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Thanks as I just did the search. Al-Amyr claimed that he didn't know why he was banned. May be this will refresh his memory and for others to know
Yefet
10-25-2012, 0200 PM
When I suggested you start your own blog instead of Copy/paste I had no idea you were posting a book complete with charts and graphs. you did ask and I will allow this time but I can assure you the average member here is not going to bother reading, if the wanted they could just read a book or attend a lecture and is against the nature of a discussion forum
any further long posts will have to be edited and or deletedThe website address is http//www.religionforums.org/archive/index.php/thread-7703.html
Exposition Of Lies
Your claim; Thanks as I just did the search. Al-Amyr claimed that he didn't know why he was banned. May be this will refresh his memory and for others to know
Liars will always try to deceive. They cannot take on my knowledge so they resort to other methods to turn the innocent and unwary against me. If they did not do this then they will forever remain useless. This is now a campaign started to divert me from presenting the aayaat (symbols) of ALLAAH. It sometimes becomes necessary for me to respond. But I am happy for this because it all gets recorded in the history of making known the Book (al-kitaab).
Lie One Your first lie that I will expose.
I was not banned on that forum. I am still a member. But they have limited rules as to posting large content like graphs and charts. They are a non Muslim forum and would not allow you or any one else to do the same. When I joined their forum I was not aware of all these rules which were not clearly set out. They were the only forum that I joined who had such rules.
Why do you say that they banned me? Another lie of a deceptive incompetent liar. Do you want me to post something in that forum right now to prove that you are a liar.
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Peace al-amiyr.
Why not set up your own website for your lessons/book.. plus large content of graphs and charts...etc, then post a link to them?
This is a discussion forum. What do you think happens if everyone decided to publish/post their book/s in this forum?
To claim you are not aware of the rules is a weak excuse?
Look how long it has taken you to post the introduction? I do not know what game you are playing? If you claim you have something useful, then let us hear it and be done with it .
Peace.
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Lie One Your first lie that I will expose.
I was not banned on that forum. I am still a member. But they have limited rules as to posting large content like graphs and charts. They are a non Muslim forum and would not allow you or any one else to do the same. When I joined their forum I was not aware of all these rules which were not clearly set out. They were the only forum that I joined who had such rules.
Why do you say that they banned me? Another lie of a deceptive incompetent liar. Do you want me to post something in that forum right now to prove that you are a liar.
You were banned from posting your knowledge were you not? Why don't you post these lessons there right now and prove to us that you were not banned for disseminating your knowledge? Go ahead and prove it.
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This whole thread is complete nonsense. As I am reading this I keep on thinking to myself this is NUTS, completely NUTS.
Anyone who has any common sense will realize that Muslims ought to stay far, far away from this kind of stuff. Just like summoning a jinn isn't technically haram, you'd have to be insane not to know that you should stay as far away as possible from that type of stuff.
I'm not going to list every single argument against listening to al-amiyr, but for one, do you really think that if what he is saying is true and legit he would be telling people on an obscure internet forum. Come on, do you people have no common sense to see that this is complete rubbish.
To be honest, this is verging on kufr. Al-amiyr is saying things about which he has no knowledge about Allah amongst other things.
Once again, I ask the righteous Muslims to stay away from this as al-amiyr willingly or unwillingly is leading you astray.
Fear Allah and do not carry on reading this thread.
Allah says ?O you who believe! Fear Allah as He ought to be feared [ S?rah ?l `Imr?n 102
May Allah protect all of us from evil. May Allah destroy the enemies of Islam. May Allah bring us all back to the straight path.
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You were banned from posting your knowledge were you not? Why don't you post these lessons there right now and prove to us that you were not banned for disseminating your knowledge? Go ahead and prove it.
im just wondering why you are in a hurry.
Tell me, What you are worried about ?
please take a deep breath and relax.
i think things will be clear in a matter of few days,so please be patient.
Sometimes things aren't clear right away. That's where you need to be patient and persevere and see where things lead.
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Liars will always try to deceive. They cannot take on my knowledge so they resort to other methods to turn the innocent and unwary against me. If they did not do this then they will forever remain useless. This is now a campaign started to divert me from presenting the aayaat (symbols) of ALLAAH. It sometimes becomes necessary for me to respond. But I am happy for this because it all gets recorded in the history of making known the Book (al-kitaab).
Another lie of a deceptive incompetent liar.
Al-Amiyr, let me make myself clear. I am not turning the innocent and unwary against you. Or have started any campaign to divert you from presenting your symbols of Allah. Why do you keep saying that or feeling that?
I want to know and all others to get to know you. Why don't you answer my questions in the thread that I opened up. I think if you did, more people will be interested and will provide more credibility to what you are saying. I have asked as has good logic and others, as well as this guy on this other forum did why don't you create a link. Obviously you have been on other forums posting and so why not just cut and paste. I am sure you can do that in few minutes.
You need to understand and from reading other posts in the forum, should know by now that we discuss, debate, question pretty much everything and anything.
I ask that you please stop listening to satan telling you that I have started a campaign against you.
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im just wondering why you are in a hurry.
Tell me, What you are worried about ?
please take a deep breath and relax.
i think things will be clear in a matter of few days,so please be patient.
Sometimes things aren't clear right away. That's where you need to be patient and persevere and see where things lead.
Mary PierceMary, I am not worried about anything. Trust me on that.
Things were obvious and apparent for me from the very start.
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Peace al-amiyr,
Sorry to interfere, but people are right, even if they could be nicer though. Those are posts more appropriate for a book rather than on a forum. I think a forum is better to reflect upon brief ideas than feeding people with an overwhelming amount of text, especially when the topic is so complex. Better write a book and refer to it using quotes, and ask what people what they think about it.
If you want to articulate yourself on a forum, in the best way, it should be very coherent and brief.
It was just my opinion though.
May God lead the way.
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@al-Amiyr.
You called me a 'deceptive incompetent liar'. You are saying all kinds of things about me - raw, uncouth, unrefined, incompetent. But why? Why are you putting me down like this? Why do you say that I am incompetent and what makes me incompetent?
You know that what you are doing is a form of emotional abuse. Putting someone down like you have been doing and telling me that story about this lady that I reminded you of who got eaten by the tiger, ok this is abusive.
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Mary, I am not worried about anything. Trust me on that.
Things were obvious and apparent for me from the very start.
i am not Mary,but i like her quote about patience.
You are saying that all things were obvious from the very start to you, maybe because you
are smarter than the others including me of course ,so let us wait and see what will come next
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A question to all
Does the conduct of al-amiyr seem befitting of that of a messenger who abides in the peace of God?
Keeping in mind
Noon. I swear by the pen and what the angels write,
By the grace of your Lord you are not mad.
And most surely you shall have a reward never to be cut off.
And most surely you conform (yourself) to sublime morality.Personally speaking I am not even remotely close to reaching a true level of peace within God. Yet I have no problems talking to people on a level field, I do not need to throw around accusations of satan and kufr and so and so. So how can someone who claims to know Al-Kitab, to be in touch with the depths of Nirvana altogether, how can they
a.) Respond to juvenile hecklers and give them their time, when the quran REPEATEDLY states to the messenger DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE DEAF AND BLIND
b.) Put down people left and right, go into all sorts of diatribes
c.) Not get to the point after so long, when God demands of us that we should be clear and direct in our speechSo tell me...
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Fascinating and interesting stuff. I think sceptics are premature to question al-amiyr's intention. Have patience and let al-amiyr finish his posts. Though some of his claims trouble me , I'm still intersted to read all that he wants to tell. We can and should allways fall back on quran. We should encourage new ideas , not impede or block it.
Confirmed. Please continue al-amiyr.
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Fascinating and interesting stuff. I think sceptics are premature to question al-amiyr's intention. Have patience and let al-amiyr finish his posts. Though some of his claims trouble me , I'm still intersted to read all that he wants to tell. We can and should allways fall back on quran. We should encourage new ideas , not impede or block it.
Confirmed. Please continue al-amiyr.
Thank you faruk
You have always responded like a wise man. First to listen and then to make judgement. What more can human beings expect from each other. With your manner it is easier to explore new ideas and see what is acceptable. You will not be one who will be fooled in the end of the day because you would have patiently given another a fair hearing. That is how the world advances.
Thanks again brother
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as salaam alaykum brother al-amiyr
I could not sleep very well as I have been pondering upon this section of lesson 14 Numbers that moves out he called +n and numbers that moves in He called +m. Going out means away from the right way and going in towards the b (the point of the light means going the right way.
In the diagram we see ?m and +n and it took me some time to go back to my school days and remember what it means ?negative and positive
I would request for a bit of explanation on this one.
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Salaam Bender
Here is something worth reading for you;
GentlemenThe starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is
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DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
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All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
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Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
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Let's review where we've been in this thread. I have said(1) The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code.
Much effort has been made to discredit this statement, unsuccessfully. This statement is fully and explicitly supported in virtually all of the scientific literature since the 1960s.
(2) All codes that we know the origin of come from a mind.
Much effort has been expended to discredit this statement as well. Assertions have been attempted that gravity, snowflakes, magma flows and the like are codes. But none accurately conforms to Shannon's communication model. Most of the examples cited do not contain an encoding system, and none contain a decoding system.
(3) Therefore DNA came from a mind.
The objection to this statement has been that the conclusion is reached inductively. Complaints have been lodged that inductive reasoning is inherently unreliable. But we do observe that the laws of thermodynamics and in fact the majority of known scientific laws are determined inductively and not deductively. If you wish to throw out inductive reasoning, then we can discard almost all scientific knowledge and start all over again and use rocks and sticks to make fire.
Thus we have, right here on the Infidels discussion forum, after more than 300 posts, robust evidence that life was intelligently designed.
It is not possible for me to persuade people to believe in God if they do not want to; that is not my job. But one can hope that some will follow the evidence, wherever it leads.
Perry Marshall
http//www.vina.cc/news/index.php/General/DNA-proves-the-existence-of-God.html
SalaamSalaam,
Let's just say that we disagree.
Allah is not a mind and never said that the L represents His mind. And He never taught us the things al-amiyr wants to teach us about Him.
If Perry Marshall or al-amiyr wants to makes such claims about Allah then it's their business, and whoever wants to follow his teachings it's their business. Bear witness that I am free of what he invents about AllahI asked al-amiyr a very simple question, he doesn't even need to type it, just a simple copy-paste from http//tanzil.net or his favourite site with an arabic Quran. But he was not able to do that. Why hmm
Please take a look at the next vers
693 And who is more wicked than he who invents lies about God, or says "It has been inspired to me," when We did not inspire anything to him; or who says "I will bring down the same as what God has sent down." And if you could only see the wicked at the moments of death when the angels have their arms opened "Bring yourselves out, today you will be given the severest punishment for what you used to say about God without truth, and you used to be arrogant towards His revelations."As long as he can't back up his claims with ayaats from The Book we call The Quran then it has not more value to me then Bukhari or every other inventor who spread lies about Allah.
I believe I am very clear now on how I think about al-amiyr, so there is no need to convince me about him.
For me it works like this
Claim about Allah or His ayaats => evidence from The Quran
If one can't do this, then he/she is a liar/inventor, very simple.al-amiyr, if you are reading this
2061 Moses said to them "Woe to you, do not invent lies about God, else the retribution will take you, and miserable is the one who invents."Salaam and I am out of this discussion,
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This whole thread is complete nonsense. As I am reading this I keep on thinking to myself this is NUTS, completely NUTS.
Anyone who has any common sense will realize that Muslims ought to stay far, far away from this kind of stuff. Just like summoning a jinn isn't technically haram, you'd have to be insane not to know that you should stay as far away as possible from that type of stuff.
Once again, I ask the righteous Muslims to stay away from this as al-amiyr willingly or unwillingly is leading you astray.
Fear Allah and do not carry on reading this thread.
You only registered on this forum four days ago, yet you've taken it upon yourself the role of a SAVIOUR, saying 'fear Allah', whilst instilling fear of a human voodoo Just like summoning a jinn isn't technically haram, you'd have to be insane not to know that you should stay as far away as possible from that type of stuff.
To be honest, this is verging on kufr. Al-amiyr is saying things about which he has no knowledge about Allah amongst other things.
kufr ....you mean denying Your Lord?
Tick below the correct answer;
a; Are you the "Christ"?
or
b;" the Anti-Christ" ?
jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi jedi -
You are saying that all things were obvious from the very start to you, maybe because you
are smarter than the others including me of course ,so let us wait and see what will come next
by al-amiyr and then all of us can decide if you were the smarter one.From reading Justamuslim, i think she is definitely smart. Not to mention having the courage to stand up for what she believes in and challenging al-amiyr. I think that at the end, we will all see how she is much smarter than al-amiyr.
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From reading Justamuslim, i think she is definitely smart. Not to mention having the courage to stand up for what she believes in and challenging al-amiyr. I think that at the end, we will all see how she is much smarter than al-amiyr.
What about from reading farida ?
Do you not think she is definitely smart ?
You will be surprised there are much smarter ones too yes -
Fascinating and interesting stuff. I think sceptics are premature to question al-amiyr's intention. Have patience and let al-amiyr finish his posts. Though some of his claims trouble me , I'm still intersted to read all that he wants to tell. We can and should allways fall back on quran. We should encourage new ideas , not impede or block it.
Al-amiyr has made his intentions quite clear. He has repeatedly made himself clear that his aim is to save people from this knowledge that only he posses. I would not say that there are skeptics but smart people here on the forum who see how delusional he is in his thinking. It is called grandiose delusion with religious overtones. Al-amiyr clearly suffers from religious grandiosity. His claims of humility are obviously superficial.