Inheritance according to Qur?an
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Sorry Noon, serious mistake----here in all three examples the word is Verb not a noun. In inheritance it is Noun with tanween, signifying solitary son-a son.
We can explore addition of tanween to the script and when. Even if noun male child/son main question is
IF kana/he is (male) to person walad/son (male child) = TRUE for cases > 1?
Does presence of a son trigger 1/6 to parent, 1/4 to husband, 1/8 to wife?
Like asking does deceased have son, yes/no? Or asking does deceased have brother, yes/no?
We have to choose the best meaning otherwise the calculations do not work.
Equation is given by the words that denote gender, not ecessarily dauther and son. It is the basic key in distribution.
It's clearly explained when they are mixed to use 21 ratio...
4176 AND IF kn/they were ikh'watun siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine) clarifies The God to you lest you stray and The God in every a thing Knowing
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IF kana/he is (male) to person walad/son (male child) = TRUE for cases > 1?
Does presence of a son trigger 1/6 to parent, 1/4 to husband, 1/8 to wife?
Son is the Noun of Verb Kana and matches the number and gender of verb. And Lahu relates to the predicate of Kana. This is conditional clause, which is describing a ground situation. Its apodosis clause is previous sentence. Thereat 1/6--it is Subject of sentence--is for each of the Parents. Similar is the condition clause for determined shares of spouses, there 1/8 is the Subject of sentence.
The share of solitary son is not determined by Allah the Exalted. The left over in such case is left to the discretion and justice of dying man. -
We obviously cannot use son above; son is ...
930 and said the Jews Uzair son The God and said al-nasara the Messiah son The God
It needs to be kept in mind that each word of the vocabulary of Qur'aan is unique and un-substitutable pearl embedded at its place of occurrence in the text.
If you take this word and place it in 411 the whole sentence will be spoiled and shall become incorrect in all respects. Please note that it is used in Possessive Phrase and always becomes definite.
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We have to choose the best meaning otherwise the calculations do not work.
Your approach and perhaps all others who have been trying to make the total equal 1 forgets that the total facts are not in front of them.
The issue is not hypothetical but an happening in real life. Data indicated in the Bequest is not before you. The mandatory prioritized shares are only known to you. The rest of the inheritance is in the Bequest.
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Son is the Noun of Verb Kana and matches the number and gender of verb. And Lahu relates to the predicate of Kana. This is conditional clause, which is describing a ground situation. Its apodosis clause is previous sentence. Thereat 1/6--it is Subject of sentence--is for each of the Parents. Similar is the condition clause for determined shares of spouses, there 1/8 is the Subject of sentence.
The share of solitary son is not determined by Allah the Exalted. The left over in such case is left to the discretion and justice of dying man.Yes; the question is if the statement is TRUE for 2 sons, 3 sons, 10 sons, etc.?
IF kana/(he is) shapes gender of walad IF male child/son then 1/6 to parent.
Your approach and perhaps all others who have been trying to make the total equal 1 forgets that the total facts are not in front of them.
The issue is not hypothetical but an happening in real life. Data indicated in the Bequest is not before you. The mandatory prioritized shares are only known to you. The rest of the inheritance is in the Bequest.
If we had the total facts, a will etc.,no need to consult inheritance verses to arbitrate.
They are to be applied when person died, no will, nothing! That is reality for majority. -
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Your approach and perhaps all others who have been trying to make the total equal 1 forgets that the total facts are not in front of them.
The issue is not hypothetical but an happening in real life. Data indicated in the Bequest is not before you. The mandatory prioritized shares are only known to you. The rest of the inheritance is in the Bequest.
Yes; the question is if the statement is TRUE for 2 sons, 3 sons, 10 sons, etc.?
IF kana/(he is) shapes gender of walad IF male child/son then 1/6 to parent.
If we had the total facts, a will etc.,no need to consult inheritance verses to arbitrate.
They are to be applied when person died, no will, nothing! That is reality for majority.It is not you and me to consult the Shares determined and allocated to certain ones by Allah the Exalted. It is the dying person to know the "out of bound" areas of his wealth and decide only about that wealth which is left to his discretion for distribution.
Those who do what you stated in red are the violators of the command of Allah the Exalted. They accept Qur'aan partially. We are not concerned with them. It is incumbent upon the Muttaqeen.
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It is not you and me to consult the Shares determined and allocated to certain ones by Allah the Exalted. It is the dying person to know the "out of bound" areas of his wealth and decide only about that wealth which is left to his discretion for distribution.
Those who do what you stated in red are the violators of the command of Allah the Exalted. They accept Qur'aan partially. We are not concerned with them. It is incumbent upon the Muttaqeen.
OK what's the whole point of inheritance verses; what do we do with his $4 million property?
A man died, no will, and left three small children 1 son, 2 daughters
A man died, no will, and left three small siblings 1 brother, 2 sisters
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OK what's the whole point of inheritance verses; what do we do with his $4 million property?
A man died, no will, and left three small children 1 son, 2 daughters
Two thrid of $ 4 million property shall be reserved for orphans-2 daughters-1 son who will acquire it on reaching strengthen maturity. The near blood men of deceased enjoying repute will maintain the property of orphans, and decide about the remaining 1/3rd.
Allah the Exalted has taken care of a situation where a person dies all of a sudden. Please see the article I have coloured and bolded OR appearing between Bequest and Outstanding business obligation of the deceased.
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Two thrid of $ 4 million property shall be reserved for orphans-2 daughters-1 son who will acquire it on reaching strengthen maturity. The near blood men of deceased enjoying repute will maintain the property of orphans, and decide about the remaining 1/3rd.
Contradiction; you are giving away $1.33 million of their money to others?
What if there are no near blood relatives? Even if there were that's stealing!Now do the other example same amount 1 brother, 2 sisters?
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Contradiction; you are giving away $1.33 million of their money to others?
What if there are no near blood relatives? Even if there were that's stealing!Now do the other example same amount 1 brother, 2 sisters?
I have not given. Allah the Exalted is so allowing. Please see the red part of just quoted Ayah. As regards stealing, Allah the Exalted knows it---that is why He the Exalted has mentioned such people in other Ayah mentioned in the Article and the effect of all such foul plays with the property of orphans. No other blood relatives does not mean that the whole society does not exist for this dead man. That is why no specific person is nominated to maintain the property--just general advice what they can consume out of the inheritance.
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I have not given. Allah the Exalted is so allowing. Please see the red part of just quoted Ayah. As regards stealing, Allah the Exalted knows it---that is why He the Exalted has mentioned such people in other Ayah mentioned in the Article and the effect of all such foul plays with the property of orphans. No other blood relatives does not mean that the whole society does not exist for this dead man. That is why no specific person is nominated to maintain the property--just general advice what they can consume out of the inheritance.
What does I have not given mean? If you don't know it's OK to say so. Here use this
1 brother, 2 sisters (or any mixed siblings)
4176 AND IF kn/they were ikh'watun siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine)Mazhar -- take the same example as before for little kids; what if they were adults?
You suggesting take their $1.33 million away and give it to whom exactly strangers?
Simply do what the book says 1 son, 2 daughters (or any mixed children)
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine) -
You suggesting take their $1.33 million away and give it to whom exactly strangers?
It is not me suggesting this. Allah the Exalted is asking the dying person to decide about it. If he could not decide it because of sudden death, others have to decide about it.
The discourse about the distribution of inheritance begins with the Bequest made mandatory for the dying person. What was the point in making it compulsory for Muttaqeen if Allah the Exalted had to decide about the hundred percent distribution of wealth? -
It is not me suggesting this. Allah the Exalted is asking the dying person to decide about it. If he could not decide it because of sudden death, others have to decide about it.
The discourse about the distribution of inheritance begins with the Bequest made mandatory for the dying person. What was the point in making it compulsory for Muttaqeen if Allah the Exalted had to decide about the hundred percent distribution of wealth?Mazhar --
It's written and decided; does not say 2/3 for mixed children/siblings anywhere?
It is 21 ratio when mixed; how many times do I have to post the same verses?411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
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It's you who is wrongly allocating be they old or young 2/3 for all mixed cases
1 son, 1 daughter
2 sons, 2 daughters
3 sons, 3 daughtersRead carefully, 2/3 is only when nisa are alone, no sons hence they get the whole 2/3...
411 so if kunna/are (feminine plural) nisa above two (feminine) falahunna so to them (feminine plural) 2/3
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Likewise, 1/2 for the daughter, no sons; she gets the whole half
411 and if knat/is (feminine singular) one so for her the half
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It is not me suggesting this. Allah the Exalted is asking the dying person to decide about it. If he could not decide it because of sudden death, others have to decide about it.
The discourse about the distribution of inheritance begins with the Bequest made mandatory for the dying person. What was the point in making it compulsory for Muttaqeen if Allah the Exalted had to decide about the hundred percent distribution of wealth?Mazhar -- that is the whole point, it does not say 2/3 for mixed children or siblings anywhere?
It's always 21 ratio for mixed siblings; how many times does one have to post the same verses?
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
4176 AND IF kn/they were ikh'watun siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine)It is plural and includes multiple progenies inclusive of feminines and males. Nowhere, we find subsequently that Allah the Exalted has appointed shares for . But it is not like that. The shares of are determined by the mention of 3 daughters, two daughters, and one daugther sequence. And in case of combined progenies no share is described since the basic unit of inheritance are the feminines--- share of two feminine shall be given to a male.
There cannot be an equation of shares netween feminine and masculine when there is only a daughter or only a son. Such situations are seperately dealt.
The point that the whole scheme revolves around daughters, is also evident from the last information where is not used but only sons
The Parents and the Sons of you people, You know not with certainty who of them are more nearer for you, nearer in context of beneficent .
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It is plural and includes multiple progenies inclusive of feminines and males. Nowhere, we find subsequently that Allah the Exalted has appointed shares for . But it is not like that. The shares of are determined by the mention of 3 daughters, two daughters, and one daugther sequence. And in case of combined progenies no share is described since the basic unit of inheritance are the feminines--- share of two feminine shall be given to a male.
There cannot be an equation of shares netween feminine and masculine when there is only a daughter or only a son. Such situations are seperately dealt.
What you mean separately dealt with, how you going apply 4176?
The equation or 21 ratio covers all mixed children and siblings combinations.
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
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1 son, 1 daughter (2/3, 1/3 or m = 2f)
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What you mean separately dealt with, how you going apply 4176?
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With regard to progeny, we are left with only a situation where the deceased is leaving behind the solitary Son. In this situation, Allah the Exalted has not made the Son as preferential. Instead, the parents and spouse of the dying person are declared preferential and their share is mandatory prioritized leaving the allocation for the living Son at the discretion of the dying person. Allah the Exalted has not prescribed the share for a solitary living son of the deceased.
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In case of a solitary son as heir, the living father and mother each get straight away 1/6th out of that inheritance which the deceased has left behind. The mandatory prioritized share of Wife is 1/8th out of the inheritance. In such cases, the Inheritance is divided into twenty-four parts; eleven out of twenty-four parts straight going to father, mother and the Widow, if they all are surviving, otherwise their respective share will also obviously go to the discretion of the dying person to allocate it to the next relatively near blood relation. Near Blood relation is referred by the relationship of Wombs, it thus includes grandfather, grandmother and grand-progeny.
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What you mean separately dealt with, how you going apply 4176?
It is at
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With regard to progeny, we are left with only a situation where the deceased is leaving behind the solitary Son. In this situation, Allah the Exalted has not made the Son as preferential. Instead, the parents and spouse of the dying person are declared preferential and their share is mandatory prioritized leaving the allocation for the living Son at the discretion of the dying person. Allah the Exalted has not prescribed the share for a solitary living son of the deceased.
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In case of a solitary son as heir, the living father and mother each get straight away 1/6th out of that inheritance which the deceased has left behind. The mandatory prioritized share of Wife is 1/8th out of the inheritance. In such cases, the Inheritance is divided into twenty-four parts; eleven out of twenty-four parts straight going to father, mother and the Widow, if they all are surviving, otherwise their respective share will also obviously go to the discretion of the dying person to allocate it to the next relatively near blood relation. Near Blood relation is referred by the relationship of Wombs, it thus includes grandfather, grandmother and grand-progeny.
No need to write so much; I asked to apply 4176 kalala no child 1 brother, 1 sister?
4176 ... so to the male like share the two (feminine)
Your answer should be simple 2/3 brother, 1/3 sister or m=2f
Suggest applying to EVERY CASE test consistency; like program three logic gates...
IF, so/ELSE IF, AND IF
Input inheritors, output according to Qur'an!
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His basic premises, what to read afterwards 500 pages, is patently incorrect and far away from Qur'aan. Son concept is heavily controlling his mind.
He begins with Status 1 as Son, Qur'aan gives status 1 to women.
Daughter (s) are direct beneficiary by the shares determined by Allah the Exalted.
One Son has nowhere been given direct share by Allah the Exalted.
He forgets about the Bequest part which is fundamental to Inheritance division.
He ignores difference between and to determine who is primary and secondary.