The Qur'aan and The Hidden Book called The Book (al-kitaab).
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The First Coming in written form of The Book (al_kitaab).
ALLAAH sends Moses (muwsaa)(P+) and with him he sends The Book (al_kitaab) via The Torah (al_tawrah).0028043
And We had already given Moses The Book (al_kitaab)
after We had detroyed the first generations
mental perceptions and visions for humanity
and
Guidance and Mercy
in order for them to think of and bear in mind.017002
And We gave Moses The Book (al_kitaab)
and made it a Guide to The Sons of Israel,
"do not take without Me any guiding representative."023049
And We had already given Moses The Book (al_kitaab)
in order that they might be rightly guided.040053
And We had already given Moses The Guidance
and We made The Sons of Israel to inherit The Book (al_kitaab).03224
And We appointed from among them Imaams guiding by Our Command
when they steadfastly endured and were absolutely certain in Our Signs (aayaat).041045
And We had already given Moses The Book (al_kitaab) but disputes arose therein
and had it not been for a word that preceded from thy Lord
judgement would have been pronounced between them
but they are in an uncertainty from it arousing doubt.The Followers of The Book ( 'ahl_ul_kitaab)
The followers are all those who have been cut off from the Family Tree of Abraham
as well as all the other peoples who have submitted to and believed in his religion after The Torah.
e.g The Jews.005047
Truly We have revealed The Torah (al_tawrah) wherein is Guidance and Light.
By It the Prophets who have submitted have judged
those who have been Jews
and
those in the Divine Rabbinical Service
and
the Learned Scribes
on what they have preserved from The Book (al_kitaab).
And they were witnesses over it.042014
And they did not become divided except until after The Knowledge had come to them
through desire and mutual infringement.
And had it not been for a word that preceded from thy Lord for a delayed term
judgement would have been pronounced between them.
And truly those who have inherited The Book (al_kitaab) thereafter are in an uncertainty from it; arousing doubt.003187
And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
to make it known and not to hide it
but they discarded it behind their backs and bought with it some miserable gain!
And Vile was the bargain they made.2
The Second Coming in written form of The Book (al_kitaab).
ALLAAH sends Jesus ("iysaa)(D+) and with him He sends The Book (al_kitaab)via The Gospel (al_'injiyl).003042
And behold! The Angels said,
"O Mary! ALLAAH gives thee good news of a Word from Him.
His name is The Christ Jesus , The Son of Mary, distinguished in this world and the hereafter.003045
"He shall speak to the people in the cradle and middle age"003047
She said "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?"
He said "Like that it is to thee; ALLAAH creates what He wills.
When He has executed a command and then He just says to it BE! And then it becomes.003048
And ALLAAH will teach him
The Book (al_kitaab)
and
The Wisdom (al_hikmah)
and
The Torah (al_tawrah)
and
The Gospel (al_'injiyl)00549
And in their footsteps We sent Jesus (D+), the Son of Mary (s+) confirming what is between His Hands from The Torah.
And We sent him The Gospel wherein is Guidance and Light
and confirming what is between His Hands from The Torah
a Guidance and an Admonition to those who fear ALLAAH.005069
If they had abided by the Torah and the Gospel
and what has been revealed to them from their Lord
they would have been nourished from above them and from beneath their feet.
Among them are a rightly guided-directed people but many of them; bad is what they do.005014
And from among those who said, "truly we are Christian"
We did take their Covenant but they forgot a good part of what they were reminded of.
And so We brought among them antagonism and hatred until the Day of Resurrection.
And ALLAAH will inform them in what it was they have done.3
The Third Coming in written form of The Book (al_kitaab).
ALLAAH sends Muhammad(S+) and with him He sends The Book (al_kitaab) via The Qur'aan (al_qur'aan).004136
Oh! You who have believed!
Believe in ALLAAH and His Messenger
and
The Book (al_kitaab) which He has sent His Messenger
and
The Book (al_kitaab) which He has sent aforetime.
And who rejects ALLAAH, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgement
has lost his way; a distant straying.
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And then We gave Moses (P+) The Book (al_kitaab)
a total completion upon those who are more excellent
and
a complete detailed explanation of everything
as well as
a Guide and a Mercy
in order that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
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And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing so follow it
and work towards perfect righteousness in order that you may receive mercy.006156
Lest you should say,
"The Book (al_kitaab) was sent down to Two Peoples before us
and that we were upon their studies truly unaware.006157
Or lest you should say,
"If the Book (al_kitaab) had been sent down to us, we would have been better guided than them."
And so there has come to you an indisputable evidence from your Lord
and a Guide and a Mercy.
And who can be more unjustly wrong than one who denies the Signs (al_aayaat) of ALLAAH
and turns away from them.
We shall reward those who turn away from Our Signs with the calamity of punishment
for their having turned away.We do tell unto thee the best of stories in what We reveal to thee of This Quraan
and thou was before this from among the unaware.Truly this Quraan guides to that which is most upright
and gives the good news to the believers who do the good works.
Truly for them is a great reward.High above is ALLAAH, The King, The Truth!
Be thou not in a hurry with The Quraan before its revelation to thee is completed but say,
my Lord! increase me in KnowledgeAnd it was not that This Quraan
could have been contrived by other than ALLAAH.
But it is a confirmation of What is between His Hands
and
a detailed explanation of The Book (al_kitaab) wherein there is no doubt
from The Lord of the Worlds.056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Quraan
in a Hidden Book.
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.Recite what is revealed to thee from The Book (al_kitaab)
and establish the Regular Praising Prayer.
Truly the Regular Praising Prayer restrains from the Abominable Bad Deeds
as well as the Reprehensible Action.
And truly the Remembrance of ALLAAH is Greater.
And ALLAAH knows what you are doing.And dispute you not with The People of The Book (al_kitaab)
except in which it is better
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but say, "We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and in that which has come down to you.
Our God and your God is One.
And it is to Him We submit.And like that We have sent down to thee The Book (al_kitaab).
And so those to whom we have given The Book (al_kitaab) believe therein
as also do some of these
and none rejects Our Signs (al-aayaat) except the Ungrateful Unbelievers.To be continued inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed.)
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Ah, the same procedure as on all the other places!
Post a couple of pages.
Make it look as though you know something.
Get someone else to distract critics.
Avoid answering questions.
Promise more and more for "later".
Post some more nonsensical pages with large diagrams.
Open more threads.
Make more promises.
Avoid any factual explanations.
Open more threads and make yet more promises.
Disappear and flit over to the next forum.You have sensationally low views on the other places as people quickly recognise the lack of substance.
You have a huge number of critics who simply give up after asking a few basic questions which you never answer.
The ones who initially support you and try to fend off critics are left alone, looking helpless and gullible while you are pulling off the same stunt on the next forum, if they don't immediately stop you.
You brag with your background and who you know to get people's confidence. You post some claims to get attention but never explain the basics.
Are you not the least ashamed of yourself?
You are abusing the trust of good people who don't have the knowledge and don't see the need to check your activities.
Are you just promoting books you will advertise later? So that people who are interested now will buy them to find what you are promising?
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Interesting...
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Wa alaikum Salaam al-amiyr,
It seemed to me that you dragged and stretched the topic to the level of boring, half of your original post was just a marketing stuff, it seems that you are gonna sell some books here.
Anyways, are you talking about this? Please take a look, it is with no complications?
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
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Wa alaikum Salaam al-amiyr,
It seemed to me that you dragged and stretched the topic to the level of boring, half of your original post was just a marketing stuff, it seems that you are gonna sell some books here.
Anyways, are you talking about this? Please take a look, it is with no complications?
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhanwa"alaykumu-s-salaam mmkhan
When I joined the forum you PMed me with a beautiful explanation about the importance etc. of the Qur'aan. After that I read a number of your enlightening posts which I enjoyed. You sounded like a very non judgmental human being and one who has an ear and a patience to listen to another.
But I feel a bit disappointed and I consider it unfair and wrong what you wrote above.
What made you say these unjustified statements
1-"half of your original post was just a marketing stuff"
2-"it seems that you are gonna sell some books here."I have no idea what inspired you to write the above but I am also not surprised. Can you please explain yourself?
Let me set out the matter why I am here. When I arrived here, I introduced myself and my purpose and I quote what I wrote
as-salaamu "alaykum Table Mountain, Cape Town
as-salaamu "alaykum to all the brothers and sisters
I stumbled across your forum as I roamed the Internet Highways. I decided to also take a little rest among its green pastures and flowing rivers and hope to meet its wonderful Qur'anic inhabitants.
I have important subjects of the Qur'aan to discuss with you and hope to hear from you your valuable comments inshaa allaah.
Among them are what I have called The Qur'aan Cosmological Model A delineation of the origin, evolution, and final fate of the current Universe as contained in just two verses of the Qur'aan(spelling fixed).
I am discussing various aspects of it on non Muslim forums and it has always reached the most views. I am also on two other Muslim forums but unfortunately although it reached the most viewed for the month there was non who replied.
I hope there will be some brothers and sisters here who could give any comment for the increase of the knowledge inshaa allaah.wa-"alaykum-us-salaam
As you can see, I have set out my purpose. But you have PMed me and the reason for not replying yet is because of the vastness of the subject that you discussed and my preparation of my reply that is still in the making.
This subject of the Book around the internet world has brought me many friends as well as many enemies and I have classified them as followers
Friends
1- those who had free minds to listen.
2-those who were initially enemies but chose to follow the discussion until its end and were then overwhelmed by what they could never have imagined.Enemies
1- Anti-theists and those who feel threatened that their particular ideologies will collapse in the presence of this knowledge and so they go on a campaign to play the ball and not the man. Then when I take up the ball as well then - like a pact of dogs- they all attack and when that no longer works and more of their people support what I have said then they issue a ban. These are all recorded as every post I make get recorded under the relevant forum name and everything gets placed in my own discussion forum for all to read. I believe in transparency.
2- Owners of forums who feel threatened because more and more posters get involved in my threads and begin to support what I have outlined. This has happened on three forums and another few where no ban was issued yet.
3- On this site there happens to be an enemy who follows me all over the world (after I had a battle with his Atheists friends and allies on their forum where the cursing of God and his prophets are allowed) trying his very best to make people against me. Quoting me at all times out of context. But his strategies have never worked and only brings more attention to what I have to say.' There is no illogical 'stuff' in whatever I present" You yourself did not point out anything wrong with the article like you normally do to others in your normally very friendly an conciliatory tone. When it normally comes to me then all the great Free- thinkers, Liberalists,etc, loose themselves and then also become no different than their very opponents the other radicals and fundamentalists. To me they have all the same mindset- serving the Great ShayTaan as the Qur'aan says.You mentioned,
"It seemed to me that you dragged and stretched the topic to the level of boring,"
You have the right to your opinion but this is what I can tell you and that is that there has never yet been an article in the history of the world that sums up the Book (al-kitaab) in such a brief matter up to the time of the Prophet (S+) with so many details of clarification. Your article that you linked me to was very well written and I enjoyed it very much. It was the best that I have ever read anywhere else. But your article lack much clarification
as well. In the next post I shall go more into this matter.I hope that these statements of yours are not a preparation for a ban like I have been familiar with before. If it is then let me know and then I will be on my way seeking another world inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).
I will end off with your familiar phrase
May Allah bless you and may He guide us all to His true path
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Wa alaikum Salaam al-amiyr,
It seemed to me that you dragged and stretched the topic to the level of boring,
Anyways, are you talking about this? Please take a look, it is with no complications?May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhanSalaam mmkhan
I did not find al-amiyr post boring. He is not dragging his post. Actually he is reinforcing his points in a style similar to that of a university lecturer.half of your original post was just a marketing stuff, it seems that you are gonna sell some books here.
This is what al-amiyr wrote Re The Qur?aan Cosmological Model - Delineation Of The Current universe.
? Reply #16 on December 07, 2012, 034919 AM ?
I am discussing this subject on other forums as well and I can assure you that it gets the most views wherever it goes. It is a book that I am writing and I make all the info freely available for the world. I am about to present many models of knowledge to the world the like of which has never been seen before. inshaa allaah to everythingBTW have you noticed that I hardly replied to your posts and never took interst in them? I have no idea why they did not attract my attention. No offence but I too feel that your article lack much clarification
Salaam -
Salaam mmkhan
I did not find al-amiyr post boring. He is not dragging his post. Actually he is reinforcing his points in a style similar to that of a university lecturer.This is what al-amiyr wrote Re The Qur?aan Cosmological Model - Delineation Of The Current universe.
? Reply #16 on December 07, 2012, 034919 AM ?
I am discussing this subject on other forums as well and I can assure you that it gets the most views wherever it goes. It is a book that I am writing and I make all the info freely available for the world. I am about to present many models of knowledge to the world the like of which has never been seen before. inshaa allaah to everythingBTW have you noticed that I hardly replied to your posts and never took interst in them? I have no idea why they did not attract my attention. No offence but I too feel that your article lack much clarification
SalaamHi farida
I agree with you. I think al-amiyr put his point across well. I am still waiting a reply from him to my post. I have lots of questions that I would like to ask concerning this supposedly hidden book.
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I pray to God that al-amiyr will not be put off or annoyed by some members here, and will have the patience and good will to reveal his knowledge to some of us who are eager to learn more about the truth.
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wa"alaykumu-s-salaam mmkhan
When I joined the forum you PMed me with a beautiful explanation about the importance etc. of the Qur'aan. After that I read a number of your enlightening posts which I enjoyed. You sounded like a very non judgmental human being and one who has an ear and a patience to listen to another.
But I feel a bit disappointed and I consider it unfair and wrong what you wrote above.
What made you say these unjustified statements
1-"half of your original post was just a marketing stuff"
2-"it seems that you are gonna sell some books here."I have no idea what inspired you to write the above but I am also not surprised. Can you please explain yourself?
Salaam al-amiyr,
Sorry if you feel it offended, please accept my apologize, I did not meant that way.
Let me explain you why I wrote that... When I start reading it, it gives me same impression that I found on many websites, when I try to find a price of some item which I am interested in, they drag and drag and drag to pages, informing about their product's benefits, how it works, etc. etc... when I am only interested in it's price.
When I try to see what is that hidden book in your post, I feel the same. My first point that you wrote is "half of your original post was just LIKE a marketing stuff", I am sorry that I don't understand how I missed "like" from that line. This continues the second part "it seems that you are gonna sell some books here". Because of the way you write, it seems to me that you are going to sell some books.
I did not meant to blame you in any ways, and believe me, I simply write those lines without any intention. Just by keeping in mind those marketing strategy that I mentioned. Hope I made my point clear, inshaAllah.
You mentioned,
"It seemed to me that you dragged and stretched the topic to the level of boring,"As I explained above, when I was trying to find something and could not able to reach that point, I started feeling bore.
Please take a look at first half of your original post by keeping in mind what I said and you will understand what I am saying inshaAllah.
I personally don't like repeated words in any article, I prefer it to be point by point, anyways, that is my personal choice. Again, I apologize if you feel offended, and I never meant in that way.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhan -
Salaam al-amiyr,
Sorry if you feel it offended, please accept my apologize, I did not meant that way.
Let me explain you why I wrote that... When I start reading it, it gives me same impression that I found on many websites, when I try to find a price of some item which I am interested in, they drag and drag and drag to pages, informing about their product's benefits, how it works, etc. etc... when I am only interested in it's price.
When I try to see what is that hidden book in your post, I feel the same. My first point that you wrote is "half of your original post was just LIKE a marketing stuff", I am sorry that I don't understand how I missed "like" from that line. This continues the second part "it seems that you are gonna sell some books here". Because of the way you write, it seems to me that you are going to sell some books.
I did not meant to blame you in any ways, and believe me, I simply write those lines without any intention. Just by keeping in mind those marketing strategy that I mentioned. Hope I made my point clear, inshaAllah.
As I explained above, when I was trying to find something and could not able to reach that point, I started feeling bore.Please take a look at first half of your original post by keeping in mind what I said and you will understand what I am saying inshaAllah.
I personally don't like repeated words in any article, I prefer it to be point by point, anyways, that is my personal choice. Again, I apologize if you feel offended, and I never meant in that way.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
mmKhansalaam+ brother mmkhan
I am very happy that there was no bad intention on your part. In the back of my mind I left room for that and I thought that I will not in anyway judge you negatively by something that is not meant the way it might have sounded to others. Now I am even more convinced that you are a wise man al-hamdu lillaah. If I had any such thoughts may you also pardon me for that.
Good points about you from me.
1)- You are a seeker after truth and one who is not arrogant.
2)- You have come to many conclusions on matters that appear to be unique to you (all based on the Qur'aan - al-hamdu lillaah).
3)- You like to share knowledge in a humble way without remuneration.
4)- etc.
I came to these conclusion from reading a number of your threads during the past week.Another very important point is that when I read your al-kitaab (the Book) thread that you linked to I was quite surprised. I was amazed how identical the analyses were. I have not seen anyone who went so clearly and correctly into the matter in this day and age as you did. 99%+ of the Muslims of the world have no idea about the Book (al-kitaab). But even this good analyses of yours did not make clear many things. I have not yet started even with the subject. I hope that we could discuss this subject further inshaa allaah. I will start to analyze what you have written and what you have left out. It will be good if you could do that to my presentation.
Debate is healthy and progressive as long as we have free-minds that go with it.
Thank you
May ALLAAH guide all of us inshaa allaah.
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Peace al-amiyr,
Interesting, although I am put off by hadith which I have ignored, the rest is outstanding
Please continue unabated.
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salaam+ hawkninetynine
Thanks! But do not be put off by anything. Just read it! Don't dismiss it. You do not have to believe it if you wish not. The Qur'aan is sufficient to explain the Book (al-kitaab) clearly.
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Salaam mmkhan
I did not find al-amiyr post boring. He is not dragging his post. Actually he is reinforcing his points in a style similar to that of a university lecturer.This is what al-amiyr wrote Re The Qur?aan Cosmological Model - Delineation Of The Current universe.
? Reply #16 on December 07, 2012, 034919 AM ?
I am discussing this subject on other forums as well and I can assure you that it gets the most views wherever it goes. It is a book that I am writing and I make all the info freely available for the world. I am about to present many models of knowledge to the world the like of which has never been seen before. inshaa allaah to everythingBTW have you noticed that I hardly replied to your posts and never took interst in them? I have no idea why they did not attract my attention. No offence but I too feel that your article lack much clarification
Salaamsalaam+ farida (farida in Arabic means the unique and incomparable and singular lady)
Thanks very much for an excellent explanation.
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I hope that these statements of yours are not a preparation for a ban like I have been familiar with before. If it is then let me know and then I will be on my way seeking another world inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).
Salaam al-amiyr
I think this site has distanced itself from the time they banned anyone who did not express him/her self as expected. Had they continued that practice it would have resulted in finishing off this forum. Instead I feel they have become more liberal and tolerant and allow the freedom of expression and I would give credit to brother Layth for this.
So please continue, as many are eager to learn from you.
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salaam+ brother mmkhan
I am very happy that there was no bad intention on your part. In the back of my mind I left room for that and I thought that I will not in anyway judge you negatively by something that is not meant the way it might have sounded to others. Now I am even more convinced that you are a wise man al-hamdu lillaah. If I had any such thoughts may you also pardon me for that.
Good points about you from me.
1)- You are a seeker after truth and one who is not arrogant.
2)- You have come to many conclusions on matters that appear to be unique to you (all based on the Qur'aan - al-hamdu lillaah).
3)- You like to share knowledge in a humble way without remuneration.
4)- etc.
I came to these conclusion from reading a number of your threads during the past week.Another very important point is that when I read your al-kitaab (the Book) thread that you linked to I was quite surprised. I was amazed how identical the analyses were. I have not seen anyone who went so clearly and correctly into the matter in this day and age as you did. 99%+ of the Muslims of the world have no idea about the Book (al-kitaab). But even this good analyses of yours did not make clear many things. I have not yet started even with the subject. I hope that we could discuss this subject further inshaa allaah. I will start to analyze what you have written and what you have left out. It will be good if you could do that to my presentation.
Debate is healthy and progressive as long as we have free-minds that go with it.
Thank you
May ALLAAH guide all of us inshaa allaah.
Salaam brother,
Thank you for your kind words handshake May Allah bless you pr
I will be happy to know what you have to say, it will be surely an update for me on my understanding of alKitaab, inshaAllah. I will share my understanding if I have anything to say, inshaAllah.
So brother, please share what you have to...Thanks!
Sorry everyone here if you find this delay because of me.. -[
May Allah bless you and fill your life with happiness and peace pr
mmKhan -
salaam
there is absolutely no hidden book.
37 He is the One who sent down to you the Book, from which there are firm revelations; they are the essence of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB); and others which are .......
1339 God erases and confirms what He wishes, and with Him is the source of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB).
434 And it is held honorable and wise in the master record (OMMOU EL KITAB) with Us.For GOD, there is only one religion and only one book.
From the original Book, in the only "Hands" of GOD, he extract (confirms or erase) what he want before transmission to a messager.It is why Quran is speaking only of one book (AL KITAB) and never speaks abouts books (AL KOTOB) even if quran "knows" that torah, injeel Quran and other "extractions" constitute different physical books.
Firsts "extractions" have been lost or altered by humans. Last extraction is protected by God himself but will be deserted and misunderstood.
2530 And the messenger said "My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur'an."13-39 was used by sectarians to justify the bullshit science of naskh and mansoukh.
When sectarians says "People of THE BOOK" are jews and christians and not us, they are simply rejecting "THE BOOK".Peace
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salaam
there is absolutely no hidden book.
37 He is the One who sent down to you the Book, from which there are firm revelations; they are the essence of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB); and others which are .......
1339 God erases and confirms what He wishes, and with Him is the source of the Book (OMMOU EL KITAB).
434 And it is held honorable and wise in the master record (OMMOU EL KITAB) with Us.For GOD, there is only one religion and only one book.
From the original Book, in the only "Hands" of GOD, he extract (confirms or erase) what he want before transmission to a messager.It is why Quran is speaking only of one book (AL KITAB) and never speaks abouts books (AL KOTOB) even if quran "knows" that torah, injeel Quran and other "extractions" constitute different physical books.
Firsts "extractions" have been lost or altered by humans. Last extraction is protected by God himself but will be deserted and misunderstood.
2530 And the messenger said "My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur'an."13-39 was used by sectarians to justify the bullshit science of naskh and mansoukh.
When sectarians says "People of THE BOOK" are jews and christians and not us, they are simply rejecting "THE BOOK".Peace
salaam+
My red emphases in your text that I have quoted.
Surely that is a bold statement to make. What if I show you the Book (al-kitaab).
Let me ask you this very important question.
What do you think is the Book (al-kitaab)? Please clarify this point.056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.