ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums

al-amiyr

By the way, al-Amyr if there is anything you want to say to me, don't send me personal messages. Say it here in the forum. I address you here and so can you.

Please don't insinuate that I have sent you any PMs. I don't have private communications with the raw and uncouth.

al-amiyr

Like I said, I don't have a veil over my eyes. I know all too well how satan works. Using the words of God to instill fear - not going to work with me. Nice try though.

You can fool others and I am sure you will take followers with you from here on this forum and else where. Happens all the time.

You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.

justamuslim

Please don't insinuate that I have sent you any PMs. I don't have private communications with the raw and uncouth.

And what makes me raw and uncouth - may I ask?

justamuslim

You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.

How am I misguided? Can you please explain. And what attention am I looking for?

al-amiyr

And what makes me raw and uncouth - may I ask?

You seem unrefined.

al-amiyr

How am I misguided? Can you please explain. And what attention am I looking for?

Have you ever read the Qur'aan and do you believe in it?

al-amiyr

How am I misguided? Can you please explain. And what attention am I looking for?

You remind me of this lady.

There was a young lady of Riga
Who smiled as she rode on the back of a tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the tiger

justamuslim

You remind me of this lady.

There was a young lady of Riga
Who smiled as she rode on the back of a tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the tiger

why do I remind of this lady?
and can you provide me with the reference? Thanks

justamuslim

You seem unrefined.

Again al-Amyr, you say that I am raw, uncouth and unrefined. But can you explain what makes me raw, uncouth and unrefined? You are saying all these things about me but can you explain.

justamuslim

Have you ever read the Qur'aan and do you believe in it?

Yes, I have. And yes, I do.

But you didn't answer...how am I misguided? Could you please explain

justamuslim

Al-Amyr, you made the claim that this knowledge you have which will astonish people is not your own but of prophet Muhammed who kept it a secret and this secret has been passed from one generation to the next. Basically what you are saying is that God gave this knowledge to prophet Muhammed who kept it a secret.

This claim is a lie when held up to the Koran. Instead of calling me raw, uncouth, unrefined, etc, could you please put aside your opinion of me and address this.

Also can you tell me the name of the son of the prophet Muhammed again who the prophet taught this knowledge to? Thanks.

justamuslim

You are completely misguided and only looking for attention.

Again, you allege that I am only looking for attention but you didn't explain. Again what attention am I looking for?

I like you to address your claim about prophet Muhammed having kept this knowledge a secret which according to the Koran - per God (not me) is a blatant lie.

savage_carrot

@savage_carrot

Al-Amyr opened up several threads in this section/category. If he comes here starts threads and makes claim then he should be prepared for questioning as this forum is for discussion, evaluation, questioning, etc. So al-amyr or someone else can come on this forum writing whatever and we are all supposed to be like good little children keeping quiet and let him say whatever? I don't think so.

Who said you're supposed to keep quiet and let him say whatever? People have always responded to threads with different opinions long as this forum's been around.

al-amyr has been going on for how long now? He is on post 14? How long before post 20? While he opens up thread here and there and drags this one for another month, we are all supposed to sit and let him say whatever till he finishes. Not me.
No one's stopping you from saying something till he finishes. You could take a stand as opposed to sitting which you've done.

Shouldn't al-amyr focus and finish doing what he said he would do by today instead of opening up threads like this one about how satan works on world forums? What was his point? He opened up this thread which he said he has done in other forums - implication being what? People delaying him, banning him for doing what he is trying to do. He has used the words of God from the Koran and what do you call when you use the words of God to serve your purpose? And you all expect me to sit here and keep quiet? Sorry, not happening.
Who's expecting you to keep quiet? I mean you keep saying this...and I don't get why. Is this guy being allowed to post and everyone else has been sworn to silence? I don't see the latter in effect or enforced, do you?

I don't know what people are complaining about letting him finish. Ok again this is a forum for questions and discussions, not for someone to come and minister to people dragging on and on. Who is stopping him from creating his own website or book or just coming here and posting all of his 20 posts? If anything people have been asking him to get to it.
Look, I understand your point of view, in fact a lot of other people here also understand and share your point of view or will had they read the threads. They might not join the 'run the conman outta town' movement yet, but eventually they will. Some of the reasons may be...not trying to make it into a martyr situation, seeing if post 20 actually comes in this lifetime, having completed a treasure hunt for geometry boxes and A CLEAN BLANK PAPER! and now awaiting their prize, not bothered with yet another claimant to secret surprises, being entertained by the drama and not wanting it to end before they've had their fill, not having read the threads, letting it run it's course until something snaps...who knows. Like I said, if this drags on, which it probably will...we'll address the situation.

I don't understand what all this near hysteria is about. Again, let me make myself clear to all the supporters of al-Amyr. I am not stopping al-Amyr from teaching his lessons. He can give private lessons but if you all want him doing it here on the forum, you can ask the administrators which I did to create a section for him to minister to you all without interruption. Or why don't you all move the thread to miscellaneous? Al-amyrs posts don't belong in this section. What general issue or questions is he bringing up here in this category?
Did I miss the near hysteria? Where was this? And who are the supporters of this guy anyways? If we take away the new accounts which shouldn't even be counted due to reasons explained...you're left with? One? 1.5? No one's stopping you from posting on his threads once again. Tell him like it is. In fact, post daily or 12 hourly or whatever about post 20, his ridiculous claims, his tardiness, his lame limericks and so on.

This forum is for discussion, questions, expressing thoughts, views, opinions, etc. Unless you all want to change that. Time to time, I get emails from Muslims living in the closet and I tell them hey, you are not alone and refer them here. I really hesitated couple of days ago referring someone here.
Who wants to change that? Calm down. It's not the end of the world, yet.

good_logic

Peace s.c., brothers and sisters.

We must now be used to the fact that " Anti- virus" must be updated to keep working.

Time and again we seem to be fighting the same virus, when it changes into a different virus and attacks again.

Brother Savage is right. Our " Anti-virus" will work if we are fair.

We must trust in God Alone and persevere.

Peace and a joyful new year to all.

savage_carrot

Exactly, GL.

May all our years be peaceful and joyous

al-amiyr

Yes, I have. And yes, I do.

But you didn't answer...how am I misguided? Could you please explain

Because you seem to deny that the prophet(S+) received two Books from ALLAAH. The One called The Book (al-kitaab) and the other called The Reading/Recitation (al-qur'aan). That is why I said that you are misguided based upon the reading of all your words you said thus far in this forum that I have read.

al-amiyr

Peace s.c., brothers and sisters.

We must now be used to the fact that " Anti- virus" must be updated to keep working.

Time and again we seem to be fighting the same virus, when it changes into a different virus and attacks again.

Brother Savage is right. Our " Anti-virus" will work if we are fair.

We must trust in God Alone and persevere.

Peace and a joyful new year to all.

Peace

And I agree. Only losers fight and try to destroy others from expressing their views. Truly falsehood will perish in the presence of truth. Is it not?

Peace

justamuslim

@savage carrot.

Thanks for your post. I will do just that. I know there are lurkers here who are reading.

al-amiyr

Instead of calling me raw, uncouth, unrefined, etc, could you please put aside your opinion of me and address this.

Then don't be cunning to post insinuations that I send Pms to you which I never did. And then act in a decent manner when speaking. Then ask me one or two questions at a time instead of rambling off a dozen which will require full explanations. And don't make derogatory remarks when addressing the issue. Play the ball and not the man. Then I will address all your issues and know that you are not an agent of some Madtrix inshaa allaah.

farida

Exactly, GL.

May all our years be peaceful and joyous )

o