First E-Book
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Dear All...
Due to security reasons, Ziggurat's mailbox will no longer be active, and I will no longer be sending anything from that address.
If you receive ANY e-mail from Ziggurat, from this point onward, please IGNORE it completely.
In the meantime, I will set up a new mailbox and notify you when it's done.
Regards.
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Why so much secrecy?
Is it dangerous or what?
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I sent you a PM but I just mentioning again lol I would definitely love to read the e-book/research. please send me a copy.
salam!
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Dear All...
Due to security reasons, Ziggurat's mailbox will no longer be active, and I will no longer be sending anything from that address.
If you receive ANY e-mail from Ziggurat, from this point onward, please IGNORE it completely.
In the meantime, I will set up a new mailbox and notify you when it's done.
Regards.
Half way done , really loving it so far ).
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Salam Pazuzu
impressive disclosing work, which do make a lot of sense .. one thing is confusing to me.. there are some articles in free minds which i find convincing to a great extent talking about a place in jordan named Petra where we can find remenents of people of Lout, Aad and Thamoud (elephant status and great houses built within mountains and rocks).. Articles agree to the fact that events happened more or less in the same territory ....is there any explanation?
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Dear Hope.
Please consider the following points
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The official FM stance is that Muhammad lived in the Jordan - Palestine area. This is based on the erronuous idea that the Arabic language was invented by the Nabateans (the north Arabians). This is completely FALSE. The Nabateans, whose kingdom flourished during the first and second centuries A.D invented the cursive script which later developed into the modern Arabic script we see today. They did not invent the LANGUAGE. In Book 2, I will prove to you that the Arabic language existed many centuries before the Nabateans, and I will show you Arabic inscriptions in South Arabia, written in the Musnad script. The FM stance has confused the Arabic language with the Arabic alphabet. The Arabic language came from South Arabia, not the north, This is why the classical anthropologists grouped Arabic with the so-called "South Semitic Languages". Just because there are columns with elephant motifs carved in their crowns in Petra, doesn't mean that the People of the Elephant were there.
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The mountain-carved homes at Petra and the so-called "Mada'in Saleh" in North Saudi Arabia have abosulutely nothing to do with Thamud or Aad whatsoever. The people of Aad and Thamud are very ancient nations that lived before Abraham's time (before 1500 B.C). Petra and Madai'n Saleh are both Nabatean vestiges that were constructed in the first century A.D.
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The Quran tells us that Aad lived near the Ahqaf (region of giant sand dunes). If you look up Al-Ahqaf, you will see that it is the name the Arabs have known for thousands of years, which describes the sand dunes along the southern borders of the Rub-al-Khali desert. Please go look it up on any map.
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Thamudic = South Arabian culture. Please go look that up as well. Look up South Arabiab scripts, and you will get Zabur, Thamudic, Sheban, Himyari and even Ethiopian. This has nothing to do with Petra or the Nabateans whatsoever.
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The people of Lot were destroyed with a volcanic eruption that rained down rocks of cooked clay upon their town. There are NO VOLCANIC MOUNTAINS anywhere in the Jordan-Palestine area.
All of these points will be made clear in Book 2.
Peace...
P.S. If you have received Book 1, please do NOT PRINT it, as we will soon (in about 1 week) release a fully edited version with all errata fixed.
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Dear Hope.
Please consider the following points
[5) The people of Lot were destroyed with a volcanic eruption that rained down rocks of cooked clay upon their town. There are NO VOLCANIC MOUNTAINS anywhere in the Jordan-Palestine area.
Just want to check your info on volcanic activity in Jordan as I believe there is. Here are just a few sites which say otherwise
http//www.khammash.com/Web/Basalt_Bombs.htm
http//www.econ-environ-geol.org/pdf/Article-2.pdf
http//elearning.just.edu.jo/jjce/issues/paper.php?p=146.pdf
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Quote from the first link given by Zenith
"Volcanology" is interesting. It involves understanding the destructive, yet beautiful, powers of nature, and, in Jordan, it is about discovering the "fossilized results of such creative acts. Early humans might have seen, in action, some of the youngest volcanoes in Jordan. Such volcanoes were active as recent as 1.5 million years ago, and even 0.5 million years. While the older ones date back to as much as 18 million years, way before humans walked this land. To those who've seen, the smaller and younger volcanoes might have performed a brilliant light show.
There are many earth landscapes made up of volcanoes extinct ages ago. That does not concern I think the historical interval with which we are dealing. Extinct volcanoes are like dead persons, they do not make history.
Salaam
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Salam to Pazuzu and all,
Been a few months since i last read up on Pazuzu's postings, guess i missed the opportunity when Pazuzu was mailing out the E-book.
Can someone be kind enuff as to send me the E-book, it wud be much much appreciated. tks. My email add is [email protected].
once again...thank you in advance,rgds
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Salaam to all
As i understood brother pazuzu will correct some stuff in book so new verion will come inshaAllah,
Its good to know that day by day more people see the reality of Messangers geographycal origins.. I thank Allah that im living in the Time where we can use many tools to find truth.. and truth has alweyes been there.. YEs YEMN AND part of Oman are craddle of all messangers. Even not knowing nothing about islam i used to read ALQuran and alweyes get the senastion that every messanger mission was closer to each other, the people of nuh was succeded by people of Hud, and people of hud succeded by people of thamud, even AR-RAss and At-Tuba are told in Quran print form king complex in Saudi arabia, teels us Ar-rass, At-Tuba, hud people and Nuh people are from yemen, as long as Saba kingdom.. So even in Sunii version/tafseer they put many of messangers coming from Yemen.. its all very logical.. the problem starts when we are trying to make palestine a holy land, to make babylon in persia the crddle of ibrahim, and to make egypt the land of fake fira?won just to fullfill catolic plesures.. for me ibrahim comng from babylon is the same stupidity as wemen coming from man rib.. Allah knows best ..Salaam to all prand let people wake up , its a mission to all of us to spread truth in whatever language we can.Its time to awake.. jedi
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Peace upon you all dear brothers,
Pazuzu, Huruf, would kindly send the ebook for me on this address [email protected].
Thank you
siwto
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brickwall Sorry, Pazuzu, Huruf,..., there were an error on my email [email protected], would you kindly send the ebook on this updated email.
peace;
Siwto
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Dear Pazuzu Congratulations on your fine efforts and may God reward you. Please can you email me a copy of the corrected ebook to [email protected]
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Dear Pazuzu;
I am very thankful for the job & the logic you are using to bring more light in our deen, may ALLAH SW bless you and help you for the rest of your life in all your matters,
I must thank Lena here in the forum who helped me getting the document.
I swallowed the object once. It is well done but i stopped on only three points
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It seems to me that you enntered deeply in everything concerning the issue of Pharaoh/Moses but only flee on the most important point e.g. the partition of water. How it happened is not clear in your text. The HQ stated that Moses must " ibrib be asaaka albahara"...wheras you just talked of "Strike forth towards the bar with conviction." Is that your own traduction Pazuzu?
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Whenever you mention the Messengers you put (P). If you mean "peace up on them" like what is used with sunni, it happens that it is a form of glorification in my view but less than the one of traditionnalists, as for you all messengers are equal. On the other hand you seemly do not need any adduction when you mention The Creator ALLAH (?) >( ( -[ -[ brickwall. A single glorification formula like (SW) for Him worth something i think. What can you say for that dear Pazuzu?
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The spelling of the last prophet's name was dicussed by the brother Yuksel, here on FM, stating that the right one must be Muhammid. Obviously he was right for me, but i see you still using Muhammad. Would you help understand better brother.
Thanks a lot
Saam.
Siwto
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Peace, siwto.
- It seems to me that you enntered deeply in everything concerning the issue of Pharaoh/Moses but only flee on the most important point e.g. the partition of water. How it happened is not clear in your text. The HQ stated that Moses must " ibrib be asaaka albahara"...wheras you just talked of "Strike forth towards the bar with conviction." Is that your own traduction Pazuzu?
Yes.... I chose to translate "yadrib" or "idrib" as "to strike forth". The Quran used it in that context elsewhere, when it talked about those who strike forth in the land (yadribouna) to make their living, and those who strike forth and pass through enemy territory (they can shorten the Salat and do it in shifts, while others guard them). I didn't make it up.
The original meaning of the word "3asa" is to be hard in resolve, difficult to dissuade, firm in one's stance, defiant, etc... A hard stick is called "3asa" because it is tough and difficult to bend or break. Civil strife is called "3asyan" in Arabic, because it is about the population expressing their firm resistance to oppressive rule.
So the translation I have chosen is not so far-fetched. Allah told Moses to "strike forth" towards a body of water, with firm resolve and conviction (conviction that he would be saved from his oppressors, in the end).
The word "yamm" means a strong gushing stream of water. This means the event took place in an internal (inland) body of water, not in a sea seperating two continents! Even today, in the mountainous country of South Arabia, torrential rain can cause catastrophic flooding as the valleys quickly fill with water. The Israelites hiked a path in one of those valleys, and walked on an elevated ground with two giant streams of water on either side of them. That's how I imagine the scene to have been.
- Whenever you mention the Messengers you put (P). If you mean "peace up on them" like what is used with sunni, it happens that it is a form of glorification in my view but less than the one of traditionnalists, as for you all messengers are equal.
I don't see it as glorification. It's like when you say to a dead person RIP (Rest in Peace). It's no big deal to wish the messengers of Allah that they rest in peace. Also you have to remember that when we compiled the book, we had taken into consideration that many Suunis and Shias might read it. So you have to compromise by saying something that expresses respet for the man (Muhammad) who was chosen to carry Allah's final scripture. (I have been sent e-mails by fanatics criticizing me as being disrespectful to the "best of mankind" and a Zionist calling for Israel to invade Yemen).
A single glorification formula like (SW) for Him worth something i think. What can you say for that dear Pazuzu?
How about "The Almighty"?? Is that not enough? I believe we refered to him by that title quite a few times in the book.
- The spelling of the last prophet's name was dicussed by the brother Yuksel, here on FM, stating that the right one must be Muhammid. Obviously he was right for me, but i see you still using Muhammad. Would you help understand better brother.
I am not aware of that topic. I have not read any of Mr. Edip's writings.
Thank you for your comments, anyway.
To all those who have received the soft copy in one way or the other, please note that I will officially release a final version of Book 1 (with all spelling errata fixed), at the end of this month (in case you want to print it).