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    donnyw
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    w/salaam,

    Welcome.

    What website was it?

    Peace Wakas, glad to meet you.

    First I stumbled upon www.submission.info, witnessing the miracle of 19 is the beginning of my journey, I read Dr. Rashad article on Quran and Hadith which changed my view entirely. Then I also visit 19.org, read Edip Yuksel articles, and many other wesbites including including free-minds.org

    By the way it was during 2010-2011, I edited my post already.

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      mmkhan
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      Salaaman bro,

      welcome to the forum.

      May Allah bless you with everything lawful and increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
      mmKhan

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        johan
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        Peace....

        I would like to introduce myself. I'm just ordinary guy living in Asia, in one of the largest Muslim population in the world.
        ...
        Salam.

        Salam,
        Dari indo ya bro?
        Met berforum disini..
        Salam,

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          crustinpeace
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          welcome donnyw

          You will learn a lot from this forum and maybe in time you will meet others who share your views. It can be a very hard process to break away from hadith as in my experience (even as a convert) I can see that many people consider it quite evil even to seriously question the hadith, let alone break free from it. Their attachment to hadith is so strong - it amazes me. It sounds like you've come a long way already and may God make things easier on you when it comes to speaking with your parents about this.

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            youssef4342
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            Peace be with you as well and welcomes!
            keep searching and learning and praying for knowledge and wisdom.
            and Just a note Be careful on whom you talk to. If you want to spread the word, you could just leave flyer by. You're living in a predominant Sunni Society... be careful.
            May God Almighty Protect us.

            Recommended readings
            The Original purpose of our creation
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
            God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
            God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
            7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
            ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

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              donnyw
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              Thanks all for the good advice and encouragement, I agree things can be difficult when living in predominant sunni society. I'll be careful.

              Johan, ya benar.. salam kenal!

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                Meemz
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                Salaam

                Welcome. I hope you will increase your knowledge here. I'm glad you have such a supportive family. My family is either Sunni or Christian. They respect my beliefs but I've been trying to get them over to my side with little to no avail.

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                  on-my-own
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                  welcome donnyw
                  I can see that many people consider it quite evil even to seriously question the hadith, let alone break free from it. Their attachment to hadith is so strong - it amazes me.

                  That is so true. There is always that fear that muslims would simply reject me as a muslim and judge me simply because I don't view hadith in that high regard

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                    Bender
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                    Salaam brother,

                    Nice story, welcome to the forum handshake

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                      donnyw
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                      Salam Bender, glad to meet you handshake

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                        good_logic
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                        Peace donnyw.

                        Welcome. Keep up your loyalty to your Lord.

                        I see you are already adding your views to the forum. Keep it up.

                        Peace.

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                          GODsubmitter
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                          Thank you for sharing your story.

                          It is funny though that you started asking yourself about the purpose of why are we here, just exactly when got married.
                          It happened to some of my other friends, too. )

                          At the end you say you convinced, and talked into Quran-alone idea, almost everybody, your younger bright brother, friends, etc, etc, but you do not mention your wife? What about her? Can she read, or is she not religious? Because you see, I think for you to be perfectly happy you should be in harmony with the person you spend most time with!

                          I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website? Thank you.

                          But turns out after I study it halfway, my heart trembling, I'm shaking, I cried and cried upon seeing the truth presented before me, I knew something very important was there, it takes many sleepless night and few months before I finally convinced myself that this is the truth from God Almighty

                          Peace

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                            BornAgain
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                            Salaam Johan dan Donny,

                            Wuaaahhh ada lagi orang Indonesia di Free Minds. Met kenaaal! Kalian aktif juga di FAS engga?

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                              donnyw
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                              thank you good logic, Godsubmitter and BornAgain.

                              Yes my life changed drastically after I got married, I felt getting married was a huge blessing for me, I was living in other country previously and living like hell, I meant lot of stress, due to work (business) and relationship, I kept questioning the quality of my life that time, I never prayed, never do anything righteous, I was really ashamed of my life, felt it wasn't me.

                              Then I got back and met my wife, a friend form from my childhood, and just deciding to marry her and never get back to that other country anymore.

                              After I got married things turned the opposite, I starting seeing that my life has purpose lol, and most important made me closer to God.

                              My wife is now following Quran alone too, I almost preached to her till she gets boring everyday. At first she had a little interest, until one day she saw on TV (which specially aired Quran recitation and translation) and she found that what I've told her indeed there.

                              In our custom, Quran is not to be read (its translation), but to recite like singing, to understand its meaning is not necessary, even most believe reading the translation by ourselves is not good because we must learn from the expert to know the meaning, BornAgain must know this as we at the same country D

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                                donnyw
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                                Salaam Johan dan Donny,

                                Wuaaahhh ada lagi orang Indonesia di Free Minds. Met kenaaal! Kalian aktif juga di FAS engga?

                                Salam BornAgain, FAS apaan tuh?

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                                  GODsubmitter
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                                  Thank you for the answer.

                                  I also like listening to chanting of the Quran, especially since I've heard that some people think it has even soothing affect, even curing effect, like Rukiya and stuff...

                                  But you did not answer my little question )
                                  I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website?

                                  Thank you.

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                                    johan
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                                    Salaam Johan dan Donny,

                                    Wuaaahhh ada lagi orang Indonesia di Free Minds. Met kenaaal! Kalian aktif juga di FAS engga?

                                    Salaam BornAgain,

                                    met kenal juga )
                                    belum pernah denger FAS..forum apa?

                                    Salaam

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                                      donnyw
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                                      Thank you for the answer.

                                      I also like listening to chanting of the Quran, especially since I've heard that some people think it has even soothing affect, even curing effect, like Rukiya and stuff...

                                      But you did not answer my little question )
                                      I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website?

                                      Thank you.

                                      Glad that you find more knowledge and closer to God brother, may God bless you more.
                                      By the way in my opinion do not concentrate on chanting Quran without you understand or read its translation (meaning). As Quran is actually a guidance, so we should read and learn to understand, I agree in some degree listening to Quran recitation (in Arabic) is soothing, but without really learning it, I believe it is just inviting God's wrath. As God send Quran to be read and learnt.
                                      Also do not believe that Quran can cure or some sort of that, as the cure is coming from Allah only, some people making Quran as magic book instead of learning it.

                                      Yes, the web at MasjidTucson that moved me to tears, because that was when I first realized the real reason why I'm being here in earth, so this life is not what I'm thinking about before, it is not about living as good, kind people as I believed earlier, it is actually not enough, as the real life is about to uphold one god which is God and nothing else, not even the hadith which I came to know are just conjecture. I came to realized that this is crucial part of our life and I cried because God still let me know this knowledge, means God still allow me to repent despite so many sins I have done in the past and neglecting Him.

                                      I dont know if God fully accept my repentance or not, nobody knows, and i realized we also do not know our view is right or wrong, even we dont know whether MasjidTucson website is fully right or many of it has mistakes.

                                      Most important in my opinion, is not to get back to old habit which is to idolize anything, not even idolizing Dr Rashad, not Muhammad, no sect even they claim as Quran alone follower like Submitter, because personality or entity is not important, the most important is the message. They are just human, we can learn but never idolize anything, we get true knowledge only when God allows.

                                      Wish you find more truth brother and share your finding with us.

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                                        GODsubmitter
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                                        Thank you brother for your sincere and good words! sun

                                        group

                                        peace

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                                          BornAgain
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                                          Salaam Donny dan Johan,

                                          FAS itu forum Allah Semata, versi Indonesianya Free Minds. Tapi forumnya sepiiii banget, paling cuma 5-7 orang yang aktif.

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