New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
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Thanks. "derived from Qur'aan" connotes subjective understanding as is the case with who are termed Sunnis. "Islam within the Qur'aan" is the true Islam.
And Islam within the Qur'aan is just that what the Verbal Noun Islam signifies. The day people understand what it signifies they will realize that it encompases even actions like rightly parking the car and leaving the wash room in a state that it does not create uneasiness for next visitor.
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Peace Dr. Ayman,
I take my words back. There's nothing wrong with the order of chapters. It's the perfect ending. I'm just amazed that you were able to contain that much information in so few pages and explain such difficult and complex issues in easy to understand words.
This book has the perfect ingredients to go viral.
Abdelilah
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I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation.
For those that are easily shocked, meaning they have invested alot of identity in their current beliefs, one can make a sort of "disclaimer" chapter/paragraph in the beginning that would make people more prone to start or keep reading.
Just some examples and thoughts
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Asking rhetorical question whether or not the reader thinks he/she knows all, for sure, and that there is no possibility that there is something they don't know, and that they consequently think they have the knowledge of Allah. Can they swear in front of Allah that their particular set of beliefs is correct and final, and if not then why not give the full book a chance, they can always reject it when having read the last page.
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Asking whether Allah is wrong in pointing out that the forefathers just might have been mistaken in some or many of their beliefs.
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Pointing out that one does not have to agree with everything you read, but you can still read it form information sake, perhaps there is some small bit to learn.
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Stating that if the reader fears ideas that don't agree to their current ideas, or that they have no wish to read about anything that they already do not know or about something that doesn't agree with what they already believe, then they should NOT read the book. The book is not for fearful people who are afraid to even read about unorthodox ideas. (Ego might now make them read it)
You get the point.
Perhaps some sort of introduction could be made in the spirit of this.... unless you already have, that is.Peace!
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Peace Zulf,
I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation.
For those that are easily shocked, meaning they have invested alot of identity in their current beliefs, one can make a sort of "disclaimer" chapter/paragraph in the beginning that would make people more prone to start or keep reading.I agree that at the beginning there needs to be a sort of introduction to prepare people for what is coming. I have seen the reaction of several people who read it and for some it was like their entire world was shaken. Here is the first paragraph, which is followed by a couple of simple clear examples that no one can argue with.
"This book deals with learning about the concept of ?islam? from the Quran. It is important to make this clear from the beginning because this book addresses the reader who is interested in studying the concept of ?islam? in the Quran. It is important to make a distinction because many people may think that they already know all there is to know about the Quran and the concept of islam. Therefore some brief examples will be provided to quickly prove that the vast majority of people, and even so-called Islamic scholars, do not know about the Quran as much as they think."
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace brother Abdelilah,
I take my words back. There's nothing wrong with the order of chapters. It's the perfect ending. I'm just amazed that you were able to contain that much information in so few pages and explain such difficult and complex issues in easy to understand words.
This book has the perfect ingredients to go viral.This is exactly the idea. Keep it simple and easily accessible. Also, focus on the so-called "pillars" because if we show that even those basic tenets have been grossly distorted and we can demonstrate how the truth in the great reading is vastly different to the traditional practices then we do not even need to waste any time in endless arguments about traditions. If something as big as "hagg"/feast has been so much distorted and turned into a pagan ritual then small potatoes such as Bukahri Hadiths and Ibn Hisham Sira are already destroyed.
I would greatly appreciate your help and everyone's help in sharing ideas on how to spread the word about the book.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Peace Dr. Ayman
I would greatly appreciate your help and everyone's help in sharing ideas on how to spread the word about the book.
I received 10 copies last week and I'm planning to give them away to anyone that is interested. But I don't think that's your idea of spreading the word.
I'd make a video trailer (5-15min) highlighting the pagan origins of the circus going on in Mecca. Lots of images of goddesses, sunrises, half-naked people, circumambulations, cubes, stones, obelisks, footprints, flowers, vulvas, etc. Use voice-over to explain the pagan origins step by step, or simply read from the last pages of chapter 4. Explicitly mention the book as source in the video.
Upload to YouTube.Maybe tryingtofindtruth is interested or someone with experience in video editing.
Abdelilah
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Peace brother Abdelilah,
I received 10 copies last week and I'm planning to give them away to anyone that is interested. But I don't think that's your idea of spreading the word. )
Thank you for your excellent help. Every word through any channel can help if the god willed. Many people prefer a hard copy in their hands to an electronic one but of course it is easier to distribute electronically.
I'd make a video trailer (5-15min) highlighting the pagan origins of the circus going on in Mecca. Lots of images of goddesses, sunrises, half-naked people, circumambulations, cubes, stones, obelisks, footprints, flowers, vulvas, etc. Use voice-over to explain the pagan origins step by step, or simply read from the last pages of chapter 4. Explicitly mention the book as source in the video.
Upload to YouTube.
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Maybe tryingtofindtruth is interested or someone with experience in video editing.The video is a good idea. I will try to find someone who can help create it since this is not my skill. It would help if they have read the book and can express the contents creatively. Not sure of Tryingtofindtruth has read it.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Thank you for your suggestion. I think that either titles are fine. From the point of view of people on this forum who already know that the term "islam/peacemaking" in the great reading is different than what Sunnis believe such as "it is built on five pillars", etc. then the title with Fee or Min would be fine. However, from the point of view of people who are not familiar with the difference, the title with Fee will not give the impression that it is presenting something different to what they already know from other sources. On the other hand, using Min indicates that the meaning is derived from the great reading and not from other sources. This is an idea that it is novel to them and therefore the book would immediately strike them as presenting something new that they are not familar with.
I would be interested in other comments you and other people here who know Arabic may have relating to the actual content and not just the title.
Peace,
Ayman
I will give my opinion even though I have yet to read it. But i can tell it may have to do with the rituals like salat etc.
I think you should approach this subject with other Quranist understanding in your mind and not just how you interpret it. Many Quranist perform rituals like Sunnis do. So this must be explained clearly. With the other way to pray outlined as an alternative. The more alternative the better. I say this because I have noticed here in the forum that many Quranist have a hard time seperating themselves from the Quranist movement meaning they seem to only accept their way rather than look for the common denominator. Its the Quranist community, and not individuals, who determine what the Quran says. I think this is a very good start but we must not make the same mistake other Quranist did by only highlighting their personal interpretation without exoplaining the various interpretation other Quranist have.
The question is this book about the Quranist movement or is it about Ayman?
Also I believe it wrong to ask people here what they think without first presenting this to mostly Sunni audiences. Thats my beliefe depending on what your target audience is.
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***** A MUST-READ for anyone who holds the Quran in high regard!
"Islam from the Quran" is a thought-provoking book that examines the widely accepted "five pillars" of
Islam in light of the Quran.It starts off with some clear and actual examples demonstrating the level of ignorance about the
Quran, especially by its self-proclaimed most ardent followers. After this brief introduction it takes you
by the hand while examining the word "islam" itself, and you feel like an elementary school kid when it
reveals through the simplest and clearest approach its true meaning.The following chapters are an in-depth analysis of "salaat", "masjid", "hajj" and "ramadan" as found in
the Quran and unveil some mind-boggling revelations. The last chapter feels like the last puzzle piece
when it discusses the "jinn" and makes you understand, somehow appreciate, how everything fits in
the big scheme of things.The book ends on a practical note and lays down a strategy from the Quran on how to seek and stay
on the straight path. It explains "zakaat" and invites everyone to reflect on the verses of the Quran. It
aspires to re-open the door of "ijtihad", and will hopefully be the first real attempt to succeed, unless
the god wills otherwise.http//www.amazon.com/Quran-Peace-Arabic-Ayman-Mohamed/
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Peace Bigmo,
I will give my opinion even though I have yet to read it. But i can tell it may have to do with the rituals like salat etc.
I think you should approach this subject with other Quranist understanding in your mind and not just how you interpret it. Many Quranist perform rituals like Sunnis do. So this must be explained clearly. With the other way to pray outlined as an alternative. The more alternative the better. I say this because I have noticed here in the forum that many Quranist have a hard time seperating themselves from the Quranist movement meaning they seem to only accept their way rather than look for the common denominator. Its the Quranist community, and not individuals, who determine what the Quran says. I think this is a very good start but we must not make the same mistake other Quranist did by only highlighting their personal interpretation without exoplaining the various interpretation other Quranist have.
The question is this book about the Quranist movement or is it about Ayman?
Also I believe it wrong to ask people here what they think without first presenting this to mostly Sunni audiences. Thats my beliefe depending on what your target audience is.I hope that by now you had a chance to read the book and saw the fact that it is not about Quranists at all. It is about the quran.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace.
When will the English version of the book be available,it's a shame the majority of us use English as our primary language of communication on this forum.
• "I always thought this was going to be in English . Congratulations on completing the book though."
• "Can you kindly translate those articles for us non arabic speakers.We too need that knowledge.Thanks."
• "Okey dokey. I look forward to reading this at some stage."
• "I am looking forward to reading the English version."
• "Is there an English version for this book? I would be extremely grateful!"
• "When there is an english version please let us know..."
• "Look forward to the English version of your book."
• "You can read some of its content here, in English http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg310311#msg310311 It may be re-worded in the book however."
• "I am "patiently" waiting for the English version. Thank you."
• "I'll be reading this in English isA when it comes out... In the meantime I shall snail read my way through a couple chapters."
• "When do you think your English version will be available? Your book sounds like an interesting read."
• "I was curious as to how the English version was coming along."
• "I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation."
"After the revolutions in Egypt and the other Arab countries, I felt that the book is more needed at this point in Arabic to advance the cause of peacemaking ("islam"."
"I am also working on an English version. The English version shouldn't take a whole lot of time since I already have most of the info in English."
"I have also started working on an English version. I will let everyone know once it is completed."
"Thanks everyone for your excellent help, encouragement and support to bring this project to light. I am working on the English version and I will be done soon, unless the god wills otherwise."Patience, my friend. )
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• "I always thought this was going to be in English . Congratulations on completing the book though."
• "Can you kindly translate those articles for us non arabic speakers.We too need that knowledge.Thanks."
• "Okey dokey. I look forward to reading this at some stage."
• "I am looking forward to reading the English version."
• "Is there an English version for this book? I would be extremely grateful!"
• "When there is an english version please let us know..."
• "Look forward to the English version of your book."
• "You can read some of its content here, in English http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg310311#msg310311 It may be re-worded in the book however."
• "I am "patiently" waiting for the English version. Thank you."
• "I'll be reading this in English isA when it comes out... In the meantime I shall snail read my way through a couple chapters."
• "When do you think your English version will be available? Your book sounds like an interesting read."
• "I was curious as to how the English version was coming along."
• "I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation."
Peace everyone and thank you for your patience.
I have uploaded the first 2 chapters of the book in English to the English version of the site
http//www.quran4peace.org/en_index.html
I would greatly appreciate all feedback. Unless the god wills otherwise, I will be uploading the remaining chapters one by one over the next few weeks.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Peace Ayman.
I have just finished reading both chapters and I absolutely love them. They comprise a very complete and clear analysis. Thank you, brother )
I can offer you two tiny remarks
On page four of the first part there is the following sentence
This is evident by the fact that in Arabic all words with the definite article have the initial letter Alif (A) deleted when pre-posed with the Arabic ?li? (for) preposition, as se can see, for example, in the passage immediately following the previous passage
The bolded part is probably a typo, isn't it? I am no native speaker but "se" is not an english word as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.
My second remark concerns your spelling of the word as "Salaam" implying that it is written with an Alif in the great reading. In fact this is not the case. Please verify yourself.
I know these are only minor issues but I hope they are useful nonetheless.
Peace be with you.
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Peace brother Timur,
I have just finished reading both chapters and I absolutely love them. They comprise a very complete and clear analysis. Thank you, brother )
I can offer you two tiny remarks
On page four of the first part there is the following sentence
The bolded part is probably a typo, isn't it? I am no native speaker but "se" is not an english word as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.Thank you for pointing out this typo. It should be "we". I corrected it accordingly and uploaded a new file.
My second remark concerns your spelling of the word as "Salaam" implying that it is written with an Alif in the great reading. In fact this is not the case. Please verify yourself.
I know these are only minor issues but I hope they are useful nonetheless.
Peace be with you.The word that I am spelling as "salaam" is actually the word not .
I have clarified this and also updated the chapter and will upload it.
Peace and thanks,
Ayman
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Peace brother Ayman.
The word that I am spelling as "salaam" is actually the word not .
What I wanted to express is the following is not a combination of letters that can be found in the great reading, though it may occur in modern print versions. Please check this here http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
The correct spelling is always http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
One example is verse 1010
The same applies for Islam by the way which is always spelled as and not as .
In case you didn't realize this fact already, I hope it gives you some input for your future studies )
Peace,
Timur
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Peace brother Ayman.
What I wanted to express is the following is not a combination of letters that can be found in the great reading, though it may occur in modern print versions. Please check this here http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
The correct spelling is always http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
One example is verse 1010
The same applies for Islam by the way which is always spelled as and not as .
In case you didn't realize this fact already, I hope it gives you some input for your future studies )
Peace,
Timur
Peace brother Timur,
Thanks for clarifying that you were talking about matres lectionis. I agree with you that the consonantal spelling differs from the way we pronounce it.
This is definitely an area needing further research. This is especially since the use of matres lectionis is sometimes inconsistent. For example, the word is spelled with a Matres Lectionis as through out the great reading except in 4112 where it is spelled as .
This shows that the writing style may not have been fully developed at the time.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Just wanted to add a thought I had regarding that Allah = the god, with def. article and all.
Traditional Muslims consider 'Allah' as a personal name of the God, but it becomes quite interesting when you think of the situations when personal names are needed and used, which is when there are several individual entities and one would like to be able to separate them from eachother for the purpose of identification.
The purpose of a personal name is incompatible with the quranic concept of God. There is no need for a personal name of God since there are no other gods to keep separate.... but perhaps people fancy having Allah has one of many other entities of worship.
hmm
Peace