Why God put verses in Quran he is the only one he can understand ?
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Salaam All and thank you for your responses.
I will add my contribution.
we can deduce from that verses tow conclusions
1- Nobody can claim, even in the future, that he understood all quran. No book in the world can give definitive tafassir of verses whateever is the number of writer. No assembly or Mejliss can claim too have complete knowledge of Quran and claim to be an incountournable institution.
2- Since "confuse" verses are not marked, then we have to think about all verses without knowing if we can understand them or not. If we think we have understood a verse and somebody else came with a plausible other interpretation, then the verse get automatically status of "confuse verse".So, perhaps we can say that no verse will be definitevely misunderstood and no verse can be defintively understood.
So, even if essence of the book is clear, thinking and exchange of opinons between pupils of the unique Rabb/teacher should never finish.
It seems that God wanted so. Diversity of opinions is in the heart of Islam. Two different opinions can be both accepted. Multiple meanings are allowed in quran understanding.
Those who have knowledge have to accept that.
I am now sure that malaika have free will and total freedom of thinking. There is only some bondaries they should never violate.Peace
If you are not already, then you should be a diplomat!
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Yes, we?re all born ignorant and if we will, we aspire and gain knowledge. Many go to school, university etc however this tuition is not necessarily going to make you a master/elite or even well grounded understanding of a subject, just because a person attended and passed it does not necessarily mean they are well grounded in knowledge. You may know the first priorities of management it doesn?t mean you?re a successful manager, it does not mean you know how to execute your duties. Why then are things left to interpretation? Why are not the actions and expectations of management 1 rule that every manager can follow, why oh why is there differences? If only it could be one way for every single thing in life.
No one says don?t worry. well maybe you do to yourself. I dunno. We have a book with instructions. Some may not be clear to us but that?s why we seek knowledge and seek to understand. And that is what God has pointed out in the Quran.
Believers can feel ease by knowing God?s promise that those who believe and do good will be rewarded, so even if you?re no expert you can still manage to get a reward. so you're eternity is secure if you're genuine and adhere to the promise.
Peace.
I believe the Quran truly clarifies this. If you look at the issue of slavery - it states that freeing a slave is a good thing to do. But the Quran recognises the constraints of a particular society that individuals live in. So it is not saying abolish it now etc. It paves the way for reform. This could also relate to our time - we live in a world where there are food and drink "mountains" and "lakes" in Europe because of policies related to agriculture but there are people starving. The Quran would not tell us to stressfully abolish everything we can but to move the way to reforming it, wherever possible and within our means.
This is an easy going nature. And a calm and centered approach is always encouraged by the Quran in terms of the behaviour of believers. This only serves to help us as individuals.
Definitely, if you are not an expert you get a reward for what you put forth. I don't believe Allah wants experts but people with sincere minds and souls. Some people cannot read and write - are they expected to understand the Quran in the same way someone with those skills may? No, I don't believe so. Some people cannot understand Arabic - are they expected to master Arabic? I don't think so either. Can these groups still be sincere believers? Yes, of course. This may be going off on a tangent a bit.
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I believe the Quran truly clarifies this.
Sorry, but I don't see anything being clarified in the Koran. Every person has a different understanding of what the Koran means. Example of the extreme how does HM clarify something or help with guidance? It takes pages of speculation to come up with a possible meaning.
If you look at the issue of slavery - it states that freeing a slave is a good thing to do. But the Quran recognises the constraints of a particular society that individuals live in. So it is not saying abolish it now etc. It paves the way for reform. This could also relate to our time - we live in a world where there are food and drink "mountains" and "lakes" in Europe because of policies related to agriculture but there are people starving. The Quran would not tell us to stressfully abolish everything we can but to move the way to reforming it, wherever possible and within our means.
I don't understand your reasoning. The Koran, in my eyes, does not say anything about freeing slaves, but provides instructions how to handle slaves and what a man is allowed to do with a female slave sexually.
It treats slaves as a common institution. If the Koran would want people to stop owning other humans it would say stop slavery! Why not?
The Koran says stop eating pork! Stop intoxicants! Stop worshipping other gods! So why not just another "stop"?This is an easy going nature. And a calm and centered approach is always encouraged by the Quran in terms of the behaviour of believers. This only serves to help us as individuals.
Definitely, if you are not an expert you get a reward for what you put forth. I don't believe Allah wants experts but people with sincere minds and souls. Some people cannot read and write - are they expected to understand the Quran in the same way someone with those skills may? No, I don't believe so. Some people cannot understand Arabic - are they expected to master Arabic? I don't think so either. Can these groups still be sincere believers? Yes, of course. This may be going off on a tangent a bit.
I think I understand your approach of making the best of all worlds. It is laudable and I wish more people would do this.
Unfortunately, others are taking the darker side of the Koran and are using it to oppress and suppress. My conclusion is that the Koran is vague and ambiguous and every individual can have their own, individual interpretation. -
Why God put verses in Quran he is the only one he can understand ?
very simple answer, but I am sure this will sound rude, but this is truth....
why he makes QURAAN complicated?
simple because he dont want every body to understand it, jannah is for exclusive people, and ALLAH is the one who will chose for those who can enter jannah.....
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no matter how great ur arabic is, and no matter how intelligent u are to crack code of QURAAN,
u wont understand true essence of QURAAN unless and untill ALLAH wish for it....
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no matter how great ur arabic is, and no matter how intelligent u are to crack code of QURAAN,
u wont understand true essence of QURAAN unless and untill ALLAH wish for it....
So it's like a machine in a casino in Vegas? If you are lucky you win the jackpot?
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So it's like a machine in a casino in Vegas? If you are lucky you win the jackpot?
in casino we dont have choice, but here we have choice, to either follow it or just reject it or keep asking questions.....
one thing I have learn in life is that ALLAH likes submission instead of QUESTIONS.....and if he will wish he will give answers as well.
this is why the ayat says "true followers accepts what is revealed"
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Why God put verses in Quran he is the only one he can understand ?
very simple answer, but I am sure this will sound rude, but this is truth....
why he makes QURAAN complicated?
simple because he dont want every body to understand it, jannah is for exclusive people, and ALLAH is the one who will chose for those who can enter jannah.....
What are your thoughts on 5417? ("And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Are there any who want to learn?"
edit Not just Rising Star, but everyone else. How would the Qur'an be complex in nature yet "easy to learn" at the same time?
Peace
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What are your thoughts on 5417? ("And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Are there any who want to learn?"
edit Not just Rising Star, but everyone else. How would the Qur'an be complex in nature yet "easy to learn" at the same time?
Peace
Salaam bro,
"And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Are there any who want to learn?"
again a very simple answer...
for those who submits, QURAAN is as easy as nursery poems, those who try to be extra smart, QURAAN is soooo extra complicated for them... )
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So then how did you determine it was revealed? To whom?
This is the most important facet of your life and you don't care what happened when and where and you simply follow?
revealed on MUHAMMED(s)....and yes we follow what is revealed on him "unquestioned"
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Sorry, but I don't see anything being clarified in the Koran. Every person has a different understanding of what the Koran means. Example of the extreme how does HM clarify something or help with guidance? It takes pages of speculation to come up with a possible meaning.
I find the cornerstones self-evident- these are agreed upon by those following Quran alone. Just because there aren't lots of rules doesn't mean its not identified and agreed upon. In fact, I find it a Mercy. One of the cornerstones is sincerity (this may go without me saying) - I think this shows something important in terms of what the Quran means to each of us.
I don't understand your reasoning. The Koran, in my eyes, does not say anything about freeing slaves, but provides instructions how to handle slaves and what a man is allowed to do with a female slave sexually.
It treats slaves as a common institution. If the Koran would want people to stop owning other humans it would say stop slavery! Why not?
The Koran says stop eating pork! Stop intoxicants! Stop worshipping other gods! So why not just another "stop"?Well, it does say things about freeing slaves - some are included on the following link that also includes some more relevant information.
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/islam-quran-abolish-slavery.htm
There is also about slaves and marriage. http//www.quranicpath.com/misconceptions/concubines.htmlI don't know if you've read these. Short answer to the other points individual level and societal level means some things are straightforward whereas other things have more complexity. Given the character that the Quran constantly refers to for believers - and describes for Messengers and other noted examples for all believers such as Maryam - the way to treat slaves would be well, with plenty of security, shelter, food and kindness - i.e. not harshness.
I think I understand your approach of making the best of all worlds. It is laudable and I wish more people would do this.
Unfortunately, others are taking the darker side of the Koran and are using it to oppress and suppress. My conclusion is that the Koran is vague and ambiguous and every individual can have their own, individual interpretation.The most clear of things - the shahadah, the individuals following hadith had to change this. They made a second shahadah. The fact they say second for it should say a lot really. This way clear yet how many deviate from this clearly stated, oft repeated point in the Quran. Still they change it. When it's oft repeated its a problem because its apparently not linguistically good enough. When its not oft repeated some may complain that it can be a problem because its not clear enough. This is an issue I tend to come across. So we appear to be dealing with people's attitudes and this will remain whether a book has clear and more ambiguous verses or not. They treat them in the same way because of their own attitude. Maybe the point is to deal with that kind of human perspective.
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Salaam bro,
"And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Are there any who want to learn?"
again a very simple answer...
for those who submits, QURAAN is as easy as nursery poems, those who try to be extra smart, QURAAN is soooo extra complicated for them... )
I sorta understand what you're saying. Innovate too wildly and you'll end up potentially acting upon a completely different message/aim altogether - but the Qur'an seems to be, for all intents and purposes, a relatively loose set of morals and aims. There is going to be variance in interpretation, heck there has been throughout all of history (not just with different sects but within those very sects too, it seems) How would one "submit" to the Qur'an without accidentally being "extra smart"? Or am I looking at this the completely wrong way?
Peace.
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I sorta understand what you're saying. Innovate too wildly and you'll end up potentially acting upon a completely different message/aim altogether - but the Qur'an seems to be, for all intents and purposes, a relatively loose set of morals and aims. There is going to be variance in interpretation, heck there has been throughout all of history (not just with different sects but within those very sects too, it seems) How would one "submit" to the Qur'an without accidentally being "extra smart"? Or am I looking at this the completely wrong way?
Peace.
simple core message is same in geeta,torah,bible,Quraan.....it just got modified with time in ascending order.
Quraan is most advanced book from ALLAH SUBHANU.
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Salaam bro,
"And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Are there any who want to learn?"
again a very simple answer...
for those who submits, QURAAN is as easy as nursery poems, those who try to be extra smart, QURAAN is soooo extra complicated for them... )
Salamun alaikum,
Agreed. Those who propagate that Qur'aan is difficult to learn and comprehend are guilty of contradicting the emphatic declaration of Allah the Exalted.
"those who try to be extra smart"; Qur'aan is extremely smart to take care of them.
Thereby, for reason of its universality and permanence We have certainly made it-Grand Qur'aan easy to comprehend by transcribing it in the mother tongue-Arabic of you Muhammad .
The purpose of its easy rendition is that you the Messenger might give glad tidings-guarantee on strength of this Grand Qur'aan to those who mindfully endeavor avoiding unrestrained conduct in reverence and fear;
and so that you the Messenger may admonish with this Qur'aan the excessively argumentative people.
Proclamation of Allah the Exalted Qur'aan is made easy to learn and comprehend by its transcription in Arabic