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Are you being sarcastic?
I don't think Anjem Choudary and his ilk are a laughing matter. The things they come out with are abhorrent.
I agree. Most of the things they say are repulsive. Should have been more specific over there. I'm talking about the pseudo science in some of their videos e.g. latest research shows that licking your fingers(which is a sunnah) stops cancer. ;D
They are a chillul hashem. I had to google that one P
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I've spoken to my sunni muslim friends of how I feel and sadly, They say I'm kufr for questioning the hadiths and quote passages of the quran saying I must follow them. I always read what it is they quote to see for myself but do not see it saying you must follow the hadiths. Only saying follow the prophet. Which I have. I follow exactly his message as stated in the quran. The same message abraham brought and all the prophets before with NO EXTRA BOOK!!
I heard the same.
456 These are the revelations of God, We recite them to you with the truth. So, in which narrative(arabic wordhadith) after God and His revelations do they believe?I just tried exlaing to my seven year old why I don't follow hadiths and she got it straight away
MashAllah
no influence from mainstream islam so see's the words exactly as they are
Most people lack objectivity.
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Is it in the quran or sunnah to sleep in a certain position?
Anything that sounds like nonesense is from the sunnah-from personal experience, anyway. This is what led me to reject all this Bukhari business a few years ago.
Are you being sarcastic?
No, dear. Which are the "no-go areas for non-Muslims in Europe"? I live in England, so I'm keen to know.
Licking fingers stops cancer? eat I think I've heard that one, you know. yes Ya Allah! rotfl brickwall
I love this "chillul hashem". I became quite interested in learning Hebrew, and to me a lot of these Sunnah-based practices are "chillul hashem". Perfect description, I think!
Salaam.
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http//www.liveleak.com/view?i=b99_1311688563 .I also remember watching a video that an Imam from a Southall mosque told Tony Blair to "get lost" as he is in a "muslim area". Can't find the link though.
Licking fingers stops cancer? eat I think I've heard that one, you know. yes Ya Allah! rotfl brickwall
I love this "chillul hashem". I became quite interested in learning Hebrew, and to me a lot of these Sunnah-based practices are "chillul hashem". Perfect description, I think!
Salaam.
According to Dr. Bilal Philips, just as a snake's body contains the antidote for the poison, one wing of a fly contains a disease and the other one contains its cure. So if a fly drops in your drink. Dip it in and drink it.
The best one A tribe from Ukl drank camel urine and got muscle. It's what the bodybuilding supplement industry has been hiding for years -
http//www.liveleak.com/view?i=b99_1311688563 .I also remember watching a video that an Imam from a Southall mosque told Tony Blair to "get lost" as he is in a "muslim area".
Come on, you don't seriously believe everything you read.
If Southall is a "Muslim area", then what are the dudes with the paghs and the karas doing there......
I don't believe there is any such thing as a "no go" area for "non-Muslims" in England. I live in a majority "Muslim" area.
According to Dr. Bilal Philips, just as a snake's body contains the antidote for the poison, one wing of a fly contains a disease and the other one contains its cure. So if a fly drops in your drink. Dip it in and drink it.
The best one A tribe from Ukl drank camel urine and got muscle. It's what the bodybuilding supplement industry has been hiding for years DWah! Wah! Wah! brickwall
I'm quite enjoying reading these. Keep 'em coming, dude!
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Can someone help me with these verses?
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459A friend of mine who is sunni sent me lots to read to prove we should follow hadiths. The rest I drop kicked out of the park, but these are troubling me as they do appear to say follow and obey muhammads sunnah/ways
Also, what does al hikmah means and does anyone know the actual meaning of the word sunnah?
Oooh sorry, one more....I read earlier that it states in the quran not to follow hadiths....anyone know where exactly it says this??
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Come on, you don't seriously believe everything you read.
If Southall is a "Muslim area", then what are the dudes with the paghs and the karas doing there......
I don't believe there is any such thing as a "no go" area for "non-Muslims" in England. I live in a majority "Muslim" area.
I don't but I saw a clip of his speech if you're talking about the imam. As far as racism and discrimination by muslims is concerned I've seen it with my own eyes. Many mosques teach hate esp. against the jews. I know that the media tends to exaggerate everything but some people do act very aggressively. Good question btw but you should ask that imam .
Racism is everywhere and you will find non-muslims doing the same with muslims. Many people do see them as no-go areas but I guess it all depends on how cautious you are. -
I don't but I saw a clip of his speech if you're talking about the imam. As far as racism and discrimination by muslims is concerned I've seen it with my own eyes. Many mosques teach hate esp. against the jews. I know that the media tends to exaggerate everything but some people do act very aggressively. Good question btw but you should ask that imam P.
Racism is everywhere and you will find non-muslims doing the same with muslims. Many people do see them as no-go areas but I guess it all depends on how cautious you are.I'm not saying that racism does not exist. I know about these hardcore types. I have seen, heard and challenged these nut jobs myself. They exist, but they don't account for all views. Nor does some twit telling someone that they are not welcome in an area, make that area a "no go" area. Apparently, where I live is a "no go" area for "non Muslims" too, but I can quite categorically tell you that it isn't!
Can someone help me with these verses?
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4115
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459A friend of mine who is sunni sent me lots to read to prove we should follow hadiths. The rest I drop kicked out of the park, but these are troubling me as they do appear to say follow and obey muhammads sunnah/ways
Also, what does al hikmah means and does anyone know the actual meaning of the word sunnah?
Oooh sorry, one more....I read earlier that it states in the quran not to follow hadiths....anyone know where exactly it says this??
It might be better to start a separate thread for these questions.
Salaam to all.
Sajda.
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Can someone help me with these verses?
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4115
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459A friend of mine who is sunni sent me lots to read to prove we should follow hadiths. The rest I drop kicked out of the park, but these are troubling me as they do appear to say follow and obey muhammads sunnah/ways
Also, what does al hikmah means and does anyone know the actual meaning of the word sunnah?
Oooh sorry, one more....I read earlier that it states in the quran not to follow hadiths....anyone know where exactly it says this??
I would also advise start a new thread for some of these topics, you may also get a few more responses that way. I think on the hadith issue Renegade gave an example and included the word from the transliteration. You'll have to look at the transliteration and the translation because they have chosen to translate the word hadith to mean different things - in one verse in Surah Luqman they translated to mean music and idle tales 316. There is an article that helps, although I may not use the word Muhammadean as used in the article I linked to below.
http//submission.org/Why_word_Hadith_left_in_Arabic.html There are some more examples that haven't been used in that article. You can also use an online translation with the transliteration on the page which can help.
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I don't but I saw a clip of his speech if you're talking about the imam. As far as racism and discrimination by muslims is concerned I've seen it with my own eyes. Many mosques teach hate esp. against the jews. I know that the media tends to exaggerate everything but some people do act very aggressively. Good question btw but you should ask that imam .
Racism is everywhere and you will find non-muslims doing the same with muslims. Many people do see them as no-go areas but I guess it all depends on how cautious you are.I don't think they are no go areas. They may be less likely to move there because they think there are fewer people like themselves, although I don't think that would be true. The same could go for areas that are all white - some Asian people or other ethnicities would be less likely to go there, does that mean they are no go areas? The no go areas might be more places with lots of "anti social" as they call it behaviour though a stronger word may be necessary
I don't think many mosques teach anti-semitism, most mosques are open to the public aren't they? There are all sort of people who can just go in and visit. If they hear something quite anti-semitic, that's not going to help. There can be anti-semitism especially when people don't distinguish between Zionist and Jews, but on the other hand, Muslims can be incredibly happy when they hear of Jews who speak out against Israel etc.
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I'm not saying that racism does not exist. I know about these hardcore types. I have seen, heard and challenged these nut jobs myself. They exist, but they don't account for all views. Nor does some twit telling someone that they are not welcome in an area, make that area a "no go" area. Apparently, where I live is a "no go" area for "non Muslims" too, but I can quite categorically tell you that it isn't!
Hmmm. I suppose you are right.
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Thank you @supportpeacenotwar. That just reaffirmed what I already believe.
No problem, I'm happy I could be of assistance! Allah bestows all knowledge, may He bless all believers and those who seek Him.
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I think the only way I'm going to be able to read the quran how it should be is to learn arabic lol. Am I not just taking someone elses word for it that their translation is what the quran says?
You can definitely learn Arabic if you want. I would say that you don't need to or have to. As God is the Guide, I believe if you pray to Him for guidance, you can understand the Quran through translations and using the transliteration occasionally.
This resource may help
http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/default.htmIt has many translations for each verse including a transliteration at the top. Soon if you follow the transliteration along or listen to the Quran being recited you'll notice certain words and themes become much more familiar. Some things in the translation are agreed upon, I may have mentioned this in one my earlier posts. Some things aren't. I think by praying to Allah to guide you, you will become familiar with what does and does not fit. Many things are repeated in the Quran, I believe this helps those who are non-Arabic speakers to understand and identify or check particular ideas.
There's also the issue of for e.g. cutting off a hand for stealing. We can take a look at the point that other crimes do not require removing limbs - this is quite straightforward. Then, Prophet Yusuf's example in relation to this. It can take a bit of time, I think you already know that, but its definitely achievable for non-Arabic speakers.
