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What is the Sin that God does not Forgive?

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    belH
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    Peace all,
    Thank you all for your responses.
    My understanding is all sins can be forgiven if we repent (before death) except the following Sin

    493

    And whoever kills a believer intentionally, then his recompense shall be Hell, abiding therein, and God will be angry with him, and curse him, and for him is prepared a great retribution.

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      good_logic
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      Peace belH.

      Please look at the context. Verses 4 90 to 115 are dealing with rules of war, friendship...Then God goes on to say
      [4116[
      God does not forgive idol worship (if maintained until death),* and He forgives lesser offences for whomever He wills. Anyone who idolizes any idol beside God has strayed far astray.

      Otherwise you might as well take [ 4115}

      As for him who opposes the messenger, after the guidance has been pointed out to him, and follows other than the believers' way, we will direct him in the direction he has chosen, and commit him to Hell; what a miserable destiny!

      Then say this is also an unforgivable sin?

      All sins can be forgiven,if one sincerely repents before death.

      Peace.

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        belH
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        Peace belH.

        Please look at the context. Verses 4 90 to 115 are dealing with rules of war, friendship...Then God goes on to say
        [4116[
        God does not forgive idol worship (if maintained until death),* and He forgives lesser offences for whomever He wills. Anyone who idolizes any idol beside God has strayed far astray.

        Otherwise you might as well take [ 4115}

        As for him who opposes the messenger, after the guidance has been pointed out to him, and follows other than the believers' way, we will direct him in the direction he has chosen, and commit him to Hell; what a miserable destiny!

        Then say this is also an unforgivable sin?

        All sins can be forgiven,if one sincerely repents before death.

        Peace.

        Peace,
        Help me out here...see the verse 92 below

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        And it is not for a believer to kill another believer except by accident. And whoever kills a believer by accident, then he shall free a believing slave, and give compensation to the family; except if they remit it. If he was from a people who are enemies to you, and he was a believer, then you shall free a believing slave. And if he was from a people with whom you have a covenant, then a compensation to his family, and free a believing slave. Whoever does not find, then the fasting of two months sequentially as a repentance from God; for God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

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        Then see the verse after

        493

        And whoever kills a believer intentionally, then his recompense shall be Hell, abiding therein, and God will be angry with him, and curse him, and for him is prepared a great retribution.

        493

        What is the punishment for killing a believer intentionally?

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          good_logic
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          Peace belH.

          As for him who opposes the messenger, after the guidance has been pointed out to him, and follows other than the believers' way, we will direct him in the direction he has chosen, and commit him to Hell; what a miserable destiny!

          What is the punishment for opposing the messenger?

          However if one repents before death, all sins can be forgiven!.

          Peace.

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            belH
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            Peace belH.

            As for him who opposes the messenger, after the guidance has been pointed out to him, and follows other than the believers' way, we will direct him in the direction he has chosen, and commit him to Hell; what a miserable destiny!

            What is the punishment for opposing the messenger?

            However if one repents before death, all sins can be forgiven!.

            Peace.

            Peace Brother,

            Sorry, I'm about to go out for dinner; however, I would love to discuss this further later.
            But please understand these are two different Sins. The Killing's punishment is death, but disbleving is not and has no punishment in life (unless we believe the Suna and say it is death ).
            We can find many verses in the quran about repenting when one disblieves, but non about repenting from killing a believer.
            Peace

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              mmkhan
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              Peace all,
              Thank you all for your responses.
              My understanding is all sins can be forgiven if we repent (before death) except the following Sin

              493
              And whoever kills a believer intentionally, then his recompense shall be Hell, abiding therein, and God will be angry with him, and curse him, and for him is prepared a great retribution.

              493

              Salaam belH,

              Thank you for pointing it out. I agree with you handshake

              Killing a believer INTENTIONALLY has already declared his recompense as JAHANNUM. I will agree with you until it is clear to me that Jahannum is not available in this world life but only in the life after. May Allah help me and increase us in knowledge.

              Intentionally, is a key point that has to be understood to understand the true meaning of that aayat.

              May God bless you bro, and fill your life with happiness and peace pr
              mmKhan

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                Bender
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                Salaam belH,

                Thank you for pointing it out. I agree with you handshake

                Killing a believer INTENTIONALLY has already declared his recompense as JAHANNUM. I will agree with you until it is clear to me that Jahannum is not available in this world life but only in the life after. May Allah help me and increase us in knowledge.

                Intentionally, is a key point that has to be understood to understand the true meaning of that aayat.

                mmKhan

                Salaam bro,

                It also doesn't look good for someone who did this

                2423

                May God bless you bro, and fill your life with happiness and peace pr
                Bender

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                  mmkhan
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                  Salaam bro,

                  It also doesn't look good for someone who did this

                  2423

                  May God bless you bro, and fill your life with happiness and peace pr
                  Bender

                  Salaam bro,

                  That is why it is said that you should read and study what is the original topic before jumping in hmm BTW, I was pointing that in reference to "yawm alQiyaamat" not "alAakhirat".

                  May God bless you,
                  mmKhan

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                    Bender
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                    Salaam bro,

                    That is why it is said that you should read and study what is the original topic before jumping in hmm BTW, I was pointing that in reference to "yawm alQiyaamat" not "alAakhirat".

                    May God bless you,
                    mmKhan

                    Salaam bro,

                    Did I say I was talking about "yawm alQiyaamat" >
                    I just wanted to share an ayaat >
                    It almost looks like you did (or still doing) what is 2423 &

                    May God bless you,
                    Bender

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                      mmkhan
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                      Salaam bro,

                      Did I say I was talking about "yawm alQiyaamat" >(
                      I just wanted to share an ayaat >(
                      It almost looks like you did (or still doing) what is 2423 &

                      May God bless you,
                      Bender

                      Salaam bro,

                      Red Where? Oh sorry, are you a "muhsanaat"? rotfl

                      Sorry for fftopic I am not gonna continue this inshaAllah.

                      May Allah bless you,
                      mmKhan

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                        An uncle raped his his 3/4 year old niece repeatedly and the child died not so long ago in Pakistan - and most of screwed up people will say that isn't shirk

                        wow

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