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Meaning of Word Rabb ?

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    Zulf
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    Just wanted to share my non-scholarly idea.

    If it, like you say, comes from the word 'rabba' with the meaning of 'make something grow', then I think it is a very logical and wonderful thing.

    I see it like Allah is the cause of our growing. By aligning with Allah's system, we will grow in all aspects. Allah is the nurturing source of our growth and life. We should not seek other sources for life and grow, because only Allah is capable of being a true and full Rabb with all that entails, including giving life and causing growth. Growth naturally here means all imaginable, positive development... mental, intellectual, spiritual, social, physical, emotional, you-name-it.

    Peace

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      noshirk
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      salaam
      @zulf
      I agree
      The educator meaning is also interesting. Take God as only Rabb would mean Take only God as teacher.
      When Firaoun said, i am your Highiest RAbb, that perhaps would mean that he was a great priest and he didn't want another teachings than his teachings (rememeber that his wife was a believer and he had another believer as minister).

      However not sure. Need help of a linguist to see if we can relates Rabb to Rabba in the meaning of tarbiya (education, making thing grow)
      Really don't now

      Salaam

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        NOMAD
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        Salaam

        Thanks Zulf, never tought that way.. sun

        Salaam

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          huruf
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          I have always understood rabb as sustainer, that without a single instant which everything would cease to exist. The sense of lord has always been secondary. May be because the first time a swa an explanation of the word that was the one I got. Fo0r me it makes sense. The meaning of education, growing, would be part of it.

          It is a name I am very fond of too.

          Salaam

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            mirjamnur
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            Just wanted to share my non-scholarly idea.

            If it, like you say, comes from the word 'rabba' with the meaning of 'make something grow', then I think it is a very logical and wonderful thing.

            I see it like Allah is the cause of our growing. By aligning with Allah's system, we will grow in all aspects. Allah is the nurturing source of our growth and life. We should not seek other sources for life and grow, because only Allah is capable of being a true and full Rabb with all that entails, including giving life and causing growth. Growth naturally here means all imaginable, positive development... mental, intellectual, spiritual, social, physical, emotional, you-name-it.

            Peace

            salam
            it is a very beautiful tought! see also much ,when not all the prayers in the Quran , starts with "rabbana" )

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              mmkhan
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              Salaam brother noshirk,

              Thanks you.

              I don't have much study on this subject. But I currently understand that Rabb means growth as you said. And I also understand that Riba and Rabb are from the same root and have same meaning.

              May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
              mmKhan

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                Salaam brother noshirk,

                Thanks you.

                I don't have much study on this subject. But I currently understand that Rabb means growth as you said. And I also understand that Riba and Rabb are from the same root and have same meaning.

                May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                mmKhan

                Thank you mmKhan

                In arabic, minister of Tarbiya is Minister of Education. Mourabbi is educator. Parents Yourabbouna their Children.
                Please note that, Rabb Ol Bayt, could also mean the Teacher of the Bayt.

                Do you think that GOD is Rabb of believers could means That GOD is teacher of Belivers while unbelievers and associators are who are taking others teachers.
                Linguisitically, is it possible ?
                we would be his pupils, collaborating between us, while he is the only teacher in wich we can put faith.

                I can't forget that ALLAHOU could also mean "No other than him".

                Peace

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                  Zulf
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                  It's cool to notice that the concepts of 'make to grow' and 'educate' is in essence one and the same.

                  And generally I think Arabic words generally cannot be directly translated into English 11 equivalents. In such translations, lots of meaning is often lost.

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                    Thank you mmKhan

                    In arabic, minister of Tarbiya is Minister of Education. Mourabbi is educator. Parents Yourabbouna their Children.
                    Please note that, Rabb Ol Bayt, could also mean the Teacher of the Bayt.

                    Salaam noshirk,

                    You are welcome brother.

                    I personally don't take any help or reference from outside to understand alQuraan. I believe that alQuraan used words in its own way. Like for example RAbb is used for growing of children and RIbaa refers to money. Both means growth but the usage or "A" and "I" shows us the difference what is it referring to.

                    This is how I understand.

                    Do you think that GOD is Rabb of believers could means That GOD is teacher of Belivers while unbelievers and associators are who are taking others teachers.
                    Linguisitically, is it possible ?
                    we would be his pupils, collaborating between us, while he is the only teacher in wich we can put faith.

                    I can't forget that ALLAHOU could also mean "No other than him".

                    Peace

                    For being teacher, I always remember 551-2

                    551
                    551 AlRahmaan

                    552
                    552 Has taught alQuraan

                    I very strongly believe that no one else can do this job . Taught is used because whatever alQuraan He taught till date is taught by AlRahmaan.

                    May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                    mmKhan

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                      It's cool to notice that the concepts of 'make to grow' and 'educate' is in essence one and the same.

                      And generally I think Arabic words generally cannot be directly translated into English 11 equivalents. In such translations, lots of meaning is often lost.

                      Salaam Zulf,

                      True, it is not possible to translate every word of alQuraan into English. In fact many many words of alQuraan does not have a literal meaning, but it has a concept. Once we understand that, it will be very easy to use that word in understanding other aayaats.

                      May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                      mmKhan

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                        I personally don't take any help or reference from outside to understand alQuraan. I believe that alQuraan used words in its own way. Like for example RAbb is used for growing of children and RIbaa refers to money. Both means growth but the usage or "A" and "I" shows us the difference what is it referring to.

                        Salaam brother

                        I mentionned verses in the opening post

                        for example
                        380 Nor does He order you that you take the angels and the prophets as (Arbab). Would He order you to rejection after you have submitted?

                        here teacher has better meaning than make you grow.

                        in fact, God is rabb of all people of the book.
                        Taking other rabb than god is a bad thing (associtation)
                        I found no verse, (i didnt see all the 800), that mention that God is rabb of unbelivers. So the growth can't be taken in the sense of physical growth

                        So, the sense "make grow", is to be taken in the spiritual sense, wich is spiritual growth, wich is education.

                        Peace

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                          mmkhan
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                          Salaam brother

                          I mentionned verses in the opening post

                          for example
                          380 Nor does He order you that you take the angels and the prophets as (Arbab). Would He order you to rejection after you have submitted?

                          here teacher has better meaning than make you grow.

                          in fact, God is rabb of all people of the book.
                          Taking other rabb than god is a bad thing (associtation)
                          I found no verse, (i didnt see all the 800), that mention that God is rabb of unbelivers. So the growth can't be taken in the sense of physical growth

                          So, the sense "make grow", is to be taken in the spiritual sense, wich is spiritual growth, wich is education.

                          Peace

                          Salaam brother,

                          Thank you for that aayat. Yes, it seems that growth does not suite in 380, as I said, I have no study on this subject.

                          BTW, I found this.

                          2049
                          2049 said, "So who is the Lord of you two, O Moses?"

                          2050
                          2050 He said, "Our Lord is He who gave each thing its form and then guided."

                          2051
                          2051 said, "Then what is the case of the former generations?"

                          2052
                          2052 said, "The knowledge thereof is with my Lord in a record. My Lord neither errs nor forgets."

                          2053
                          2053 who has made for you the earth as a bed and inserted therein for you roadways and sent down from the sky, rain and produced thereby categories of various plants.

                          This may help to understand what Rabb means! hmm

                          May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                          mmKhan

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