individuals...
                      Praying is an intimate and personal moment between the creation and the creator..
                      And no one else besides those two parties has the right to judge whether his/her praying is 'correct' or not...

                      "Only by the remembrance of God your heart shall found assurance"
                      1328

                      Salam / Peace

                      salam alaykum
                      i loved this short explanation.. if only people realise this
                      i agree there is no right way or wrong way to prayer - it is a connection btw the soul and its creator..
                      laugh, cry, stay there one or 4 hours..repeat one praise or use a many eloquent praises to glorify God.. its btw you and God..
                      there is no conformity with prayer..
                      masha allah

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                        justamuslim
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                        let me ask you a question, what do you think about contact prayer, dawn , sunset and middle??

                        yes, the Koran does mention the 'contact prayers' and to do ablution before engaging in that form of prayer. however, the general public seem to miss the point of this form of worship turning it into a mindless ritual and something entirely different.

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                          Abdul-Hadi
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                          Greetings and Peace, all group

                          Praying is for men not men for praying...

                          Muslims prays in myriad of ways..
                          Yet the true objective of praying is not to earn 'credits' which might earn them Heaven as reward..
                          No matter how hard the burden of life being put upon you, praying shall give one a feeling of comfort, peace and happiness.. which hopefully shall resulted in good deeds..

                          There are no 'standardized' or the 'most right way' to pray as it goes back to the individuals...
                          Praying is an intimate and personal moment between the creation and the creator..
                          And no one else besides those two parties has the right to judge whether his/her praying is 'correct' or not...

                          "Only by the remembrance of God your heart shall found assurance"
                          1328

                          Salam / Peace

                          handshake

                          3341 O you who believe, you shall remember GOD frequently.

                          3342 And glorify Him morning and evening.

                          ALLAH knows best.

                          peace

                          ~Abdul-Hadi

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                            nurmuhammed
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                            yes, the Koran does mention the 'contact prayers' and to do ablution before engaging in that form of prayer. however, the general public seem to miss the point of this form of worship turning it into a mindless ritual and something entirely different.

                            yeah man, that is what i'm talking about...

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