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Why the importance of believing in One God?

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    Mr_Q
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    No, the accurate version of the message would be " Do not believe in a god, he does not exist, There is no god, there is only Allah. If you're religious you will create hell on Earth " which is what happened

    The word Allah does not exist in 373-5. Your personal theology and opinions have no bearing on the truth of the actual verses of Quran. I would ask you to post the verses for your opinions above but we already know you can't. Simply claiming, "everything I don't like is wrong and I don't have to provide evidence from Quran!" doesn't change the facts.

    Here for you is 374 Inna ilahakum lawahidun "Your god is indeed One."

    Also, Allah calls Himself a god in the Quran below as well. No matter how much you don't want it to be so, the Quran says what it says.

    And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable. (4384)
    Your god is Allah; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things. (209
    And Allah said "Do not take-up two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence." (1651)

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      Kaiokenred
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      The word Allah does not exist in 373-5. Your personal theology and opinions have no bearing on the truth of the actual verses of Quran. I would ask you to post the verses for your opinions above but we already know you can't. Simply claiming, "everything I don't like is wrong and I don't have to provide evidence from Quran!" doesn't change the facts.

      Here for you is 374 Inna ilahakum lawahidun "Your god is indeed One."

      Also, Allah calls Himself a god in the Quran below as well. No matter how much you don't want it to be so, the Quran says what it says.

      And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable. (4384)
      Your god is Allah; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things. (209
      And Allah said "Do not take-up two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence." (1651)

      Changed and corrupted versions of Quran are worth nothing sorry

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        Ruuube
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        A lot of people have posted scripture in response, and it is absolutely right that they did so. So instead I'll post what I inferred from the scripture with my own reasoning.

        I believe it's important to believe in one God, because to do otherwise is the ultimate disrespect. Allah has done everything for you, entirely for your own benefit -- and in return he only asks that you be good to him, be good to others, and be good to yourself -- things, that we as human beings should be doing anyway.

        So, to attribute the aspects of the unseen to other than God is to discredit God. He reminds and reminds and reminds, subtly or clearly, and yet others would like to say 'such and such God did this for me.' a nonexistant being, the creation of someone else's mind.

        Imagine if you will that you never met your mother in person. She lived so far away that you could not see her, yet every morning a package arrived with your clothes washed and pressed, money to support yourself, and a helper arrived with that package to cook your meals, give you advice, and generally aid you throughout your days.

        You figure it's an old friend of yours that's doing it, so you attribute it to him. You talk with your neighbours, and a few of them tell you 'It's your mother sending those packages and hiring that assistant. She told me before she left you.' In the face of that, you decide to not bother to connect the dots and still attribute this help to your old friend.

        It's like that, but on a much larger scale. Allah is literally the reason you live and die, so I can understand to an extent why he would simply ask to be recognised for his works.

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          Kaiokenred
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          A lot of people have posted scripture in response, and it is absolutely right that they did so. So instead I'll post what I inferred from the scripture with my own reasoning.

          I believe it's important to believe in one God, because to do otherwise is the ultimate disrespect. Allah has done everything for you, entirely for your own benefit -- and in return he only asks that you be good to him, be good to others, and be good to yourself -- things, that we as human beings should be doing anyway.

          So, to attribute the aspects of the unseen to other than God is to discredit God. He reminds and reminds and reminds, subtly or clearly, and yet others would like to say 'such and such God did this for me.' a nonexistant being, the creation of someone else's mind.

          Imagine if you will that you never met your mother in person. She lived so far away that you could not see her, yet every morning a package arrived with your clothes washed and pressed, money to support yourself, and a helper arrived with that package to cook your meals, give you advice, and generally aid you throughout your days.

          You figure it's an old friend of yours that's doing it, so you attribute it to him. You talk with your neighbours, and a few of them tell you 'It's your mother sending those packages and hiring that assistant. She told me before she left you.' In the face of that, you decide to not bother to connect the dots and still attribute this help to your old friend.

          It's like that, but on a much larger scale. Allah is literally the reason you live and die, so I can understand to an extent why he would simply ask to be recognised for his works.

          Allah = Not God

          Don't lower Allah to an imaginary entity please

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            Mr_Q
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            God in quran emphasize his oneness a lot, so it means that its very important to believe in 'one God' but Why is believing in one God anyhow better then believing in several Gods?

            The most simple answer is it's The Truth.

            Believing in idols (other nonexistent, powerless, "gods&quot can only lead you astray from God with dire eternal consequences.

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              Jafar
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              Allah does not mean " The God "
              it means who is not god or Not God
              Allah is the perfect anti name
              it is neither a name nor not a name

              If your hypothesis is true.. IN arabic that will be Lam-Illah.. (Not Illah, Not God or not made God (verb) )

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                Mr_Q
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                Changed and corrupted versions of Quran are worth nothing sorry

                Now you go from "traditionalist translations" to changed and corrupted versions of Quran? Are you saying THE Quran has been changed and corrupted? Below is the Arabic and trasliterated Arabic. Do your OWN study and see for yourself or you can follow Abdun Nur. It's your choice.

                Innama ilahukumu Allahu allathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAa kulla shayin AAilman (209
                Your god is Allah; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                Waqala Allahu la tattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwa ilahun wahidun faiyyaya fairhabooni (1651)
                And Allah said "Do not take-up two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                Wahuwa allathee fee alssamai ilahun wafee alardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemu alAAaleemu (4384)
                And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                Inna ilahakum lawahidun (374)
                "Your god is indeed One."

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                  Kaiokenred
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                  Now you go from "traditionalist translations" to changed and corrupted versions of Quran? Are you saying THE Quran has been changed and corrupted? Below is the Arabic and trasliterated Arabic. Do your OWN study and see for yourself or you can follow Abdun Nur. It's your choice.

                  Innama ilahukumu Allahu allathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAa kulla shayin AAilman (209
                  Your god is Allah; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                  Waqala Allahu la tattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwa ilahun wahidun faiyyaya fairhabooni (1651)
                  And Allah said "Do not take-up two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                  Wahuwa allathee fee alssamai ilahun wafee alardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemu alAAaleemu (4384)
                  And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                  Inna ilahakum lawahidun (374)
                  "Your god is indeed One."

                  It's the same. Except that besides translations, the Quran you follow is also CHANGED. That is a 100% fact

                  Again, repeat the same verses as many times as you want, it won't prove anything when you don't have the right translations.

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                    Kaiokenred
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                    If your hypothesis is true.. IN arabic that will be Lam-Illah.. (Not Illah, Not God or not made God (verb) )

                    Really? Then why does nobody else disagree with Allathee Laa Illah ( might have made a small mistake here ) meaning Who is not god?

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                      Bigmo
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                      My atheist friend asked me a question.

                      God in quran emphasize his oneness a lot, so it means that its very important to believe in 'one God' but Why is believing in one God anyhow better then believing in several Gods?

                      And what does it mean to believe in 'One God' how does one believe in 'One God'?

                      Shirk is a mockery. Just look at some of the pagan religions and their mythology and theology. Their stories about the gods and creation. Just read some of the creation stories.

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                        Mr_Q
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                        Really? Then why does nobody else disagree with Allathee Laa Illah ( might have made a small mistake here ) meaning Who is not god?

                        And where is that stated in the Quran?

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                          Ghazelle
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                          Shirk is a mockery. Just look at some of the pagan religions and their mythology and theology. Their stories about the gods and creation. Just read some of the creation stories.

                          If youre referring to creation stories from other deities - some of those creation stories are, how can I put it politely, very explicit!

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                            Kaiokenred
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                            And where is that stated in the Quran?

                            Uh? Like a lot of times? Have you even read an article to full on servantofthelight?

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                              Jafar
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                              Really? Then why does nobody else disagree with Allathee Laa Illah ( might have made a small mistake here ) meaning Who is not god?

                              I think what you're saying here is The thing which called "Allah" in the Quran is not a DEITY..

                              If that's the case, the Taoist / Buddhist and many eastern cultures have similar view..
                              They view "The Supreme Force of all universe" as "a power", "an energy", "a force"..
                              In which Lao Tse said, 'it has no name, as name itself is created yet for the sake of discussion let's name It TAO".

                              Salam / Peace

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                                Zulf
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                                It's tricky trying to understand that which people commonly call Allah, God, Tao............ . .. .
                                We cannot fully grasp it. Perhaps all we can do is to realize what it is not... and also its qualities.

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                                  Kaiokenred
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                                  I think what you're saying here is The thing which called "Allah" in the Quran is not a DEITY..

                                  If that's the case, the Taoist / Buddhist and many eastern cultures have similar view..
                                  They view "The Supreme Force of all universe" as "a power", "an energy", "a force"..
                                  In which Lao Tse said, 'it has no name, as name itself is created yet for the sake of discussion let's name It TAO".

                                  Salam / Peace

                                  Yeah a correct translation would also be " who is not a deity for worship and adoration "

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                                    Mr_Q
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                                    ad?o?ra?tion
                                    noun
                                    1.
                                    the act of paying honor, as to a divine being; worship.
                                    2.
                                    reverent homage.
                                    3.
                                    fervent and devoted love.

                                    So you say the Quran teaches to NOT pay honor to God, to NOT worship Him in any way shape or form, to NOT be reverent of God, and to NOT love God? o

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                                      Kaiokenred
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                                      ad?o?ra?tion
                                      noun
                                      1.
                                      the act of paying honor, as to a divine being; worship.
                                      2.
                                      reverent homage.
                                      3.
                                      fervent and devoted love.

                                      So you say the Quran teaches to NOT pay honor to God, to NOT worship Him in any way shape or form, to NOT be reverent of God, and to NOT love God? o

                                      Yep, because the Quran makes it clear god does not exist.

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                                        Salaam
                                        In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
                                        Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
                                        3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
                                        Peace

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                                          Kaiokenred
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                                          Salaam
                                          In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
                                          Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
                                          3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
                                          Peace

                                          But Allah is not a god.

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