New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
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Peace brother Abdelilah,
I take my words back. There's nothing wrong with the order of chapters. It's the perfect ending. I'm just amazed that you were able to contain that much information in so few pages and explain such difficult and complex issues in easy to understand words.
This book has the perfect ingredients to go viral.This is exactly the idea. Keep it simple and easily accessible. Also, focus on the so-called "pillars" because if we show that even those basic tenets have been grossly distorted and we can demonstrate how the truth in the great reading is vastly different to the traditional practices then we do not even need to waste any time in endless arguments about traditions. If something as big as "hagg"/feast has been so much distorted and turned into a pagan ritual then small potatoes such as Bukahri Hadiths and Ibn Hisham Sira are already destroyed.
I would greatly appreciate your help and everyone's help in sharing ideas on how to spread the word about the book.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Peace Dr. Ayman
I would greatly appreciate your help and everyone's help in sharing ideas on how to spread the word about the book.
I received 10 copies last week and I'm planning to give them away to anyone that is interested. But I don't think that's your idea of spreading the word.
I'd make a video trailer (5-15min) highlighting the pagan origins of the circus going on in Mecca. Lots of images of goddesses, sunrises, half-naked people, circumambulations, cubes, stones, obelisks, footprints, flowers, vulvas, etc. Use voice-over to explain the pagan origins step by step, or simply read from the last pages of chapter 4. Explicitly mention the book as source in the video.
Upload to YouTube.Maybe tryingtofindtruth is interested or someone with experience in video editing.
Abdelilah
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Peace brother Abdelilah,
I received 10 copies last week and I'm planning to give them away to anyone that is interested. But I don't think that's your idea of spreading the word. )
Thank you for your excellent help. Every word through any channel can help if the god willed. Many people prefer a hard copy in their hands to an electronic one but of course it is easier to distribute electronically.
I'd make a video trailer (5-15min) highlighting the pagan origins of the circus going on in Mecca. Lots of images of goddesses, sunrises, half-naked people, circumambulations, cubes, stones, obelisks, footprints, flowers, vulvas, etc. Use voice-over to explain the pagan origins step by step, or simply read from the last pages of chapter 4. Explicitly mention the book as source in the video.
Upload to YouTube.
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Maybe tryingtofindtruth is interested or someone with experience in video editing.The video is a good idea. I will try to find someone who can help create it since this is not my skill. It would help if they have read the book and can express the contents creatively. Not sure of Tryingtofindtruth has read it.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Thank you for your suggestion. I think that either titles are fine. From the point of view of people on this forum who already know that the term "islam/peacemaking" in the great reading is different than what Sunnis believe such as "it is built on five pillars", etc. then the title with Fee or Min would be fine. However, from the point of view of people who are not familiar with the difference, the title with Fee will not give the impression that it is presenting something different to what they already know from other sources. On the other hand, using Min indicates that the meaning is derived from the great reading and not from other sources. This is an idea that it is novel to them and therefore the book would immediately strike them as presenting something new that they are not familar with.
I would be interested in other comments you and other people here who know Arabic may have relating to the actual content and not just the title.
Peace,
Ayman
I will give my opinion even though I have yet to read it. But i can tell it may have to do with the rituals like salat etc.
I think you should approach this subject with other Quranist understanding in your mind and not just how you interpret it. Many Quranist perform rituals like Sunnis do. So this must be explained clearly. With the other way to pray outlined as an alternative. The more alternative the better. I say this because I have noticed here in the forum that many Quranist have a hard time seperating themselves from the Quranist movement meaning they seem to only accept their way rather than look for the common denominator. Its the Quranist community, and not individuals, who determine what the Quran says. I think this is a very good start but we must not make the same mistake other Quranist did by only highlighting their personal interpretation without exoplaining the various interpretation other Quranist have.
The question is this book about the Quranist movement or is it about Ayman?
Also I believe it wrong to ask people here what they think without first presenting this to mostly Sunni audiences. Thats my beliefe depending on what your target audience is.
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***** A MUST-READ for anyone who holds the Quran in high regard!
"Islam from the Quran" is a thought-provoking book that examines the widely accepted "five pillars" of
Islam in light of the Quran.It starts off with some clear and actual examples demonstrating the level of ignorance about the
Quran, especially by its self-proclaimed most ardent followers. After this brief introduction it takes you
by the hand while examining the word "islam" itself, and you feel like an elementary school kid when it
reveals through the simplest and clearest approach its true meaning.The following chapters are an in-depth analysis of "salaat", "masjid", "hajj" and "ramadan" as found in
the Quran and unveil some mind-boggling revelations. The last chapter feels like the last puzzle piece
when it discusses the "jinn" and makes you understand, somehow appreciate, how everything fits in
the big scheme of things.The book ends on a practical note and lays down a strategy from the Quran on how to seek and stay
on the straight path. It explains "zakaat" and invites everyone to reflect on the verses of the Quran. It
aspires to re-open the door of "ijtihad", and will hopefully be the first real attempt to succeed, unless
the god wills otherwise.http//www.amazon.com/Quran-Peace-Arabic-Ayman-Mohamed/
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Peace Bigmo,
I will give my opinion even though I have yet to read it. But i can tell it may have to do with the rituals like salat etc.
I think you should approach this subject with other Quranist understanding in your mind and not just how you interpret it. Many Quranist perform rituals like Sunnis do. So this must be explained clearly. With the other way to pray outlined as an alternative. The more alternative the better. I say this because I have noticed here in the forum that many Quranist have a hard time seperating themselves from the Quranist movement meaning they seem to only accept their way rather than look for the common denominator. Its the Quranist community, and not individuals, who determine what the Quran says. I think this is a very good start but we must not make the same mistake other Quranist did by only highlighting their personal interpretation without exoplaining the various interpretation other Quranist have.
The question is this book about the Quranist movement or is it about Ayman?
Also I believe it wrong to ask people here what they think without first presenting this to mostly Sunni audiences. Thats my beliefe depending on what your target audience is.I hope that by now you had a chance to read the book and saw the fact that it is not about Quranists at all. It is about the quran.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace.
When will the English version of the book be available,it's a shame the majority of us use English as our primary language of communication on this forum.
• "I always thought this was going to be in English . Congratulations on completing the book though."
• "Can you kindly translate those articles for us non arabic speakers.We too need that knowledge.Thanks."
• "Okey dokey. I look forward to reading this at some stage."
• "I am looking forward to reading the English version."
• "Is there an English version for this book? I would be extremely grateful!"
• "When there is an english version please let us know..."
• "Look forward to the English version of your book."
• "You can read some of its content here, in English http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg310311#msg310311 It may be re-worded in the book however."
• "I am "patiently" waiting for the English version. Thank you."
• "I'll be reading this in English isA when it comes out... In the meantime I shall snail read my way through a couple chapters."
• "When do you think your English version will be available? Your book sounds like an interesting read."
• "I was curious as to how the English version was coming along."
• "I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation."
"After the revolutions in Egypt and the other Arab countries, I felt that the book is more needed at this point in Arabic to advance the cause of peacemaking ("islam"."
"I am also working on an English version. The English version shouldn't take a whole lot of time since I already have most of the info in English."
"I have also started working on an English version. I will let everyone know once it is completed."
"Thanks everyone for your excellent help, encouragement and support to bring this project to light. I am working on the English version and I will be done soon, unless the god wills otherwise."Patience, my friend. )
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• "I always thought this was going to be in English . Congratulations on completing the book though."
• "Can you kindly translate those articles for us non arabic speakers.We too need that knowledge.Thanks."
• "Okey dokey. I look forward to reading this at some stage."
• "I am looking forward to reading the English version."
• "Is there an English version for this book? I would be extremely grateful!"
• "When there is an english version please let us know..."
• "Look forward to the English version of your book."
• "You can read some of its content here, in English http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg310311#msg310311 It may be re-worded in the book however."
• "I am "patiently" waiting for the English version. Thank you."
• "I'll be reading this in English isA when it comes out... In the meantime I shall snail read my way through a couple chapters."
• "When do you think your English version will be available? Your book sounds like an interesting read."
• "I was curious as to how the English version was coming along."
• "I too am looking forward to the English version... with great anticipation."
Peace everyone and thank you for your patience.
I have uploaded the first 2 chapters of the book in English to the English version of the site
http//www.quran4peace.org/en_index.html
I would greatly appreciate all feedback. Unless the god wills otherwise, I will be uploading the remaining chapters one by one over the next few weeks.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Peace Ayman.
I have just finished reading both chapters and I absolutely love them. They comprise a very complete and clear analysis. Thank you, brother )
I can offer you two tiny remarks
On page four of the first part there is the following sentence
This is evident by the fact that in Arabic all words with the definite article have the initial letter Alif (A) deleted when pre-posed with the Arabic ?li? (for) preposition, as se can see, for example, in the passage immediately following the previous passage
The bolded part is probably a typo, isn't it? I am no native speaker but "se" is not an english word as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.
My second remark concerns your spelling of the word as "Salaam" implying that it is written with an Alif in the great reading. In fact this is not the case. Please verify yourself.
I know these are only minor issues but I hope they are useful nonetheless.
Peace be with you.
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Peace brother Timur,
I have just finished reading both chapters and I absolutely love them. They comprise a very complete and clear analysis. Thank you, brother )
I can offer you two tiny remarks
On page four of the first part there is the following sentence
The bolded part is probably a typo, isn't it? I am no native speaker but "se" is not an english word as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.Thank you for pointing out this typo. It should be "we". I corrected it accordingly and uploaded a new file.
My second remark concerns your spelling of the word as "Salaam" implying that it is written with an Alif in the great reading. In fact this is not the case. Please verify yourself.
I know these are only minor issues but I hope they are useful nonetheless.
Peace be with you.The word that I am spelling as "salaam" is actually the word not .
I have clarified this and also updated the chapter and will upload it.
Peace and thanks,
Ayman
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Peace brother Ayman.
The word that I am spelling as "salaam" is actually the word not .
What I wanted to express is the following is not a combination of letters that can be found in the great reading, though it may occur in modern print versions. Please check this here http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
The correct spelling is always http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
One example is verse 1010
The same applies for Islam by the way which is always spelled as and not as .
In case you didn't realize this fact already, I hope it gives you some input for your future studies )
Peace,
Timur
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Peace brother Ayman.
What I wanted to express is the following is not a combination of letters that can be found in the great reading, though it may occur in modern print versions. Please check this here http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
The correct spelling is always http//alquran.eu/index.php?searchText=%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85&searchOption=whole&trans=Quran&selectedSuras=1,&analyze=0&case_sensitive=0&non_transliteration=1&srchT=Quran
One example is verse 1010
The same applies for Islam by the way which is always spelled as and not as .
In case you didn't realize this fact already, I hope it gives you some input for your future studies )
Peace,
Timur
Peace brother Timur,
Thanks for clarifying that you were talking about matres lectionis. I agree with you that the consonantal spelling differs from the way we pronounce it.
This is definitely an area needing further research. This is especially since the use of matres lectionis is sometimes inconsistent. For example, the word is spelled with a Matres Lectionis as through out the great reading except in 4112 where it is spelled as .
This shows that the writing style may not have been fully developed at the time.
Peace and best regards,
Ayman
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Just wanted to add a thought I had regarding that Allah = the god, with def. article and all.
Traditional Muslims consider 'Allah' as a personal name of the God, but it becomes quite interesting when you think of the situations when personal names are needed and used, which is when there are several individual entities and one would like to be able to separate them from eachother for the purpose of identification.
The purpose of a personal name is incompatible with the quranic concept of God. There is no need for a personal name of God since there are no other gods to keep separate.... but perhaps people fancy having Allah has one of many other entities of worship.
hmm
Peace
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Peace brother Ayman.
This is definitely an area needing further research. This is especially since the use of matres lectionis is sometimes inconsistent. For example, the word is spelled with a Matres Lectionis as through out the great reading except in 4112 where it is spelled as .
I agree that further research on this matter is needed. However, are you sure about the case of ? I have just checked its spelling in 4112 in several manuscripts but only in the Kodex Samarkand there is an alif and even there it is behind the mim and not behind the waw . Probably this is a simple typo of the scribe. Hence I think should always be spelled without an alif.
In order to give an example here is a picture of the passage in the Kodex Topkap Saray M?zesi
http//s1.directupload.net/images/130313/phqxe2f8.png
You can access the manuscripts on this site http//www.corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/41/vers/12?handschrift=2
Peace be with you,
Timur
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Peace brother Timur,
Peace brother Ayman.
I agree that further research on this matter is needed. However, are you sure about the case of ? I have just checked its spelling in 4112 in several manuscripts but only in the Kodex Samarkand there is an alif and even there it is behind the mim and not behind the waw . Probably this is a simple typo of the scribe. Hence I think should always be spelled without an alif.
In order to give an example here is a picture of the passage in the Kodex Topkap Saray M?zesi
http//s1.directupload.net/images/130313/phqxe2f8.png
You can access the manuscripts on this site http//www.corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/41/vers/12?handschrift=2
Peace be with you,
Timur
It could be a spelling mistake but not a typo (typing was not invented yet)
This inconsistent use of matres Lectionis is also seen in other words such as in passages 1338, 154, 1827 and 271.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace brother Ayman.
It could be a spelling mistake but not a typo (typing was not invented yet)
Haha, thank you for correcting rotfl As I see you got what I meant nonetheless
This inconsistent use of matres Lectionis is also seen in other words such as in passages 1338, 154, 1827 and 271.
I have checked those verses on
http//www.corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/27/vers/1?handschrift=163
and for each of these verses I have found manuscripts wherein is consistently written without an alif. Hence I think this is most probably the original spelling of the word.Peace,
Timur