Wash or Wipe your feet
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Well, i have recently changed my views.
I now follow Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the covenant 381.
He taught to wash your feet...I recommend going through and studying
Mathematical Miracle of the Quran
http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.htmlMessenger of the Covenant
http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/faq/messenger_of_covenant.html -
Salaam, Bro mmkhan. )
I'm still learning this (whether wash or wipe the feet? Or may we do both, wash & wipe the feet)?
Would you explain more why you think it means wash the feet?
Thank you.
Salaam JavaLatte,
Let me try explaining it inshaAllah. There is a clear pattern set in 56, you may need to understand that pattern.
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56 O you who have believed, when you rise to prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.I have divided this aayat in 3 parts with different colors to make it understand easily.
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= Wipeincludes - wujuhAkum and - aydiyAkum and - arjulAkum. You can notice "fatha" that sounds like "A" in these words from red highlighted part.
includes - ruoosIkum. Please note "kasra" that sounds like "I" in this word from red highlighted part.
includes - wujoohIkum and - aydIIkum. Please note "kasra" in both the words which is used because of same as used in the red part above . And "fatha" is used to refer .
means "and but He intends to purify/clean you". And legs are parts that get more dirty than other parts of our body mentioned in 56 to wash and wipe. How could we get clean just by wiping our feet? The purpose of ablution is to clean/purify us.
Hope this may help inshaAllah.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
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Salaam,
I agree with mmKhan.
In 7124 the feet have the same "value" as the hands, thus both will be "LaoqatiAAanna" in 56 that is not the case.
7124
7124 LaoqatiAAanna aydiyakum waarjulakum min khilafin thumma laosallibannakum ajmaAAeenaSalaam,
BenderSalaam brother,
Thank you for this aayat handshake
May Allah bless you,
mmKhan -
Well, i have recently changed my views.
I now follow Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the covenant 381.
He taught to wash your feet...Sorry Youssef but so did every other prophet back to pre-history. Washing the feet is a sign of respect, it was done thousands of years ago when entering temples and when entering someone's home they washed your feet.
peace
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Peace Mohammed peace
The original arabic did not have any vowel marks because it is well known that these vowels were developed later on laugh
If yuo check older Quranic manuscriptes, you will find that they are missing these vowel marks (e.g golden koran).
Thus if vowel marks were not given to the people before us as divine inspiration, how can we know that these vowel marks are 100% accurate? since ethey were developed After...Those who developed these conjectural stories perhaps were not even aware that Arabic is a language of syllables, and the smallest syllable comprises of a consonant coupled with a vowel. Minus vowel there is no Arabic language except for conjecture mongers and fools.
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Salam,
does arjulakum mean "your feet" or "your legs"?
thanks
Peace herbman -- note hands to the elbow bottom up; same with feet to the ankles...
56 O you the ones who believe when you stand up to the prayer so wash your faces and your hands to the elbow and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles and if you are impure so purify yourselves and if you are sick or on journey or comes one from you from the toilet or you touched the women so not you find water so do dry ablution ground clean so wipe with your faces and your hands from it not intends The God to make over you from harm in doing and nonetheless intends to cleanse you and to complete His favor over you that you may give thanks
In my view, the logic of the verse implies "wipe". But I dont mind either wash/wipe.
Peace Wakas, one cannot wash using clean soil/ground.
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Salam,
does arjulakum mean "your feet" or "your legs"?
thanks
Salaam herbman,
I think feet.
See the next verse please
665 Say "He is able to send retribution from above you or from below arjulikum, or He will make you belong to opposing factions, then He will let you taste the might of each other." See how We dispatch the signs, perhaps they may understand.Salaam,
bender -
Peace all.
I do not see any issues in " wipe you heads" as separate from the other three parts.
Why did God say " wipe your heads"?
Because the head has got hair and " wash your head "means your hair also!
Now ablution is an instruction to obey God. It is not meant for hygiene purposes.
" wipe your heads" is quick and easy. " Wash your heads" is complicated and a long process.
Some will want to argue for the sake of it! Can you imagine if it was " wash your heads"? Some will want to include shampoo or forbid it, or forbid different types of shampoo and so on...
Why do we make things complicated?
Peace.
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Peace All.
Remember, we are diverse. The main thing is that ablution is four parts
1-Face, 2- arms/hands 3- head and 4-feet.
How you do it , how many times you wash each part, how much water you use, which direction you face, what you say while doing it ... is left to the individual. Quick and easy is preferable!
Whether you use a small amount of water is irrelevant. The other main point is " Wash" and "wipe" , wipe is meant for " head" as I explained in my last post.
Good ablution to you all.
Peace.
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Salam everybody
anyone from you read the above link what i give?? He explains the matter very good. - in my humble view.
peaceYes, he has summarized views of different people. But he has no tenable point in favour of wipe for feet instead of washing with water.
These parts are mostly open, the cells of the skin keep dying. Every minute about 30,000 to 40,000 cells of the skin die. On epidermis, the part of the skin we see, are many dead cells mixed with sticky stuff created by sebaceous and sweat glands. The dead cells are but filth.
This requirement for As-salat enables us refresh and clean our skin and wiping of the hair helps protect them from damage to be caused by dust and pollution of the atmosphere.- And this ablution enables us refresh the memory like the RAM of the computer to leave behind the worldly affairs to enter into a new realm.
The basic perception infolded in Root " " is to wash with water signifying the removing of dirt, or filth or the like thereof by making water to run over it resulting in cleansing/free from unpleasantness-impurity. And the basic perception infolded in the Root " " is also to make something clean or pure from dirt or filth. In both, the basic job done is to segregate oneself, one thing from the impurities clung to it/around it. The distinction and peculiarity, however, of the two is that " " is restrictively used for corporeal cleaning/purification with water while Root " " has connotation both corporeal and ideological and can be attained both with the help of water and otherwise.
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Salam all
for this topic an excellent article from brother Joseph
http//quransmessage.com/articles/washing-wiping%20FM3.htm
SalamsSalam. Thank you for the link, dear Sis.
Thank you all who join discussion, share information and thoughts in this topic. Very much appreciated! )
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Salaam JavaLatte,
Let me try explaining it inshaAllah. There is a clear pattern set in 56, you may need to understand that pattern.
56
56 O you who have believed, when you rise to prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.I have divided this aayat in 3 parts with different colors to make it understand easily.
= Wash
= Wipeincludes - wujuhAkum and - aydiyAkum and - arjulAkum. You can notice "fatha" that sounds like "A" in these words from red highlighted part.
includes - ruoosIkum. Please note "kasra" that sounds like "I" in this word from red highlighted part.
includes - wujoohIkum and - aydIIkum. Please note "kasra" in both the words which is used because of same as used in the red part above . And "fatha" is used to refer .
means "and but He intends to purify/clean you". And legs are parts that get more dirty than other parts of our body mentioned in 56 to wash and wipe. How could we get clean just by wiping our feet? The purpose of ablution is to clean/purify us.
Hope this may help inshaAllah.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhanSalaam. Thank you so much, Brother.
Alhamdulillah. I finally began to understand the pattern (after I read your explanation over and over - because I am a slow learner in foreign languages). ;D
And legs are parts that get more dirty than other parts of our body mentioned in 56 to wash and wipe.
Agree, that's why in my ablution I usually flush the feet with water and then wipe feet to the ankles, because I feel rather uncomfortable if I just wipe my feet without water.
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includes - wujuhAkum and - aydiyAkum and - arjulAkum. You can notice "fatha" that sounds like "A" in these words from red highlighted part.
includes - ruoosIkum. Please note "kasra" that sounds like "I" in this word from red highlighted part.
includes - wujoohIkum and - aydIIkum. Please note "kasra" in both the words which is used because of same as used in the red part above . And "fatha" is used to refer .
Kasra is because of governance of Preposition prefixed to it. The verb is made transitive with the use of Preposition.
Fatha is for reason of that being the direct object of Verb. People advocating wiping of feet have no support argument. Understanding that is the case ending is the heart of Arabic gramar. -
Salaam. Thank you so much, Brother.
Alhamdulillah. I finally began to understand the pattern (after I read your explanation over and over - because I am a slow learner in foreign languages). ;D
Agree, that's why in my ablution I usually flush the feet with water and then wipe feet to the ankles, because I feel rather uncomfortable if I just wipe my feet without water.
Salaam.
You are very welcome handshake
AlhamduliAllah, I am glad to know that you already started learning and understanding the patterns of alQuraan InshaAllah, I will show you more patterns later . I strongly believe that this is how alQuraan guides to alNaas as per 2185
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhan
