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    good_logic
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    Peace Abdul-Hadi.

    Remembering GOD is thanking HIM for providing the food for us.

    " Bismi allah" , thank you GOD, ... The intention is to remember it is Allah who provides.

    It is one of many ways to remember Allah. Apart from that it is not specified how. It doesnot really matter how you remember as long as you do.
    Peace.

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      Peace everyone,

      It's been a while since I read some articles on the site and after a discussion with my wife, I stumbled upon the Free-Minds.org article on dietary prohibitions in Islam (http//www.free-minds.org/dietary-prohibitions). In this article, I was disturbed by the following excerpt

      "Slaughtering an animal without mentioning God?s name at the time of slaughter makes the animal forbidden. This is to acknowledge God?s gift of the livestock to the Children of Adam which have been highlighted in many verses and for which the entire Pilgrimage is designed (see 222."

      Salaam Araaf,

      This may help you understand inshaAllah.

      May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
      mmKhan

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        mmkhan
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        Peace Abdul-Hadi.

        Remembering GOD is thanking HIM for providing the food for us.

        " Bismi allah" , thank you GOD, ... The intention is to remember it is Allah who provides.

        It is one of many ways to remember Allah. Apart from that it is not specified how. It doesnot really matter how you remember as long as you do.
        Peace.

        Salaam brother Good Logic,

        BTW, Allah is not the NAME of Allah. Please check the link in my above post.

        May Allah bless you.
        mmKhan

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          good_logic
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          Peace mmkhan.
          I have not implied that "Allah" is a name.

          I have said " In the name of Allah" . When you start a chapter What do you say?

          There is a difference.
          Peace.

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            Peace mmkhan.
            I have not implied that "Allah" is a name.

            I have said " In the name of Allah" . When you start a chapter What do you say?

            There is a difference.
            Peace.

            Peace brother,

            Nice that you say "In the name of Allah", but do you say only this or do you take His name(s) also?

            BismiAllah does not mean in the name of Allah, so I say, as it is written.

            mmKhan

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              good_logic
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              Peace mmkhan.

              To GOD belongs all the good names.

              How about " Bismi allah the Provider, or the Giver or..." Or just " Thank you GOD for your food....

              Peace.

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                mmkhan
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                Peace mmkhan.

                To GOD belongs all the good names.

                How about " Bismi allah the Provider, or the Giver or..." Or just " Thank you GOD for your food....

                Peace.

                Peace brother,

                I always refrain myself from saying or doing something on my own, until n unless I hold at least one aayat on the same. I don't know brother, how you got to that?

                I think you did not read the link in my previous post. Please check it and try to understand the points made, it worth reading inshaAllah.

                May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                mmKhan

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace mmkhan.

                  I read your links.

                  GOD book is fully detailed. If there was anything else prohibited He would have added it in .

                  You are right however in your detail study that GOD is saying what is good for us to eat.

                  Peace.

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                    mmkhan
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                    Peace Good Logic,

                    Thank you for going through my thread and thanks for your input.

                    May Allah bless you,
                    mmKhan

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace mmkhan.

                      Thank you as well.

                      I found the summary in Sura 16 helped me a lot

                      Have a look and see what you think ( All the context is there.)

                      Peace.

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                        farida
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                        Peace everyone,

                        It's been a while since I read some articles on the site and after a discussion with my wife, I stumbled upon the Free-Minds.org article on dietary prohibitions in Islam (http//www.free-minds.org/dietary-prohibitions). In this article, I was disturbed by the following excerpt

                        "Slaughtering an animal without mentioning God?s name at the time of slaughter makes the animal forbidden. This is to acknowledge God?s gift of the livestock to the Children of Adam which have been highlighted in many verses and for which the entire Pilgrimage is designed (see 222."

                        I am looking forward to your thoughts on this.

                        Peace be with you,

                        Araaf

                        Salaam
                        See this video to understand significance of mentioning God's name;
                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2kV3gLons4&feature=relmfu
                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3MbgL6Jboc&feature=endscreen&NR=1
                        Peace

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                          Araaf
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                          Hi everyone,

                          Thanks for your answers and views so far. If everyone agrees that mentioning God's name during slaughter is not an absolute requirement for meat to be lawful, can't this excerpt be removed from this article?

                          Warm regards,

                          Araaf

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                            mmkhan
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                            Hi everyone,

                            Thanks for your answers and views so far. If everyone agrees that mentioning God's name during slaughter is not an absolute requirement for meat to be lawful, can't this excerpt be removed from this article?

                            Warm regards,

                            Araaf

                            Salaam and hello,

                            I don't agree with it. Please take a look at reply#4 of this thread and follow the link.

                            mmKhan

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                              Abdul-Hadi
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                              Greetings and Peace, all group

                              Support for "remember" at slaughter versus "mention" at slaughter.

                              6119 And why should you not eat that on which the name of GOD has been mentioned , when He has fully detailed to you what has been made unlawful; except what you are forced to? Many misguide by their desires without knowledge; your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors.

                              82 The believers are those whom, when GOD is mentioned , their hearts reverence; and when His revelations are recited to them, it increases their faith; and they put their trust in their Lord.

                              3135 And those who, if they commit lewdness, or wrong themselves, they remember GOD and seek forgiveness for their sins. And who can forgive the sins except GOD? And they do not persist in what they have done while they know.

                              2236 And the plump livestock, We have made them for you to be among the symbols of GOD; you will have benefit in them. So mention the name of GOD upon them in succession; then, once their sides have become still, you may eat from them and feed with them the poor and the needy. It was thus that We have made them in service to you, that you may be thankful.

                              774 "And remember that He made you successors after 'Aad, and He established you in the land so that you make palaces on its plains, and you carve homes in the mountains. So remember the grace of GOD, and do not roam the earth as corrupters."

                              2228 So that they may witness benefits for themselves, and mention the name of GOD in the appointed days over what He has provided for them of the animal livestock. So eat from it and feed the needy and the poor.

                              1967 Does man not remember that We created him before, when he was not a thing?

                              7205 And remember your Lord within yourself, in humility and in reverence; and without loudness in words, during the morning and the evening. And do not be of the careless ones.

                              ALLAH knows best.

                              peace

                              ~Abdul-Hadi

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                                Araaf
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                                Salaam and hello,

                                I don't agree with it. Please take a look at reply#4 of this thread and follow the link.

                                mmKhan

                                Hi mmKhan,

                                I read your article, but since the article doesn't mention slaughter anywhere, it still leaves me wondering regarding my question. Are you saying ritual slaughter is a requirement or not?

                                Peace brother,

                                Araaf

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                                  mmkhan
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                                  Hi mmKhan,

                                  I read your article, but since the article doesn't mention slaughter anywhere, it still leaves me wondering regarding my question. Are you saying ritual slaughter is a requirement or not?

                                  Peace brother,

                                  Araaf

                                  Salaam and hello brother,

                                  When Allah did not mention of slaughtering then it is not required, I should say, we have to remember Allah's name while killing the animal for food. No ritual slaughter is required. Instead better to cut off animals head in one shot to avoid torturing that poor animal, so that the animal should not feel pain.

                                  We have to understand that Allah made them to feed us not to torture them.

                                  Brother please check here for more details on my understanding on food .

                                  May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                                  mmKhan

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