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Three or Five Daily Prayers?

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    Bigmo
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    You are wasting your time. He is a 14 year old boy who only follows the un-Quranic theologies of Abdun Nur. He doesn't believe in ANY translation except one created by that guy and he has only (mis)translated/fabricated less than 10% of the Quran. He is not even going by anything the Quran actually says so you are wasting your time asking him to give his evidence for his beliefs.

    Well one thing i have to give to him is that I wish when I was 14 that I actually cared about religious issues and the Koran like he does. Man, I think that was the last thing on my mind. I was into sports and movies. I would not even have bothered in a forum like this. But then again in my time there was no internet so who knows. But he is starting young so that is a big plus for him.

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      Zulf
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      I wonder if anyone has done any research on 'shirk' (thru the quran), similar to what has been done on other terms such as 'salat' or 'jinn'. I mean, since shirk is the only unforgivable sin, then one would think it would be possible to have it defined from the quran through a thorough study. Not just a verse or two... but through cross referencing etc a la the many salat-studies.

      Peace and Cheers
      Peach and Cherries

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        Bigmo
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        I wonder if anyone has done any research on 'shirk' (thru the quran), similar to what has been done on other terms such as 'salat' or 'jinn'. I mean, since shirk is the only unforgivable sin, then one would think it would be possible to have it defined from the quran through a thorough study. Not just a verse or two... but through cross referencing etc a la the many salat-studies.

        Peace and Cheers
        Peach and Cherries

        The Koran tells the prophet to communicate with the Rabbis and ask for their religious sources it also tells us to go forth on Earth and seek wisdom and see what has happened to other nations. Seeking knowledge is what the Koran told us.

        There are many pagan traditions we know of. Chinese, Indian, Greek, Roman, Babylonian, Persian, Egyptian, and many South American and African. There is Japanese and there is Australian. Its all over the place.

        My main concern here is the comparison between idol worship and monotheism. Between polytheism or paganism versus monotheism. Between the gods of the pagan religions and the God of the Bible and Koran. The theological difference.

        As far as the Koran is concerned, nearly all the characteristic of God in the Koran dismisses paganism.

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            Recluse
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            You are wasting your time. He is a 14 year old boy who only follows the un-Quranic theologies of Abdun Nur. He doesn't believe in ANY translation except one created by that guy and he has only (mis)translated/fabricated less than 10% of the Quran. He is not even going by anything the Quran actually says so you are wasting your time asking him to give his evidence for his beliefs.

            Thanks, yeah it's obvious.

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              Ghazelle
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              In answer to the first post - if youre a traditionalist then the number is at least 10! D

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                Kaiokenred
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                Thanks, yeah it's obvious.

                What's obvious is your lack of reasoning

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                  Belief in the evil eye is found in Islamic doctrine, based upon the statement of Muhammad, "The influence of an evil eye is a fact..." . Authentic practices of warding off the evil eye are also commonly practiced by Muslims rather than directly expressing appreciation of, for example, a child's beauty, it is customary to say Masha'Allah, that is, "God has willed it," or invoking God's blessings upon the object or person that is being admired. Aside from beliefs based upon authentic Islamic texts, a number of unsubstantiated beliefs about the evil eye are found in folk religion, typically revolving around the use of amulets or talismans as a means of protection.

                  Is belief in the evil eye and warding off the evil eye with a charm such as a bracelet or necklace a form of shirk?

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                    Belief in the evil eye is found in Islamic doctrine, based upon the statement of Muhammad, "The influence of an evil eye is a fact..." . Authentic practices of warding off the evil eye are also commonly practiced by Muslims rather than directly expressing appreciation of, for example, a child's beauty, it is customary to say Masha'Allah, that is, "God has willed it," or invoking God's blessings upon the object or person that is being admired. Aside from beliefs based upon authentic Islamic texts, a number of unsubstantiated beliefs about the evil eye are found in folk religion, typically revolving around the use of amulets or talismans as a means of protection.

                    Is belief in the evil eye and warding off the evil eye with a charm such as a bracelet or necklace a form of shirk?

                    dear lenochka,
                    I think it is a foolishness either you believe in it or not. but it seems very attractive on a person like if use it in fashion way as pineal gland.....
                    http//fc05.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/078/b/5/Third_Eye_by_PanCthulhu.jpg

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                      Mr_Q
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                      Bigmo you should start a new thread on shirk and paganism according to the Quran so it doesn't get "lost" in this thread. I think it would be interesting and beneficial.

                      The Koran tells the prophet to communicate with the Rabbis and ask for their religious sources it also tells us to go forth on Earth and seek wisdom and see what has happened to other nations. Seeking knowledge is what the Koran told us.

                      There are many pagan traditions we know of. Chinese, Indian, Greek, Roman, Babylonian, Persian, Egyptian, and many South American and African. There is Japanese and there is Australian. Its all over the place.

                      My main concern here is the comparison between idol worship and monotheism. Between polytheism or paganism versus monotheism. Between the gods of the pagan religions and the God of the Bible and Koran. The theological difference.

                      As far as the Koran is concerned, nearly all the characteristic of God in the Koran dismisses paganism.

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