Salamun Alaikum
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Peace be with you as well and welcomes!
keep searching and learning and praying for knowledge and wisdom.
and Just a note Be careful on whom you talk to. If you want to spread the word, you could just leave flyer by. You're living in a predominant Sunni Society... be careful.
May God Almighty Protect us.Recommended readings
The Original purpose of our creation
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
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welcome donnyw
I can see that many people consider it quite evil even to seriously question the hadith, let alone break free from it. Their attachment to hadith is so strong - it amazes me.That is so true. There is always that fear that muslims would simply reject me as a muslim and judge me simply because I don't view hadith in that high regard
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Peace donnyw.
Welcome. Keep up your loyalty to your Lord.
I see you are already adding your views to the forum. Keep it up.
Peace.
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Thank you for sharing your story.
It is funny though that you started asking yourself about the purpose of why are we here, just exactly when got married.
It happened to some of my other friends, too. )At the end you say you convinced, and talked into Quran-alone idea, almost everybody, your younger bright brother, friends, etc, etc, but you do not mention your wife? What about her? Can she read, or is she not religious? Because you see, I think for you to be perfectly happy you should be in harmony with the person you spend most time with!
I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website? Thank you.
But turns out after I study it halfway, my heart trembling, I'm shaking, I cried and cried upon seeing the truth presented before me, I knew something very important was there, it takes many sleepless night and few months before I finally convinced myself that this is the truth from God Almighty
Peace
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thank you good logic, Godsubmitter and BornAgain.
Yes my life changed drastically after I got married, I felt getting married was a huge blessing for me, I was living in other country previously and living like hell, I meant lot of stress, due to work (business) and relationship, I kept questioning the quality of my life that time, I never prayed, never do anything righteous, I was really ashamed of my life, felt it wasn't me.
Then I got back and met my wife, a friend form from my childhood, and just deciding to marry her and never get back to that other country anymore.
After I got married things turned the opposite, I starting seeing that my life has purpose lol, and most important made me closer to God.
My wife is now following Quran alone too, I almost preached to her till she gets boring everyday. At first she had a little interest, until one day she saw on TV (which specially aired Quran recitation and translation) and she found that what I've told her indeed there.
In our custom, Quran is not to be read (its translation), but to recite like singing, to understand its meaning is not necessary, even most believe reading the translation by ourselves is not good because we must learn from the expert to know the meaning, BornAgain must know this as we at the same country D
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Thank you for the answer.
I also like listening to chanting of the Quran, especially since I've heard that some people think it has even soothing affect, even curing effect, like Rukiya and stuff...
But you did not answer my little question )
I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website?Thank you.
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Thank you for the answer.
I also like listening to chanting of the Quran, especially since I've heard that some people think it has even soothing affect, even curing effect, like Rukiya and stuff...
But you did not answer my little question )
I would like to ask you a little thing, could you please tell me where did you read those turning point information, and which site it was that moved you to tears? Was it something else, or just MasjidTuscon website?Thank you.
Glad that you find more knowledge and closer to God brother, may God bless you more.
By the way in my opinion do not concentrate on chanting Quran without you understand or read its translation (meaning). As Quran is actually a guidance, so we should read and learn to understand, I agree in some degree listening to Quran recitation (in Arabic) is soothing, but without really learning it, I believe it is just inviting God's wrath. As God send Quran to be read and learnt.
Also do not believe that Quran can cure or some sort of that, as the cure is coming from Allah only, some people making Quran as magic book instead of learning it.Yes, the web at MasjidTucson that moved me to tears, because that was when I first realized the real reason why I'm being here in earth, so this life is not what I'm thinking about before, it is not about living as good, kind people as I believed earlier, it is actually not enough, as the real life is about to uphold one god which is God and nothing else, not even the hadith which I came to know are just conjecture. I came to realized that this is crucial part of our life and I cried because God still let me know this knowledge, means God still allow me to repent despite so many sins I have done in the past and neglecting Him.
I dont know if God fully accept my repentance or not, nobody knows, and i realized we also do not know our view is right or wrong, even we dont know whether MasjidTucson website is fully right or many of it has mistakes.
Most important in my opinion, is not to get back to old habit which is to idolize anything, not even idolizing Dr Rashad, not Muhammad, no sect even they claim as Quran alone follower like Submitter, because personality or entity is not important, the most important is the message. They are just human, we can learn but never idolize anything, we get true knowledge only when God allows.
Wish you find more truth brother and share your finding with us.
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Thank you brother for your sincere and good words! sun
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peace
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......because that was when I first realized the real reason why I'm being here in earth, so this life is not what I'm thinking about before, it is not about living as good, kind people as I believed earlier, it is actually not enough.....
Hi Donnyw
Your quote above is interesting for me as I have started to feel exactly the opposite of what you have mentioned i.e. Earlier, from a so called religious person, I feel these days that that the real reason why I am being here on earth (so this life is actually what I never thought before) is actually about living as good, kind person and it is actually seems to be enough for me these days. Seems I am going in a wrong direction!!This is what I have been thinking earlier and despite changing my focal point a number of times, I feel getting nowhere!!
Salam and welcome
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I believe in the life before death! sun
peace
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Hi Donnyw
Your quote above is interesting for me as I have started to feel exactly the opposite of what you have mentioned i.e. Earlier, from a so called religious person, I feel these days that that the real reason why I am being here on earth (so this life is actually what I never thought before) is actually about living as good, kind person and it is actually seems to be enough for me these days. Seems I am going in a wrong direction!!This is what I have been thinking earlier and despite changing my focal point a number of times, I feel getting nowhere!!
Salam and welcome
Salam Patanahi, thank you for your reply and wish God bless you more.
Just to convey my opinion, all 'religions' including 'Islam' which is believed by most people right now emphasizes of effort to be kind and good person and they said this is the true goal of living in this world.
I dont say that it is incorrect, but it is not enough.
Remember in AlBaqarah Allah said there are 3 minimum criteria of being a true believer who will go to heaven.
- Believe in Allah
- Believe in the Judgement day
- Doing righteous work
So being kind, good person qualify us for some part of no 3, hence to be righteous not only being kind, good, just, fair people, but we also know that it is also to observe salat, zakat etc. There is purpose of that, and eventually it is clear the command of the 'rituals' is indeed to make a person to have a strong and good characters.
Anyhow how about point 1 and 2? Eventually being righteous (no 3) only is not enough to meet those two other important criteria, because that is the life is about, earth wasn't created by God for no reason, God can keep us in heaven if He only wants us to observe being righteous (point 3), but earth was created because this is a testing ground for not only point 3, but equally if not more important point 1 and 2, which is not possible if no earth in first place, of course if all people is still in Heaven, they know God exist nobody will be atheist or idol worshiper, but in earth we see the true color of human revealed, indeed some of them do not believe God exist at all, some believe but require other person or object to believe (idol worshiper)!
So life in earth will reveal the true color of a person, he can be kind and good people, but deeper in his heart he simply just an opponent of God, how many atheist people that are good people? I believe many of them, but they are just opponent of God.
This is my opinion.
Salam.