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    youssef4342
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    there are actually three versions of this sermon cited in the Hadith books

    1. First version
      "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Family?.
      (Al-Tirmidhi 6143; Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319)
    2. Second version
      "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Sunnah".
      (Muwatta Book 46.1.3
    3. Third version
      "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided, The Book of God"
      (Sahih Muslim Book 7, Number 2803; Muslim 15/19/1218; Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905).

    The Shia Muslims would accept the First Version
    The Sunni Muslims would accept the Second Version
    We Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone would accept the Third Version, because again, the Quran is Fully Detailed (6114) Not missing Anything (63 and it explains and clarifies Everything (12111,1689).

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      Salaamun-Alaykum Sunnah-Hero

      Thank you for sharing your story with us. May Allah help you with your research, InshaAllah.

      peace

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        Hey Wa2el since you've done dawah work, you can do Quran-alone dawah D
        I do that. I pass out flyers to mostly non-muslims, and muslms, and stickers with websites etc.

        here is a version of my flyer that i personally pass out (To non-muslims) (i try-fold it, fold bottom till first paragraph, and then fold the top part that's left down = looks like an invitation)
        https//docs.google.com/document/d/1hBQdP0E8jxzKSZkZivFEv_2zo-NABl2DaYQoU7Qqijs/edit

        Here is a Flyer for Traditional muslims,https//docs.google.com/open?id=0BwFbhXgE0EorLUhwU0N2N3k3bjg

        You can Watch me in my messenger work in austin Texas

        Submission Messenger- Austin TX Episode #1http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_q9LwowVYY

        Submission Messenger- Austin TX Episode #4http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZhLtc65OM

        Spreading God's Message of the Quranhttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBu21Ui5peM

        Salaamun-Alaykum.

        I watched your videos. I'm amazed with the work you're doing. It's great whenever you are preaching God's message, you do it with God's teachings and in nicely way. I wish I was a brave enough and make Youtube videos like that to preach God's message. May Allah reward you with the good work you're doing, brother. Keep up the good work. One day, lots of people will wake up after watching your vidoes, God willing. yay

        Peace.

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          Sunnah-hero
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          Salaamun-Alaykum.

          I watched your videos. I'm amazed with the work you're doing. It's great whenever you are preaching God's message, you do it with God's teachings and in nicely way. I wish I was a brave enough and make Youtube videos like that to preach God's message. May Allah reward you with the good work you're doing, brother. Keep up the good work. One day, lots of people will wake up after watching your vidoes, God willing. yay

          Peace.

          Yes I have also just finished checking his video. This guy is an awesome fresh and brave guy who makes great videos. I liked that he makes videos both for the English and Arabic audience.. I could hear from his accent that he is Egyptian (because I use to watch Egyptian TV and movies) and he is a great alternative to the traditional Egyptian extreme Sunni preachers.

          Well yousef I am thinking about writing a we page about our message ... I have a very strong Spanish accent when I speak English so I don't think I am suitable to make videos.. People would eventually give more attention to my Spanish accent than to what I say

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            mmkhan
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            there are actually three versions of this sermon cited in the Hadith books

            1. First version
              "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Family?.
              (Al-Tirmidhi 6143; Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319)
            2. Second version
              "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Sunnah".
              (Muwatta Book 46.1.3
            3. Third version
              "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided, The Book of God"
              (Sahih Muslim Book 7, Number 2803; Muslim 15/19/1218; Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905).

            The Shia Muslims would accept the First Version
            The Sunni Muslims would accept the Second Version
            We Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone would accept the Third Version, because again, the Quran is Fully Detailed (6114) Not missing Anything (63 and it explains and clarifies Everything (12111,1689).

            Salaam Youssef,

            I am aware of that all bro. I was not talking about that but I saw the same line that I wrote some where on this forum or in signature of a member. It is like this... P

            O People! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray The Book of Allah (Quran) and my Sunnah. (Sahih Al-Bukhari)

            May Allah bless you,
            mmKhan

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              One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

              Interesting question. I am doing my dissertation on this at the moment. I can send it to you when I finish, if you like.

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                One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

                Remenber when you see a very radical religious person is because in truth that person does not really believe in God, it is the worst hypocrite. Mattew 2311 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

                A way to see verse 2217 is that the enemies of Muslims will never stop until they make muslims reject, repudiate, disown,apostatize their religion/law/system. So what better way than to destroy it from within using the most hypocrite Muslims as the promoters of the new ideas, putting so much weight on the shoulders of Muslims until they repudiate their religion.

                Some words atributed to Pophet Jesus, (parentesis mine)Mattew 234-7
                4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues(mosques),7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called by men, Rabbi, Rabbi (iman, sheik, ulama).

                Qur' an ASAD 2185 ......God wills that you shall have ease, and does not will you to suffer hardship;......
                Quran Yusuf ali 2185....... God intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties......

                When The British conquered the middle east in the late 1800 (sorry if I am wrong) 1'st world war was between Germany and Britain for control of oil in middle east. Anyway , they thought carefully about who to put in power in each of the new countries they formed and named. Guess who they put. the most hypocrite people that they could find. As Example Arabia. don't take my word for it Read.

                997 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Apostle But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
                Al-aAArabu ashaddu kufran wanifaqanwaajdaru alla yaAAlamoo hudooda ma anzalaAllahu AAala rasoolihi waAllahuAAaleemun hakeemun

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                  About the issue of women
                  I still can't understand how somebody can hate women; thought I have never feel hate for anybody; not even in my worst nightmares I have been feeling hate for women. For me that just sounds impossible, they bear us with hardship, they feed us, they raise us, etc. To me they look like something fragile that should be handled with care and love (I know, I know there are tough/strong women, and that they are not different than men except in the flesh, this is just to explain why I can never feel hate toward them). Hating women is like hating your own mother and your sisters, that is a horrible disease of the heart.

                  I feel sad when women are led astray and misuse by society, leading them astray by their own vanity. but not all the blame is on one side only. Read this Suna Hero you say you are from Spain I am from Mex.
                  english translation at the end
                  translations of poems are not the same; but here translator did a good job.

                  Hombres necios que acus?is a la mujer sin raz?n de Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)

                  Hombres necios que acus?is
                  a la mujer sin raz?n,
                  sin ver que sois la ocasi?n
                  de lo mismo que culp?is

                  si con ansia sin igual
                  solicit?is su desd?n,
                  ?por qu? quer?is que obren bien
                  si la incit?is al mal?

                  Cambat?s su resistencia
                  y luego, con gravedad,
                  dec?s que fue liviandad
                  lo que hizo la diligencia.

                  Parecer quiere el denuedo
                  de vuestro parecer loco
                  el ni?o que pone el coco
                  y luego le tiene miedo.

                  Quer?is, con presunci?n necia,
                  hallar a la que busc?is,
                  para pretendida, Thais,
                  y en la posesi?n, Lucrecia.

                  ?Qu? humor puede ser m?s raro
                  que el que, falto de consejo,
                  ?l mismo empa?a el espejo,
                  y siente que no est? claro?

                  Con el favor y desd?n
                  ten?is condici?n igual,
                  quej?ndoos, si os tratan mal,
                  burl?ndoos, si os quieren bien.

                  Siempre tan necios and?is
                  que, con desigual nivel,
                  a una culp?is por cr?el
                  y a otra por f?cil culp?is.

                  ?Pues como ha de estar templada
                  la que vuestro amor pretende,
                  si la que es ingrata, ofende,
                  y la que es f?cil, enfada?

                  Mas, entre el enfado y pena
                  que vuestro gusto refiere,
                  bien haya la que no os quiere
                  y quejaos en hora buena.

                  Dan vuestras amantes penas
                  a sus libertades alas,
                  y despu?s de hacerlas malas
                  las quer?is hallar muy buenas.

                  ?Cu?l mayor culpa ha tenido
                  en una pasi?n errada
                  la que cae de rogada,
                  o el que ruega de ca?do?

                  ?O cu?l es m?s de culpar,
                  aunque cualquiera mal haga
                  la que peca por la paga,
                  o el que paga por pecar?

                  Pues ?para qu? os espant?is
                  de la culpa que ten?is?
                  Queredlas cual las hac?is
                  o hacedlas cual las busc?is.

                  Dejad de solicitar,
                  y despu?s, con m?s raz?n,
                  acusar?is la afici?n
                  de la que os fuere a rogar.

                  Bien con muchas armas fundo
                  que lidia vuestra arrogancia,
                  pues en promesa e instancia
                  junt?is diablo, carne y mundo.

                  (English)

                  stubborn men that accuse women withouth reason. From Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)
                  Silly, you men-so very adept
                  at wrongly faulting womankind,
                  not seeing you're alone to blame
                  for faults you plant in woman's mind.

                  After you've won by urgent plea
                  the right to tarnish her good name,
                  you still expect her to behave?
                  you, that coaxed her into shame.

                  You batter her resistance down
                  and then, all righteousness, proclaim
                  that feminine frivolity,
                  not your persistence, is to blame.

                  When it comes to bravely posturing,
                  your witlessness must take the prize
                  you're the child that makes a bogeyman,
                  and then recoils in fear and cries.

                  Presumptuous beyond belief,
                  you'd have the woman you pursue
                  be Thais when you're courting her,
                  Lucretia once she falls to you.

                  For plain default of common sense,
                  could any action be so queer
                  as oneself to cloud the mirror,
                  then complain that it's not clear?

                  Whether you're favored or disdained,
                  nothing can leave you satisfied.
                  You whimper if you're turned away,
                  you sneer if you've been gratified.

                  With you, no woman can hope to score;
                  whichever way, she's bound to lose;
                  spurning you, she's ungrateful?
                  succumbing, you call her lewd.

                  Your folly is always the same
                  you apply a single rule
                  to the one you accuse of looseness
                  and the one you brand as cruel.

                  What happy mean could there be
                  for the woman who catches your eye,
                  if, unresponsive, she offends,
                  yet whose complaisance you decry?

                  Still, whether it's torment or anger?
                  and both ways you've yourselves to blame?
                  God bless the woman who won't have you,
                  no matter how loud you complain.

                  It's your persistent entreaties
                  that change her from timid to bold.
                  Having made her thereby naughty,
                  you would have her good as gold.

                  So where does the greater guilt lie
                  for a passion that should not be
                  with the man who pleads out of baseness
                  or the woman debased by his plea?

                  Or which is more to be blamed?
                  though both will have cause for chagrin
                  the woman who sins for money
                  or the man who pays money to sin?

                  So why are you men all so stunned
                  at the thought you're all guilty alike?
                  Either like them for what you've made them
                  or make of them what you can like.

                  If you'd give up pursuing them,
                  you'd discover, without a doubt,
                  you've a stronger case to make
                  against those who seek you out.

                  I well know what powerful arms
                  you wield in pressing for evil
                  your arrogance is allied
                  with the world, the flesh, and the devil!

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                    Ayisha
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                    When The British conquered the middle east in the late 1800 (sorry if I am wrong) 1'st world war was between Germany and Britain for control of oil in middle east. Anyway , they thought carefully about who to put in power in each of the new countries they formed and named. Guess who they put. the most hypocrite people that they could find. As Example Arabia. don't take my word for it Read.

                    o a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace

                    997 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Apostle But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
                    Al-aAArabu ashaddu kufran wanifaqanwaajdaru alla yaAAlamoo hudooda ma anzalaAllahu AAala rasoolihi waAllahuAAaleemun hakeemun

                    Always wondered why that is translated this way when they Arabic just says 'the Arabs' ???

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                      a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace

                      From my experience, because, they want to emulate the Arabs.

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                        o a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace

                        Sorry AYISHA if you don't know your own history the counties you know now did'n exist before the fall of the ottoman empire 18/19 century.

                        Naming the Arabs was just an example to portrait the image of the feed licking monarchies and dictators own by the west; most middle eastern muslims are westerners wannabes pakistanies are no different, so their hypocrite rulers put weight on their shoulder with their stupid laws in order to accelerate the process of self destroying islam. And if you tell them that they are corrupting the land, they will answer that they are only making things better.

                        Name a country in the middle east that its people is not wishing to be like the west and have what the west has, or be their allies/friends . though God says in the Qura'n that god will beautify the life of his enemies and forbids the muslim from desiring what he will give them. And God forbids the muslims from becoming allies of the unbelievers and helping them to kill their own brothers. Name one country.

                        True piety is not to prostrate to the east or to the west, but true piety is to obey the laws of the omnipotent, supreme ruler, creator of all that exist.

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                          wow That is a great story there. Welcome brother. And don't feel embarrassed, you're only human after all, just like the rest of us, yeah? And now that you're on the right path, you can repent to God for your mistakes and keep holding firmly to your beliefs, let go of the past and move on forward, focus on your future. D God truly does guide people who seek the truth, like you did.

                          Peace.

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                            Indelwyn
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                            Sunnah Hero,

                            So happy to read your story. I was wondering what happened with you, Alhamdulillah you are okay. I did keep you in thought and prayer. Happy you are back

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                              mubashir55
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                              One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

                              Interesting question. I am doing my dissertation on this at the moment. I can send it to you when I finish, if you like.

                              Salam,

                              We would love to read the result of your work. Please do share it with us when you have finished.

                              Thanks.

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                                Bigmo
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                                From my experience, because, they want to emulate the Arabs.

                                Identity crisis maybe? Not able to be British they look for an identity that seperates them from the British. Also many have lost link with their cultural Islam so they follow the fiqh more. And last its also Saudi influence and wahhabism in the UK.

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                                  PixelAngelBaby
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                                  Salam Aleykom!

                                  What a coincidence. I was just reading some of your old pro-sunnism posts the other day...masha Allah. amazing how someone can change. I'm very curious to know what Student of Allah told you that convinced you, so I will sort through your posts and find out (I think it could be of great reference for when talking to my sunni friends).

                                  I'm not going to say Congrats on finally finding the right path! Because I'd feel sort of self righteous, and I'm constantly ignorant of my "path" status with Allah. I'm always hoping I'm being guided and that I'm on the right path. I feel like if I had been wrong before, maybe I could be wrong again. Who knows. But for now I feel sound, al hamdulilah ).

                                  But I want to congratulate you on your own personal spiritual evolution! And I'm happy you were at least able to see things from a different perspective and break free from all the dogma and culture around you. hurray!!

                                  May Allah guide us all, Always!
                                  Welcome, Bro!

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