Are we going the wrong way ?
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Peace Amina,
I was just trying to highlight that to think thank you anyway.
mmKhan
Peace mmKhan,
If I was out of line I apologize. You do make people think, and I think that is awesome of you...I just remember how it was when I first became a member of the forum and everything I posted was hadith based...it was so unsettling to discover that I knew hardly anything of the Qur'an.
-Amina
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Peace mmKhan,
If I was out of line I apologize. You do make people think, and I think that is awesome of you...I just remember how it was when I first became a member of the forum and everything I posted was hadith based...it was so unsettling to discover that I knew hardly anything of the Qur'an.
-Amina
Peace Amina,
Thank you very much for your kind words and no need for apology handshake
I believe that it is better if each one of us do some kind of research before concluding anything from alQuraan. We all know how to check our grocery items before buying them, we also know very well how to check vegetables before bringing it home, we all know checking every thing is working in a house even if we are going to get it on rent, rest aside buying. But unfortunately many people forget to use their ability of judging between correct and wrong when it comes to alQuraan, and believe in what they like in other's work.
In fact, it is our duty to check by ourselves with our given capabilities. This is how I think and that is why I send alerts sometimes
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
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Peace Amina,
Thank you very much for your kind words and no need for apology handshake
I believe that it is better if each one of us do some kind of research before concluding anything from alQuraan. We all know how to check our grocery items before buying them, we also know very well how to check vegetables before bringing it home, we all know checking every thing is working in a house even if we are going to get it on rent, rest aside buying. But unfortunately many people forget to use their ability of judging between correct and wrong when it comes to alQuraan, and believe in what they like in other's work.
In fact, it is our duty to check by ourselves with our given capabilities. This is how I think and that is why I send alerts sometimes
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhanIf I may quote from the Bible "As iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Not sure the exact proverb that is from, but it was one of my favorites when I was a Christian...a reminder that we can and do learn from one another. So keep sending those alerts, Insha'Allah, because I know I have benefitted from them several times.
Peace,
Amina
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If I may quote from the Bible "As iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Not sure the exact proverb that is from, but it was one of my favorites when I was a Christian...a reminder that we can and do learn from one another. So keep sending those alerts, Insha'Allah, because I know I have benefitted from them several times.
Peace,
Amina
Peace Amina,
Yes, its very true that we learn from each other. And thank you for allowing me to send alerts
May Allah bless you,
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Salaam,
hypno
mmKhan
Peace mmKhan...
She did ask for forgiveness for any mistakes she made...go easy
Peace Madiha...
I think the 99 names of Allah is not something based on the teachings of the Qur'an...and that may be what brother mmKhan is getting at. No worries...I was the same way when I first started here...I found that most of what I knew was based on hadith. Just goes to show how corrupted the Sunni faith really is.
-Amina
They ARE mentioned in the quran. Now forgive the source of this article but it will show my point
http//muttaqun.com/99names.html
Look at the 99 names with their cited verses in the Quran at the bottom half. I looked it up before I posted my previous post.
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there is only one TRUTH - one God, life here is finite, after death is life hereafter, Day of Judgement where we have to stand account to how we lived this life, good deeds get rewarded and bad deeds will be punished. the goal is to attain piety.
the koran is a guide book to getting there - offering tools to achieving the goal. there are different ways of getting there.
having different ways of getting to end point doesn't alter the TRUTH. problem is we tend to obsess over form, details, numbers...losing sight of the TRUTH. we tend to complicate life, having our own ideas each claiming his way is better or right way or the only way.
one example is 'salat'. God tells us what the purpose of salat is. yet, you have people pre-occupied with form, numbers, timing, focusing on the details but missing the point. instead of focusing on the TRUTH - we tend to focus, argue, divide over things, and creating all this confusion.
God is not wrong. We are just stupid.
bravo
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They ARE mentioned in the quran. Now forgive the source of this article but it will show my point
http//muttaqun.com/99names.html
Look at the 99 names with their cited verses in the Quran at the bottom half. I looked it up before I posted my previous post.
Al Hamdulilah! That is good to know!
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They ARE mentioned in the quran. Now forgive the source of this article but it will show my point
http//muttaqun.com/99names.html
Look at the 99 names with their cited verses in the Quran at the bottom half. I looked it up before I posted my previous post.
Salaam PAB,
Thanks for your reply. One question for you Did Allah said that those are Allah's names?
May Allah bless you,
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Salaam PAB,
Thanks for your reply. One question for you Did Allah said that those are Allah's names?
May Allah bless you,
mmKhanWa aleykom asalam,
I honestly don't know if Allah said that those are his names. But they certainly are of his traits/descriptions/characteristics. Isn't Maryam qouted to have called upon Al Rahman, when Gabriel came to her, in the Quran? Sounds like a name or attribute of Allah to me.
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Wa aleykom asalam,
I honestly don't know if Allah said that those are his names. But they certainly are of his traits/descriptions/characteristics. Isn't Maryam qouted to have called upon Al Rahman, when Gabriel came to her, in the Quran? Sounds like a name or attribute of Allah to me.
Salaam Madiha,
Thank you for your honest reply.
Sorry for another question from your message above . How do you know that was Gabriel where alQuraan does not say so? Now, back to our topic.
7180 says there are And for Allah are the most beautiful "alasmaa"... . Ism means attribute not name.
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4911 O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by nicknames. Wretched is al-Ism of disobedience after faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.We can see that giving others nicknames are based on their attribute and it is called al-Ism in 4911
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5924 He is Allah , the Creator, the Inventor, the Fashioner; to Him belong the best attributes. Whatever is in the heavens and earth is exalting Him. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.The highlighted ones are the only beautiful attributes of Allah. Please note "laHu" which is referring back to the word "Allah" by saying "to Him belong the best attributes". You may not find such aayat anywhere else in alQuraan, clarifying in such a way, please do let me know if you find any.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
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7180 says there are And for Allah are the most beautiful "alasmaa"... . Ism means attribute not name.
But what about Bism Allah Al Rahman Al Raheem? Doesn't it translate to > In the Name of Allah the Most Gracious/Almighty the Most Merciful?
I accept that they are attributes, but given Bism in the beginnings of all chapters is refered to as Name, then perhaps the other Isms in the Quran are name, too? I don't know, you probably read more of the arabic lexion than I have. But I'm just trying to understand.
Thank you for teaching me mmkhan )
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Peace,
The Quran does not say "in the attribute" but "in the name"
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Walillahi al-asmao alhusna faodAAoohu biha watharoo allatheena yulhidoona fee asma-ihi sayujzawna ma kanoo yaAAmaloona
YUSUFALI The most beautiful names belong to Allah so call on him by them; but shun such men as use profanity in his names for what they do, they will soon be requited.PICKTHAL Allah's are the fairest names. Invoke Him by them. And leave the company of those who blaspheme His names. They will be requited what they do.
SHAKIR And Allah's are the best names, therefore call on Him thereby, and leave alone those who violate the sanctity of His names; they shall be recompensed for what they did.
KHALIFA To GOD belongs the most beautiful names; call upon Him therewith, and disregard those who distort His names. They will be requited for their sins.
Sahih International He is Allah , the Creator, the Inventor, the Fashioner; to Him belong the best names. Whatever is in the heavens and earth is exalting Him. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
Pickthall He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
Yusuf Ali He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
Shakir He is Allah the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner; His are the most excellent names; whatever is in the heavens and the earth declares His glory; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
Muhammad Sarwar He is the Creator, the Designer, the Modeler, and to Him belong all virtuous names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. He is All-majestic and All-wise.
Mohsin Khan He is Allah, the Creator, the Inventor of all things, the Bestower of forms. To Him belong the Best Names . All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
Arberry He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. To Him belong the Names Most Beautiful. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the All-mighty, the All-wise.
Peace O0
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. . Ism means attribute not name.
Salaam MMKhan As a beginner level Arabic speaker I am wondering doesn't the Arabic words "ismi Lena" translate to "my name is Lena" an doesn't shishmak/ shishmik mean whats your name? Aren't these two words related to ism?
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But what about Bism Allah Al Rahman Al Raheem? Doesn't it translate to > In the Name of Allah the Most Gracious/Almighty the Most Merciful?
I accept that they are attributes, but given Bism in the beginnings of all chapters is refered to as Name, then perhaps the other Isms in the Quran are name, too? I don't know, you probably read more of the arabic lexion than I have. But I'm just trying to understand.
Thank you for teaching me mmkhan
Salaam Madiha,
You are welcome handshake, I am just trying to put forward my understanding.
Very good question. Please take a look at the differences below
11, if you break it apart, there will be only two words and . As per my understanding is a single word and it is not + . This is simply because of is missing. You might be thinking this is because of , but that is not the case.
961 , you can clearly notice with here. This is + unlike mentioned above.
Do you see the difference? and . I don't know if means "name".
Hope you understand what I trying to say here, inshaAllah.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
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. . Ism means attribute not name.
Salaam MMKhan As a beginner level Arabic speaker I am wondering doesn't the Arabic words "ismi Lena" translate to "my name is Lena" an doesn't shishmak/ shishmik mean whats your name? Aren't these two words related to ism?
Thanks.Salaam Lena,
Correct! but that is so called Arabic Language. Arabic language of alQuraan is different than language used in Arab countries. Please check my above post.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhan