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    youssef4342
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    peace be with you as well
    well, I would believe in extraterrestrial life, maybe even in other universes 4229
    also, Jinns might possess the capability of having advanced technology 2738
    they could fly around and "touch the sky" 728

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      Kamzo19
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      Peace, to all.

      Well Youssef, I agree with you. But I don't understand what is the relation with 4221 and "another universe" as you said. Did you hear what is said to have happened to the Admiral Byrd when he flew to the Pole ? A lot of sightings of strange otherwordly but earthly beings are seen around,(sometimes heard around, for example see "The Psychic Sasquatch and their UFO connection" by Jack Lapseritis M.S.).

      As for you, Johan, the expression "energy beings" , in my opinion, is unaccurate and lacks of relevance; because all beings, Humans, plants, and animals, are made of energy, so they are energy beings. The question that has to be answered is "what is the range of reality in which these Jinns can operate ?" . And if you try to answer, you have to consider if they operate with their physical body, or in a different plan of reality, with their astral body, or remotely by other psychic means.

      Some researchers have thought about the possibility of creatures operating in the range of plasma electricity. Is this what you mean, Johan ?

      Peace,

      kamzo

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        Prince
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        Some researchers have thought about the possibility of creatures operating in the range of plasma electricity. Is this what you mean, Johan ?

        Peace,

        kamzo

        I quoted you with the response of energy beings.

        Yeh I agree with you energy beings is inaccurate and I believe plasma beings maybe more relevant in describing them.

        It would be interesting if anyone has an article they can post possibly linking jinns, nephilim, annunaki, arkans etc and getting a better picture of jinns. Not saying that the listed are synonymous and that the quran is inaccurate but the problem lies in deciphering our reality to what the quran is trying to tell us.

        PEACE

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          savage_carrot
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          Related to this but not delving into any quranic aspects/aliens etc...would be interested in knowing if anyone has any articles related to unidentified objects reported by pilots specifically? Not static objects (e.g. it looked like a cigar/saucer etc) but coloured/brightly lit moving ones behaving intelligently. I've read some accounts and would like to read a decent compilation since my interest is related to a similar account which I have no reason to doubt. Tia.

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            Student_of_Allah
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            Shalom Aleikhem,

            I don't even know where to start. The clue is in the term UFO.

            Peace

            ------------ Student of Allah

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              AK85
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              I saw this on a T.V. show about U.F.O.s, some very interesting stuff

              http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident

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                Kamzo19
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                Peace to all,

                Well, the article AK85 has put is a very nice one. It illustrates what a lot of pilots can see in their everyday job, proving that UFOs are real, but cannot be identified as 100% being from an extraterrestrial origin. It's intelligent, but it can be terrestrial. It also shows how if an army of UFOs like the one of the Teheran incident would attack earth's defense forces and armies, we wouldn't be able to resist more than two days...

                As for the answer to SavageCarrot, I don't know any book related specifically to only what pilots have seen, but, you can read any of Jacque Vall?e's books, starting by his last one "Wonders in the Sky".

                Peace,

                Kamzo

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                  savage_carrot
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                  Yeah I read that one, interesting stuff. And thanks Kamzo, will give it a try.

                  peace

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                    AK85
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                    if you read the pilot's account of the speed of the objects, as well as how his jet's weapon systems etc. stopped working whenever he got too close, very interesting/thought provoking stuff

                    also funny how there were high ranking u.s. military officials there to debrief him as soon as he landed

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                      I sent someone an account back in 2006 and my thoughts

                      Anyway, my father is a commercial pilot (former millitary) and him and a co-pilot reported anomalous phenomena consisting of a ball of green light over the atlantic on a trans-atlantic night flight. This ball behaved very strangely as it sort of started following the plane and then doing these acrobatic stunts that my father said was impossible for any conventional plane be it commercial or millitary to have done, as the negative g's were not possible to pull off the way it was happening. Then after around 5 minutes of doing this, it streaked by their plane and disappeared and immediately their EMS started malfunctioning and the alarms went off.

                      This is reported by many pilots in the course of half a century and the aviation authorities take it seriously enough to do reports on them as they are all reported by professionals who have no reason to fake anything. In many cases there have been multiple witnesses as well. The behaviour seems like dolphins when they sight a boat and want to get attention, curious and playful. Here is a link about the phenomenon, they have pictures, accounts, research and studies done on it

                      http//www.narcap.org/

                      What is interesting is that the skeptics thought it was ball lightning etc etc but they all turned up wrong as the indepth studies prove that it can't be ball lightning or their conventional explanations. They end the reports by saying uptil now, we have no idea what this is and why it happens. I know that we keep discovering species, do you think this might be a kind of life form of some sort given the reactions and actions that it displays? If it is natural phenomena which is proven conclusively as the reprts and evidence suggest, then how is the behaviour explained?

                      Think he also mentioned something to do with ice, some system turned on after.

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                        AK85
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                        My friend told me (I know not the greatest source) that heard a story about how the Soviets actually launched someone into space before Yuri Gagarin, but that his ship was intercepted by two alien ship, and they both played "ping pong" with the soviet ship before getting bored and going their own way. Needless to say the Soviets were apparently so shocked that they covered up the whole thing.

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                          AK85
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                          My friend told me (I know not the greatest source) that heard a story about how the Soviets actually launched someone into space before Yuri Gagarin, but that his ship was intercepted by two alien ship, and they both played "ping pong" with the soviet ship before getting bored and going their own way. Needless to say the Soviets were apparently so shocked that they covered up the whole thing.

                          And the ship was completely fine and intact, the aliens just wanted to have some fun apparently.

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                            savage_carrot
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                            Think I read that someplace but thought it was a urban space legend.

                            There are aliens and then there are aliens. Personally, I wouldn't think things would be as ambiguous if aliens like they say exist, actually do exist.

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                              Salam to all,

                              Well, this kind of incident ressembles what happened to the Phobos satellite. Google it as "phobos incident", when the Russians sent a satellite to Mars and it was intercepted by "something" intelligent. It is very well documented. It showed them that one of the natural moons of Mars, named Phobos, may be inhabited, as well as the moon. Late Zecharia Sitchin describes in "the 12th Planet" and in "Genesis Revisited", how Mars was once a space station for a race of beings who lived in a distant planet of our solar system, when they visited Earth thousands of years ago. (Last time was during Sumerian period).

                              A book has also been written in the field of parapsychology, by the famous Ingo Swann, the remote viewer of the CIA. It's entitled "Penetration". He explains how an agency used his psychic gift to explore the surface of our Moon. When doing so, surprise, there was tremendous activity upthere. You can download it for free at 4shared.com. If you add to that the dozens of NASA photographs and pictures took by independant researchers that show anomalies on the Moon. It leaves no doubt that the surface of our Moon is inhabited by intelligent people who build tall buildings, dig tunnels, and install power plants that generate a lot of heat. The power plants generating heat are also the way governments noticed that Earth's underground was inhabited by non-humans when watching infrared satellite pictures, they noticed that supposedly desert regions of the globe had places in the ground from where great amounts of heat was escaping.

                              Observations shew at those places intense UFO activity, (literally UFOs coming out from inside mountains, and landing inside. They noticed also similar activity in mountain area in Africa, Australia, South America, and in famous lakes in South America for example. A lot of books about that...

                              It's interesting to notice that these places were sacred for indigenous people in the Past. They say that the "gods" lived there. Storied also talk about "serpent gods", interesting when compared to "jinns" that mean "serpent" in Old Arabic....

                              Peace.

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                                Prince
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                                Interesting topic this is turning out to be.

                                What i find interesting is how the quran describes jinns being chased out of heavens by projectiles which when observing our reality could possibly hint to being ufos.??

                                PEACE

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                                  Kamzo19
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                                  Well it can be an interpretation of the quranic passages where you see that.

                                  Peace,

                                  Kamzo

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                                    savage_carrot
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                                    Storied also talk about "serpent gods", interesting when compared to "jinns" that mean "serpent" in Old Arabic....
                                    I've always found this interesting, the whole helix/quezacoatel parallels. I also recall something about plasma energy maybe? that oscillates in a snakey way back in the day during discussions on jinn, Musa's staff etc.

                                    peace

                                    it's actually quetzalcoatl, wonder how it's pronounced P

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                                      Kamzo19
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                                      Well, I think this article may help

                                      http//www.sophiaperennis.com/uncategorized/ufos-mass-mind-control-and-the-awliya-al-shaytan-by-charles-upton-an-update-of-cracks-in-the-great-wall-ufos-and-traditional-metaphysics-sophia-perennis-2005/

                                      Peace.

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                                        johan
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                                        Well, I think this article may help

                                        http//www.sophiaperennis.com/uncategorized/ufos-mass-mind-control-and-the-awliya-al-shaytan-by-charles-upton-an-update-of-cracks-in-the-great-wall-ufos-and-traditional-metaphysics-sophia-perennis-2005/

                                        Peace.

                                        Interesting read, though I kind of had my alarms go wild when hearing about The Dajjal.
                                        IMO there is a reason why Dajjal is never mentioned in the Quran, and the reason is that it's counter productive to the idea of God unveiling amongst us. This contradicts the Quran mentioning the descent of God from heaven accompanied by 8 angles.
                                        As long as we have this prejudice of God being The Dajjal/Anti Christ, we will always end up seeking to kill this God or His messengers etc.etc. or at least to avoid Him etc.etc. the way the Pharaoh tried to kill Moses AS, and those who tried to kill Jesus AS.

                                        IMO, there are scriptures that severs the connection between the world of the seen and the world of the unseen ('9oib) through demonizing, stigmatization and blurring the meaning of terms such as sakar, kaahin, etc into si7r(black magic), shirk(paganism?) etc.etc.
                                        Quran is not one of those scriptures. OTOH, Quran's seeks to reestablish the severed connection. When mentioning the terms like sakar, kaahin, etc as if it tries to stimulate a sense of interest to the world of mystery. A world which can inspire and quench the thirst for knowledge of the unknown.

                                        would like to write more but haven't got the time yet, inshaAllah when time allows..

                                        wallahua3lam

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                                          Kamzo19
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                                          Quran's seeks to reestablish the severed connection. When mentioning the terms like sakar, kaahin, etc as if it tries to stimulate a sense of interest to the world of mystery. A world which can inspire and quench the thirst for knowledge of the unknown.

                                          Salaam,

                                          I agree with that, skepticism is in my opinion a mean to stay in a cumfortable ideological position.
                                          The exploration and investigation of the basics of ufology and spiritualism gives you an idea of what to expect. Please, note that I wrote exploration and investigation, not the reading of a single Wikipedia page or the googling of the word "UFO", for example, and the reading or the first article that may be a hoaxed-sh** written by a fool wearing a t-shirt printed with "no future" and "death to Illuminatis" without any sense of reason and rationality, and not able to think in a logical way.

                                          The problem with skepticism, is that most oftenly, the skeptic stops his pseudo investigation (because he's already convinced that he's right in thinking that he can explain everything) at the first hoax he encounters. In fact, he's not most oftenly in research of the truth behind the paranormal he hears about, but he's in research of the hoax that will give him the occasion to prove he's right. It's a kind of traditional religion. All that contradicts their value is a hoax, or is wrong. I qualify it as an egotistic way of thinking, very arrogant, because it starts with the incredibly arrogant postulate "We can explain everything with reason".

                                          And if somebody disagrees, let him try to explain the faith of a Quranist, who didn't know about the miracle of code 19; and we'll see how rationally he can explain his belief in Quran being the word of God.

                                          peace.

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