Inheritance according to Qur?an
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His basic premises, what to read afterwards 500 pages, is patently incorrect and far away from Qur'aan. Son concept is heavily controlling his mind.
He begins with Status 1 as Son, Qur'aan gives status 1 to women.
Daughter (s) are direct beneficiary by the shares determined by Allah the Exalted.
One Son has nowhere been given direct share by Allah the Exalted.
He forgets about the Bequest part which is fundamental to Inheritance division.
He ignores difference between and to determine who is primary and secondary.
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Pleace look at this book about this matter
http//www.quraniclesson.com/download.php?fid=1&ext=pdf&fn=Division%20of%20Inheritance%202nd%20Edition.pdf
You keep spamming the forum with same link to stupid book by the clueless.
Have you noticed what was not mentioned or prescribed in 411 and 412 which could also be a ground reality, leaving a question for the listeners to enquire about it?
The verses are clear instructions to be applied in the real world and when someone asks to show them, it does little to answer with questions and perpetual expounding -- simply show distributions; it's not complex.
4176 they seek your ruling say The God gives you a ruling in al-kalalah if person died is not to person child/born...
No children; we know only inheritors to enter the verse are mother and siblings. Therefore...
1 sister, mother 1 - 1/2 sister = 1/2 mother
2 sisters, mother 1 - 2/3 sisters, 1/3 each = 1/3 mother
3+ sisters, mother unstated distribute evenly1+ sisters, 1+ brothers 21 ratio male to female
mother, 1+ brothers 1 - 1/6 mother = 5/6 brothers
mother, 1+ sisters, 1+ brothers 1 - 1/6 mother = 5/6 siblings 21 ratio male to female
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What does it mean?
Deceased left no crown/head of house 4176 al-kallah is father-less spouse-less.
Mathematical proof
1 = father (variable) + siblings mixed 21 ratio male to female
1 = y + 2x + x
1 = y + 3x (no solution without involving negative numbers (-2=y, 1=x))1/2 sister + 1/4 wife = 3/4 to little
2/3 sisters + 1/2 husband = 1 + 1/6 too muchLikewise more contradictions with other computations with siblings and father/spouse.
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Deceased left no crown/head of house 4176 al-kallah is father-less spouse-less.
I infer from above---is it correct
You mean his father is not living at the time of his death-he is already dead. What about mother?
And spouse-less, you mean his/her spouse is not surviving at the time of his/her death.
What about a son? He be having a surviving son or might have died without a son.
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I infer from above---is it correct
You mean his father is not living at the time of his death-he is already dead. What about mother?
Correct, deceased did not have a father.
Mother may be alive since 411 IF ikh'wat mother =1/6And spouse-less, you mean his/her spouse is not surviving at the time of his/her death.
Correct, deceased did not have a spouse.
What about a son? He be having a surviving son or might have died without a son.
Of course there is the possibility of kalalah with son/child otherwise no need to state if not to person child if kalalah is childless as most translators wrongly interpret.
Kalalah no child use 4176
4176 they seek your ruling say The God gives you a ruling in al-kalalah (fatherless spouseless) if person died is not to person waladun/childKalalah with son use 412 otherwise there is confusion what to give 1 sister 1/2 or 1/6
412... and if kna is a man inherited kallatan (fatherless spouseless) or woman and has brother or sister so to each one from them the sixth so if kn they were greater from that so they partners in the third
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I infer from above---is it correct
You mean his father is not living at the time of his death-he is already dead. What about mother?
Correct, deceased did not have a father.
Mother may be alive since 411 IF ikh'wat mother =1/6So alternate state could be that Father survives while the Mother is dead.
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So alternate state could be that Father survives while the Mother is dead.
All inheritors can be present or not present; with presence of father/spouse siblings get nothing.
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed 411) = 2/3 father; siblings = 0
1 - 1/6 mother (fixed 411) = 5/6 brother/siblings mixed
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Where is this red part written?
411 ... so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed/known) = 2/3 father (variable/unknown)
Logical deduction AND IF OR NOT ELSE (used to build supercomputers) differentiates the human from most creatures.
Peace!
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411 ... so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed/known) = 2/3 father (variable/unknown)
Logical deduction AND IF OR NOT ELSE (used to build supercomputers) differentiates the human from most creatures.
Peace!
In the interpretation of law, and particularly in matters of money/wealth it is not permitted that the reader starts inserting new law in the name of logical deductions.
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411 ... so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed/known) = 2/3 father (variable/unknown)
Logical deduction AND IF OR NOT ELSE (used to build supercomputers) differentiates the human from most creatures.
Peace!
What will be the case if the diceased is a woma?
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What will be the case if the diceased is a woma?
The same; why ask ? are not women included in the human category or want discuss nuances of Arabic?
411 ... so to his mother the third
3114 and We enjoined the human to his parents carried him his mother weakness upon infirmity and his separation in two years that be thankful to Me and to your parents to Me the destiny
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The same; why ask ? are not women included in the human category or want discuss nuances of Arabic?
411 ... so to his mother the third
3114 and We enjoined the human to his parents carried him his mother weakness upon infirmity and his separation in two years that be thankful to Me and to your parents to Me the destiny
is dual active participle signifying The Father and the Mother. Parents being plural in english is perhaps not suitable translation particularly because it also denotes to act as parent. When genders are specified in text then they refer only to that gender not interchangeably.
I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
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I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
Peace Mazhar, your article starts off well then turns into an illogical hairball with multiple errors started by assigning 2/3 to mixed children/siblings ignors clear instructions 2/3 is to females only, lacks comprehension of basic ELSE IF AND IF switch to different case and gives only partial distributions with remainder unaccounted.
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/34176... ELSE IF they were (feminine) two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) the third dual (2/3)
4176... AND IF they were siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine) -
Thank you. You have clarified it for me. This is what I understood. All I need to do now is irrefutably clarify when and under what conditions this applies.
These are all conditions 1/6 or 1/3 to siblings applies (what differentiates sister in 412 and 4176).
kalalah (fatherless spouseless, left no crown/head of household) has son
412 .. so if kana/is (masculine) to you walad/offspring (i.e. if to person male child/born/son) so to them the eight from what you left from after a will you made in it or judgment (continue case if son...)
and if is a man inherited kalalah (fatherless spouseless) or woman
and has brother or sister so to each one from them the sixth
so if they were greater from that so they partners in the third1 - 1/6 sister/brother = 5/6 son/s
1 - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 2/3 son/s1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 sister/brother = 2/3 son/s
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 1/2 son/s1 - 1/6 sister/brother = 5/6 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 5/6 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 sister/brother = 2/3 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 1/2 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female -
Quote from Mazhar on July 30, 2012, 020949 PM
I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
Peace Mazhar, your article starts off well then turns into an illogical hairball with multiple errors started by assigning 2/3 to mixed children/siblings ignors clear instructions 2/3 is to females only, lacks comprehension of basic ELSE IF AND IF switch to different case and gives only partial distributions with remainder unaccounted.411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/3Sorry Noon,
What is stuck up in mind is to make the total equal to 1, that is, the whole inheritance.
Thereby, you are not listening and keep on ignoring the basic provisions of law for distribution of inheritance. What you are making hundered percent is just superfluous mathematics not the portions assigned by Allah the Exalted or the Dying Man.The share is based on feminine gender, not daughter or sister and son or brother,. It is not equatining of persons belonging to different gender. First take the Subject of Sentence and then read its predicate. You read predicate first and the subject later on as was done by majority of translators showing as if they did not know even the basics of Arabic grammar and sentence structuring.
The base for distribution is feminine shares which will bring in the brother in total that can go to three feminine shares.
The other base for distribution is single son or absence of single son.What is the share for unknown "someone" who is still in the womb of a wife?
What will be the fate of "someone" unknown in the womb of a wife who was alienated-pronounced suspension of Matrimonial Bond a day before his death? -
Sorry Noon,
What is stuck up in mind is to make the total equal to 1, that is, the whole inheritance.
Thereby, you are not listening and keep on ignoring the basic provisions of law for distribution of inheritance. What you are making hundered percent is just superfluous mathematics not the portions assigned by Allah the Exalted or the Dying Man.No, it is you who is not listening or reading correctly making up things that is nowhere stated in Qur'an.
By your logic if only heirs parents; you would give mother 1/3 tell father to take a hike 2/3 unaccounted.411 so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable)
The share is based on feminine gender, not daughter or sister and son or brother,. It is not equatining of persons belonging to different gender. First take the Subject of Sentence and then read its predicate. You read predicate first and the subject later on as was done by majority of translators showing as if they did not know even the basics of Arabic grammar and sentence structuring.
The base for distribution is feminine shares which will bring in the brother in total that can go to three feminine shares.
The other base for distribution is single son or absence of single son.Again a mathematical illogical hairball; obey the explicit instructions pay attention to switch case ELSE IF AND IF!
In addition you always have to give 2/3 to 3+ daughters or 1/2 to 1 daughter; therefore if you insist on mixing...1 - 1/2 one daughter = 1/2 ten sons (1/20 each) is illogical
1 - 2/3 three daughters = 1/3 ten sons (1/30 each) is illogicalWhat is the share for unknown "someone" who is still in the womb of a wife?
What will be the fate of "someone" unknown in the womb of a wife who was alienated-pronounced suspension of Matrimonial Bond a day before his death?Again, I've posted for you and asked you numerous times to answer the basic question which you consistently avoid and come back with more perpetual questions and tireless expounding of grammar of clear simple verses. Now are you going to answer the question how you assign 2/3 to both males and females when it's explicit that 2/3 goes only to females?
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/34176... ELSE IF they were (feminine) two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) the third dual (2/3)
4176... AND IF they were siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine)As to your question of a pregnant wife (man dies leaves no will), distribute the same 100% to all inheritors according to Qur'an whether she was pregnant or not pregnant, rich or poor, etc., and they the inheritors (not you) are responsible for their care after the distribution depending on their situation.
These are examples which I stated to you numerous times if you are going to comment on inheritance verses you need to go through all combinations and your math has to be consistent otherwise you contradict and therefore it is not Qur'an!
100% wife, sibling/s 0 not kalalah case
1 - 1/4 wife = 3/4 mother/father
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter, 1/2 always)= 1/2 wife
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters, 2/9 each) = 1/3 wife1 - 1/4 wife = 3/4 (3/8 mother + 3/8 father)
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter) = 1/2 (1/4 wife + 1/4 mother/father)
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters) = 1/3 (1/6 wife + 1/6 mother/father)1 - 1/6 mother/father - 1/8 wife = 17/24 son/s
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 father - 1/8 wife = 13/24 son/s1 - 1/8 wife = 7/8 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter) = 1/2 (1/6 wife + 1/6 mother + 1/6 father)
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters) = 1/3 (1/9 wife + 1/9 mother + 1/9 father)1 - 1/6 mother/father - 1/8 wife = 17/24 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 father - 1/8 wife = 13/24 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female -
No, it is you who is not listening or reading correctly making up things that is nowhere stated in Qur'an.
By your logic if only heirs parents; you would give mother 1/3 tell father to take a hike 2/3 unaccounted.411 so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable)
You assign 2/3 to father of a deceased man who had no son to inherit him and instead his Father and Mother are called his Waris. This is because Allah the Exalted has assigned only for mother the 1/3 in this case.
Who has assigned 2/3 to father?
Where is it said that left over will be for such and such person?
Variable means liable to change especially suddenly and unpredictably. Who will decide the change this 2/3?