ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums
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Here I thought one could draw straight lines on anything and everything had one the inclination...obviously there is some important reason why A Clean Blank Paper is highlighted as opposed to missing the lines .
Yup
one is supposed to read inbetween.
First you have to draw a line ;D
And the reason home city is highlighted in red is because...? They don't have A Clean Blank Paper?Brilliant
Red is for those who are signing on from their home city. Now you have to read between the colours.
It's reverse psychology of course. .
No its free-mind.
hmm indeed, I likey
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@good logic
Thank you for quoting the verses.
i don't want people to lose sight of what al-Amyr is claiming. Someone in his defense asked me in the other thread how do I know that God didn't guide al-Amyr. Ok al-Amyr did not come up with this discovery or knowledge. He claimed that it come from prophet Muhammed. This is what he wants us to believe. Although he did not come out and say it, basically the deduction is that God revealed this knowledge to prophet Muhammed. How else could prophet have gotten this knowledge? On his own? No.
Some fundamental truths The Koran is not the words of Muhammed. It is the revelation from God. They are the words of God. Whatever God revealed, it is all there in the Koran. It is complete. So to believe in Al-almyr claims is a rejection of the koran. To say that God revealed this knowledge to Muhammed who kept it a secret is a blatant lie. The Koran is clear about fabricating lies about God. Not only that, his claims then leads to questioning the integrity of the prophet and God. What else did God reveal to prophet that we don't know about and did God lie to us? What else did prophet Muhammed keep away from us?
Al-amyrs claims about this "guidance" is clearly not supported by the Koran. I don't care how fantastic this knowledge is and fully agreeing with the Koran. It could be mind boggling. I reject all lies told about God and the prophet!! Why would I want to listen to someone telling lies about God and prophet Muhammed?
I am sure there will be those who will believe all that al-Amyr says thinking they are guided and so enlightened by his knowledge. They will be astonished. Moved to tears. And much more than that.
Clearly it will not be me!
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@good logic
Thank you for quoting the verses.
i don't want people to lose sight of what al-Amyr is claiming. Someone in his defense asked me in the other thread how do I know that God didn't guide al-Amyr. Ok al-Amyr did not come up with this discovery or knowledge. He claimed that it come from prophet Muhammed. This is what he wants us to believe. Although he did not come out and say it, basically the deduction is that God revealed this knowledge to prophet Muhammed. How else could prophet have gotten this knowledge? On his own? No.
Some fundamental truths The Koran is not the words of Muhammed. It is the revelation from God. They are the words of God. Whatever God revealed, it is all there in the Koran. It is complete. So to believe in Al-almyr claims is a rejection of the koran. To say that God revealed this knowledge to Muhammed who kept it a secret is a blatant lie. The Koran is clear about fabricating lies about God. Not only that, his claims then leads to questioning the integrity of the prophet and God. What else did God reveal to prophet that we don't know about and did God lie to us? What else did prophet Muhammed keep away from us?
Al-amyrs claims about this "guidance" is clearly not supported by the Koran. I don't care how fantastic this knowledge is and fully agreeing with the Koran. It could be mind boggling. I reject all lies told about God and the prophet!! Why would I want to listen to someone telling lies about God and prophet Muhammed?
I am sure there will be those who will believe all that al-Amyr says thinking they are guided and so enlightened by his knowledge. They will be astonished. Moved to tears. And much more than that.
Clearly it will not be me!
Pay heed to the following warning from ALLAAH in His Qur'aan.
Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right -
them will I turn away from My signs
Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them;
and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way;
but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt.
For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them.Continue with your mockery!
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Al-Amyr opened up several threads in this section/category. If he comes here starts threads and makes claim then he should be prepared for questioning as this forum is for discussion, evaluation, questioning, etc. So al-amyr or someone else can come on this forum writing whatever and we are all supposed to be like good little children keeping quiet and let him say whatever? I don't think so.
al-amyr has been going on for how long now? He is on post 14? How long before post 20? While he opens up thread here and there and drags this one for another month, we are all supposed to sit and let him say whatever till he finishes. Not me.
Shouldn't al-amyr focus and finish doing what he said he would do by today instead of opening up threads like this one about how satan works on world forums? What was his point? He opened up this thread which he said he has done in other forums - implication being what? People delaying him, banning him for doing what he is trying to do. He has used the words of God from the Koran and what do you call when you use the words of God to serve your purpose? And you all expect me to sit here and keep quiet? Sorry, not happening.
Listen Al-amyr, if you have some knowledge then why not just share the knowledge. Simple. Why don't you stop lamenting, stop with all this flowery words, lamenting about how you have been banned on other forums, etc and get to your points. Stop blaming others for supposedly delaying you from doing what you want to do. people have asked you to get to your points but YOU have dragged this long.
You said that you have been in other Sunni and shia forums, You have been doing this for a year now. You said in your introduction that you were on a forum for a month and had no response or something like that. You have been here for almost a month now and yet to finish posting like you said What is taking you so long? And why are you blaming others? And satan?
By the way, satan has no power. He gets his power from people. At the end, satan will say hey don't blame me for what you did. I remember reading a verse like that in the Koran. So i suggest taking responsibility for your own actions.
You said that that this knowledge has been passed down through the generations and your family has taught this to others. So it is not like "satan" is all frantically trying to stop or delay you. If you have this knowledge and have been on the forums all this year, why did it take you 70 hours to finish post 14?
also shouldn't you be all prepared before you go public with this knowledge. If you are ill prepared, don't blame others. The blame is on you. Again you have been on other forums and have had this knowledge. You have had the experience.
I don't know what people are complaining about letting him finish. Ok again this is a forum for questions and discussions, not for someone to come and minister to people dragging on and on. Who is stopping him from creating his own website or book or just coming here and posting all of his 20 posts? If anything people have been asking him to get to it.
For all those who are waiting for this knowledge, I am not stopping you from personally contacting al-Amyr. Farida has been sending him personal messages. And I believe al-Amyr mentioned about 7 members or something like that sending him personal messages and communicating. May be if you guys quit doing that, then he can finish his postings! I don't know what you guys are all worried about. You all can contact him, call him,meet with him outside of this forum. If al-Amyr is sick and dying, well he said that there are others who he has taught this knowledge to and I am sure al-Amyr and others would not act so irresponsibly to let this knowledge be destroyed. It has been kept in his family for 44 generations and surely, he has passed it on to the next and also others have been taught this knowledge who would be more than happy to teach this knowledge to whoever needs it. I am sure al-Amyr would not be so irresponsible to let you all live in darkness because of people like me. If he is in ailing health, I am sure he can connect you guys who want to learn, with someone who he has taught his lessons to possessing the knowledge. Those who learn this knowledge can then take it globally disseminating the info as Internet reaches wide audiences these days. No one is stopping you guys.
I don't understand what all this near hysteria is about. Again, let me make myself clear to all the supporters of al-Amyr. I am not stopping al-Amyr from teaching his lessons. He can give private lessons but if you all want him doing it here on the forum, you can ask the administrators which I did to create a section for him to minister to you all without interruption. Or why don't you all move the thread to miscellaneous? Al-amyrs posts don't belong in this section. What general issue or questions is he bringing up here in this category?
This forum is for discussion, questions, expressing thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Unless you all want to change that. Time to time, I get emails from Muslims living in the closet and I tell them hey, you are not alone and refer them here. I really hesitated couple of days ago referring someone here.
By the way, al-Amyr if there is anything you want to say to me, don't send me personal messages. Say it here in the forum. I address you here and so can you.
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Continue with your mockery!
Like I said, I don't have a veil over my eyes. I know all too well how satan works. Using the words of God to instill fear - not going to work with me. Nice try though.
You can fool others and I am sure you will take followers with you from here on this forum and else where. Happens all the time.
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By the way, al-Amyr if there is anything you want to say to me, don't send me personal messages. Say it here in the forum. I address you here and so can you.
Please don't insinuate that I have sent you any PMs. I don't have private communications with the raw and uncouth.
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Like I said, I don't have a veil over my eyes. I know all too well how satan works. Using the words of God to instill fear - not going to work with me. Nice try though.
You can fool others and I am sure you will take followers with you from here on this forum and else where. Happens all the time.
You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.
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Please don't insinuate that I have sent you any PMs. I don't have private communications with the raw and uncouth.
And what makes me raw and uncouth - may I ask?
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You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.
How am I misguided? Can you please explain. And what attention am I looking for?
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How am I misguided? Can you please explain. And what attention am I looking for?
You remind me of this lady.
There was a young lady of Riga
Who smiled as she rode on the back of a tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the tiger -
You remind me of this lady.
There was a young lady of Riga
Who smiled as she rode on the back of a tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the tiger- why do I remind of this lady?
- and can you provide me with the reference? Thanks
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You seem unrefined.
Again al-Amyr, you say that I am raw, uncouth and unrefined. But can you explain what makes me raw, uncouth and unrefined? You are saying all these things about me but can you explain.
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Have you ever read the Qur'aan and do you believe in it?
Yes, I have. And yes, I do.
But you didn't answer...how am I misguided? Could you please explain
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Al-Amyr, you made the claim that this knowledge you have which will astonish people is not your own but of prophet Muhammed who kept it a secret and this secret has been passed from one generation to the next. Basically what you are saying is that God gave this knowledge to prophet Muhammed who kept it a secret.
This claim is a lie when held up to the Koran. Instead of calling me raw, uncouth, unrefined, etc, could you please put aside your opinion of me and address this.
Also can you tell me the name of the son of the prophet Muhammed again who the prophet taught this knowledge to? Thanks.
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You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.
Again, you allege that I am only looking for attention but you didn't explain. Again what attention am I looking for?
I like you to address your claim about prophet Muhammed having kept this knowledge a secret which according to the Koran - per God (not me) is a blatant lie.
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Al-Amyr opened up several threads in this section/category. If he comes here starts threads and makes claim then he should be prepared for questioning as this forum is for discussion, evaluation, questioning, etc. So al-amyr or someone else can come on this forum writing whatever and we are all supposed to be like good little children keeping quiet and let him say whatever? I don't think so.
Who said you're supposed to keep quiet and let him say whatever? People have always responded to threads with different opinions long as this forum's been around.
al-amyr has been going on for how long now? He is on post 14? How long before post 20? While he opens up thread here and there and drags this one for another month, we are all supposed to sit and let him say whatever till he finishes. Not me.
No one's stopping you from saying something till he finishes. You could take a stand as opposed to sitting which you've done.Shouldn't al-amyr focus and finish doing what he said he would do by today instead of opening up threads like this one about how satan works on world forums? What was his point? He opened up this thread which he said he has done in other forums - implication being what? People delaying him, banning him for doing what he is trying to do. He has used the words of God from the Koran and what do you call when you use the words of God to serve your purpose? And you all expect me to sit here and keep quiet? Sorry, not happening.
Who's expecting you to keep quiet? I mean you keep saying this...and I don't get why. Is this guy being allowed to post and everyone else has been sworn to silence? I don't see the latter in effect or enforced, do you?I don't know what people are complaining about letting him finish. Ok again this is a forum for questions and discussions, not for someone to come and minister to people dragging on and on. Who is stopping him from creating his own website or book or just coming here and posting all of his 20 posts? If anything people have been asking him to get to it.
Look, I understand your point of view, in fact a lot of other people here also understand and share your point of view or will had they read the threads. They might not join the 'run the conman outta town' movement yet, but eventually they will. Some of the reasons may be...not trying to make it into a martyr situation, seeing if post 20 actually comes in this lifetime, having completed a treasure hunt for geometry boxes and A CLEAN BLANK PAPER! and now awaiting their prize, not bothered with yet another claimant to secret surprises, being entertained by the drama and not wanting it to end before they've had their fill, not having read the threads, letting it run it's course until something snaps...who knows. Like I said, if this drags on, which it probably will...we'll address the situation.I don't understand what all this near hysteria is about. Again, let me make myself clear to all the supporters of al-Amyr. I am not stopping al-Amyr from teaching his lessons. He can give private lessons but if you all want him doing it here on the forum, you can ask the administrators which I did to create a section for him to minister to you all without interruption. Or why don't you all move the thread to miscellaneous? Al-amyrs posts don't belong in this section. What general issue or questions is he bringing up here in this category?
Did I miss the near hysteria? Where was this? And who are the supporters of this guy anyways? If we take away the new accounts which shouldn't even be counted due to reasons explained...you're left with? One? 1.5? No one's stopping you from posting on his threads once again. Tell him like it is. In fact, post daily or 12 hourly or whatever about post 20, his ridiculous claims, his tardiness, his lame limericks and so on.This forum is for discussion, questions, expressing thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Unless you all want to change that. Time to time, I get emails from Muslims living in the closet and I tell them hey, you are not alone and refer them here. I really hesitated couple of days ago referring someone here.
Who wants to change that? Calm down. It's not the end of the world, yet. -
Peace s.c., brothers and sisters.
We must now be used to the fact that " Anti- virus" must be updated to keep working.
Time and again we seem to be fighting the same virus, when it changes into a different virus and attacks again.
Brother Savage is right. Our " Anti-virus" will work if we are fair.
We must trust in God Alone and persevere.
Peace and a joyful new year to all.
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Exactly, GL.
May all our years be peaceful and joyous