Entering The Hidden Book - - - - - - - - - -> inshaa allaah
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Could you explain why you are getting lost trying to follow the topic? That clarity might be helpful to bring clarity inshaa allaah.
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I can confirm that the "Hidden Book" written of in this thread exists and I am abiding in it now.
What does this statement mean?
Also, 'the book' - does it exist in its entirety in the Quran and vice-versa?
Richard
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Salam Brother,
You haven't continued this thread for a long time now, is there any other place/forum where you are active?
Thanks
salaam Eve
I see that you and many others are waiting for brother al-amiyr's next lesson but, as I said in my last post on this thread, we need to study all that has been posted so far and, believe me, that is what I have been doing since last post. Even with the help of brother al-amiyr I still do not think I am ready for the next lesson, as I must make sure all that has been posted so far is properly understood. Maybe if you study those posts, from lesson one onward to this lesson, you may find a lot more than what you just see on the surface, as this is not like any other thread. We need to study it in depth, and repeatedly, until its firmly lodged in our brains insha'allaah.
salaam
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Salam Brother,
You haven't continued this thread for a long time now, is there any other place/forum where you are active?
Thanks
+salaam sister Eve
I apologize for the late reply. I have been quite busy on other venues and teaching those who want to learn more about the Book (al-kitaab) in private. There are also many members of this forum who are learning. I decided as from earlier on in the year to keep a lower profile for reasons. It is also wiser to take members to other venues to learn and then prevent any possible conflict or provocations that can lead to conflict. Since my last post (Post 15) many have asked me to continue. I am soon going to post Post 16 inshaa allaah. Many more things will become clear and you will begin to see how the Qur'aan explains the Book (al-kitaab).
+salaam
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Post 16
as-salaamu "alaykum = The peace be upon all of you
I thank all who have written that I must continue with the posts since my request of the last post; Post 15. I quote again from those who responded.
Salam al-amiyr. That is what I am looking for in your posts. The information so far you given , reminds me of creation stories described in hindu scriptures but with detailed explanation. So far so good. Please continue.
salaamun aleikum Brother al-miyr
I confirm and will be eagerly awaiting your next post. wow
Wassalaamwa" alaykum-us-salaam warahmatullaahi wabarakaatuhu al-amiyr
I read your above post this morning first I must congragulate you for beautifully presenting yet another enlightning post. I will now take some time to study it properly, and the feeling is great as I am beginning to work out the meaning of the words simply by moving my hand shaping the letter with the movement of my hand. I will not say much now as I have to ascertain that I was doing it right. I saw the space and time diagramme too, explaining Al-Kitaab, which I need to work on some more insha allaah.
salaam+
Peace al-amiyr,
Although I have not been utterly disrespectful, I have to admit I had a slightly rough tone in some of my posts addressed to you. I apologize for that.
This after I have reflected on my own upon the past events and concluded it was not entirely proper conduct.
Yet I have problems grasping the point in your threads, but that may be due to disparity.
May God bless you
Salam dear knowledgeable brother and Salam to all ;
Just quickly to comment about the post 15 above
It's simply a priceless knowledge , extraordinary explained , smoothly and simply presented .
All the laghw / twitter that was said before and today about Al-kitab what wrongly named by (Al- jinn scientist especially ) as quantum physics worth simply nothing as opposed to what just brother al-amiyr posted.
I witness i am rejecting the basic of quantum physics teaching and all the theories and names given and i am confirming that the teaching of brother al-amiyr is guided to better comprehension then all what was said about the creation and the order .
I'll be commenting and sharing more feed back and some comparative views later incha allah .
confirming brother kindly continue.
my respect
Very interesting stuff and it touches on genuine physics; the conduct of the OP does leave a lot to be desired however.
God is the teacher of all
Peace & blessings be upon you brother!
Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge of this stature. I have just skimmed through it and will have to sit with a pen & paper & read all over again but i just had to thank you. I really liked how this is not some religious folklare but actual physics of primordial sounds & everything. What caught my attention is also how u quote from the Bhagvad Geeta & talked about 'Aum'. I had some pretty cool experiences with just chanting the word 'Aum' for sometime.
Please do continue without wasting any of your time or energy replying to your naggers, its not worth it at all! Focus on your mission!
Eagerly awaiting for the progress!!
No news from al-amiyr ?
Salam brother al-amiyr. Where are you? Long time no post!! Hope you are fine and healthy.
Savage_carrot It has been more than days now. Plenty of time for al-amiyr to minister to his people. Words need to mean something.
I can confirm that the "Hidden Book" written of in this thread exists and I am abiding in it now.
Whether Al-Amiyr is genuine ceases to be of relevance. Remain silent and let him speak then when you have the full information, only then shall you judge, judge with wisdom and take the best of it. This is my understanding of the decree of God according to several quranic verses.
Peace
Salam Brother,
You haven't continued this thread for a long time now, is there any other place/forum where you are active?
Thanks
Let me quote again from the condensed summary of the introduction.
By centralization ('alif = )
and single revolution (yaa' = )
around the chosen ONE (baa' = )
the numbers were transformed and stood motionless and mum
as concentric circles each represented by (miym) in the two-dimensional plane represented by K = (Kaaf = )
-thousands and millions and billions of numbers transformed into circles one
beyond the other without end.
Behold!
The numbers of a line called Laammmmmmmmmm
transformed into circles in a plane called K = (Kaaf = )
standing and directed and awaiting the call to life and be guided by
The Wise Book
Alif LaaMMiyM
(y = mx + L).
All in submission and in the name of
ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD
on the straight road from beginning to end.
Do you remember our basic discussion about dimensions? Let us refresh our memories because a proper understanding of what dimensions are is vital to our entering the Book (al-kitaab).
What is a dimension? or what are dimensions?
There are a number of ways one can think of what a dimension is or what dimensions are. Here, for now, I will describe it as a medium or space or direction in which one can move; locate position; or measure distance.
http//theholytablemountain.net/K.apoint.pnghttp//theholytablemountain.net/K.aline.and.circle.png
http//theholytablemountain.net/K.aplane.png
http//theholytablemountain.net/K.asolid.png
Bear in mind the following!
al-kitaab means the Book. al = the and kitaab = book and comes from the Arabic triliteral verbal root letters kataba which among others has the following primary meaning he wrote or he penned.
al-qur'aan means the Reading or the Recitation or the Reading and Recitation. al = the and qur'aan = reading or recitation or reading and recitation and comes from the Arabic triliteral verbal root letters qara'a which has the following primary meaning he read or he recited or he read and he recited.
The kitaab is the writing (written script) of the qur'aan and the qur'aan is the reading or recitation or the reading and recitation of the book.
Now the writing or written script of the Qur'aan has two functions.
1)- for the world to read/recite.
2)- to explain the Book (al-kitaab).In previous posts I have described for you the two manifolds of one dimension; the line and the circle.
1)- Laam ( )producing a line and 2)- miym ( ) producing a circle. Now I am going to show you how the Book (al-kitaab) defines the second dimension and which letter represents it.
By centralization ('alif = )
and single revolution (yaa' = )
around the chosen ONE (baa' = )
the numbers were transformed and stood motionless and mum
as concentric circles each represented by (miym) in the two-dimensional plane represented by K = (Kaaf = )
-thousands and millions and billions of numbers transformed into circles one beyond the other without end.
After ALLAAH had brought the numbers into existence 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1- - - - - > and turned them around the one (b = ) , they all stood as single units or circles. Then He took them to a higher dimension be squaring them. Let us see how they were squared.
1 x 1 or 1 ^ 2 = 1
2 x 2 or 2 ^ 2 = 4
3 x 3 or 3 ^ 2 = 9
4 x 4 or 3 ^ 2 = 16
5 x 5 or 5 ^ 2 = 25
6 x 6 or 6 ^ 2 = 36
7 x 7 or 7 ^ 2 = 49
8 x 8 or 8 ^ 2 = 64
9 x 9 or 9 ^ 2 = 81
10 x10 or 10 ^10 =100Look at the answers at right; 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100. They are called square numbers. All square numbers in the Book (al-kitaab) are represented by the letter Kaaf ( )or English Kay (k)
Let us have a look at how the square numbers are delineated in the Book (al-kitaab).
http//theholytablemountain.net/Kaafnotes1.png
Here is a graphical representation of the first square number 1x1=1.
http//theholytablemountain.net/Kaaf1x1.png
Remember that there were first only numbers in a straight line creating the line laammmmmmmmm--->. The numbers were then turned around the central axis called 'alif within the surrounding b. The central 'alif and the b create the word 'ab ( father ) and the surrounding mmmms (ems) create the word 'umm ( mother ).
Remember that the l (el) represent the infinite undefined nature of ALLAAH and the r ( ar ) represent his Spirit ( ruwh ). Go back to previous posts where these are all explained.Remember when ALLAAH began to create the world, He divided the infinity into two represented by b. The outer limited world up to the b He called the False and the outer world plus the inner world through the b He called the Truth. Whichever of the m (ems) did not take the guidance or right direction would eventually meet its doom when it arrives at the b which is a barrier to the infinite journey. But whichever m followed the guidance or right direction would eventually enter the infinite world through the b and will be blessed (baraka) and see the glory (subhaan) of ALLAAH. It is here where every m will witness that ALLAAH is the r in the b that possesses (rabba) everything beyond ("aalamiyn = worlds). I will go further into all the detail, here or somewhere else, when the time permits inshaa allaah.
ALLAAH made the first b to be the bayt (house of His ruwh (Spirit). He squared it and called the square k and then created bk or bakkah, the first house as mentioned in the qur'aan. Surrounding bakkah were all the other circles (m) and squares (k) and then created makkah. bakkah the first square in makkah. And there is the explanation of what is meant in the qur'aan when ALLAH says;
Qur'aan 003096
George Sale
Verily the first house appointed unto men to worship in was that which is in Becca; blessed, and a direction to all creatures.
M. M. Pickthall
Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Becca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;
Hamid S. Aziz
Verily, the first House founded for men was surely that at Bekkah (Mecca), a blessed place and a guidance to the worlds.
Aisha Bewley
The first House established for mankind was that at Bakka, a place of blessing and a guidance for all beings.
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In it are clear signs the place of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be secure. And God is owed from mankind to make Pilgrimage to the sanctuary, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.
Aisha Bewley
In it are Clear Signs ? the Maqam of Ibrahim. All who enter it are safe. Hajj to the House is a duty owed to Allah by all mankind ? those who can find a way to do it. But if anyone is kafir, Allah is Rich Beyond Need of any being.
Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali
Therein are supremely evident signs the station of Ibrahim. (Abraham) And whoever enters it is secure. And it is (a duty) upon mankind towards Allah (to come) to the Home on Pilgrimage, for whomever is able to make a way to it. And (as for) him who has disbelieved, then surely Allah is Ever-Affluent, (Literally Ever-Rich) (dispensing) with the worlds.
Below is a graphical presentation of bakkah in makkah. Keep in mind that the meaning of the actual qur'aanic letters (aayaat) generates the geometric delineations. They are not just linked without any connection.
http//theholytablemountain.net/Kaaf2x2a.png
This post is much longer but I decided afterwards to divide it into three posts for better examination. In posts to come there shall be discussions on the following.
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the letter qaaf ( ) which represent square roots, divisions, spirals, the involute of a circle, divisions, inverse operations, etc. The connections of the qaaf with other letters determine its various functions. The qaaf is closely connected to the kaaf.
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the sine, cosine, and tangent functions.
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the letter jiym ( ) which represent matter. Remember that there were first numbers ( m) that were turned around to become miym. When the miym were turned into faster spin it became jiym. ja"ala = to make and jasama = to become body or matter.
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the letter haa' ( ) ( remember that this letter is not the English H but the breath sound coming from the throat). The haa' represents the empty space when the miym is set in motion. For now think of it as the empty space of the inside the circle.
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the letter khaa' ( ) which represent the end result of that which has been created, etc.
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the fourteen sun letters which represent vector quantities and the 14 moon letters which represent scalar quantities.
Also have a good look at the following diagram. You can comment upon it if you wish before its explanation. If you have understood the previous posts well, you should have no problem understanding it.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Saad.png
These are some of the letters which shall be discussed inshaa allaah. When they have been understood, then it shall be seen how the qur'aan becomes a description of the reality - a fully detailed book leaving out nothing including the photographs and sounds of the fingerprints of your fingers and whatever is beyond.
And the praise be to ALLAAH the LORD of the worlds.
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These are some of the letters which shall be discussed inshaa allaah. When they have been understood, then it shall be seen how the qur'aan becomes a description of the reality - a fully detailed book leaving out nothing including the photographs and sounds of the fingerprints of your fingers and whatever is beyond.
Salam brother ,
Studying and following with you the above knowledge with interest and appreciation , and may allah reward you for your effort bringing this out.
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Salam brother ,
Studying and following with you the above knowledge with interest and appreciation , and may allah reward you for your effort bringing this out.
+salaam brother Alkitaab
I have been reading upon your old posts and were quite amazed how close you were to so much of this knowledge. Surely there were only a few who could begin to grasp what you were really saying. I hope that you can continue with your explanations because I found in them many jewels that could be used to explain the Book (al-kitaab).
Also I hope that you are following the Qur'aan Cosmological Model. Soon it will be combined with the book (al-kitaab). The two are inextricably linked to each other resulting in the Qur'aan Etymological, Phonological, Orthographic and other Models. Also pay close attention to the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model.
Shukran and keep well inshaa ALLAAH.
+salaam
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Hello AL- Amiyr
I don't think some people here understand the big words you have thrown out. "Phonological" "etymological" "orthographic" models etc of Quran.
I will just translate for others He is saying to study Quran from a Linguists perspective i.e someone who has the knowledge of how languages evolved, words/ sentences are made and how certain vocals sounds are produced.
Cheers
+salaam brother Alkitaab
I have been reading upon your old posts and were quite amazed how close you were to so much of this knowledge. Surely there were only a few who could begin to grasp what you were really saying. I hope that you can continue with your explanations because I found in them many jewels that could be used to explain the Book (al-kitaab).
Also I hope that you are following the Qur'aan Cosmological Model. Soon it will be combined with the book (al-kitaab). The two are inextricably linked to each other resulting in the Qur'aan Etymological, Phonological, Orthographic and other Models. Also pay close attention to the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model.
Shukran and keep well inshaa ALLAAH.
+salaam
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Hello AL- Amiyr
I don't think some people here understand the big words you have thrown out. "Phonological" "etymological" "orthographic" models etc of Quran.
I will just translate for others He is saying to study Quran from a Linguists perspective i.e someone who has the knowledge of how languages evolved, words/ sentences are made and how certain vocals sounds are produced.
Cheers
Dear RidaKhan
Your definitions of what I mean by The Qur'aan Phonological, Etymological, Orthographic, Models etc are incorrect. Please do not define on behalf of others. That can be misleading just like the new thread that you have started
"WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE PREACHING HERE? And WHO IS MONITORING THESE THREADS?" ( In that thread you insinuate al-amiyr as a sort of example). Yet I am not preaching but presenting nothing but pure qur'aanic knowledge without the condemnation of anybody or their views. Why the 'apparent hostile approach' on the first day of your registration. Or would it be misleading if I were to think of you as another disguise of 'justmuslim' with her usual tricks to try and turn people against me. Did you know that 90% of my critics have ceased to criticize me on this forum and on other forums around the world. I have been sent many emails from many members thanking me for my contributions and many have expressed their regrets for being too 'harsh' or judgmental of me in the beginning. Some have even expressed this in the threads as well. Did you not see that I have toned down on all my posts and kept my presence at a minimum. So that all your complains you had could be addressed.
There are so many in this world who want their voices to be heard but at the same time they want to deny others from making theirs heard. What a hypocrisy! I hope that you will not start another campaign against me but work this out in a qur'aanic way if you can. And inshaa ALLAAH after everything I intend to do. -
Dear RidaKhan
Your definitions of what I mean by The Qur'aan Phonological, Etymological, Orthographic, Models etc are incorrect. Please do not define on behalf of others. That can be misleading just like the new thread that you have started
"WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE PREACHING HERE? And WHO IS MONITORING THESE THREADS?" ( In that thread you insinuate al-amiyr as a sort of example). Yet I am not preaching but presenting nothing but pure qur'aanic knowledge without the condemnation of anybody or their views. Why the 'apparent hostile approach' on the first day of your registration.I am not even gonna argue with you. It was necessary to mention that you are "clearly" preaching and obtaining many followers. (Thus no surprise about you are getting "thankful" emails, I AM GETTING THOSE TOO LOL!!!). And anyone who disagree with what you are doing, you just tell him/her off for being "hostile".
I will continue to define your big words like "phonology" and "orthographic" etc because everyone has the right to know what these words mean in common English. As I fear, many young people may be reading these threads thinking that anyone who throws in big words is likely to be an "expert" on Quran, which from what I have observed is certainly not true here.
So yes, go ahead, preach and post "your views" and continue to copy/paste verses from the Quran. As a Muslim, I personally think you are making a mockery out of Quran here on the threads, when EVERYONE CAN GET A COPY OF THE QURAN FROM GOOGLE.
So, genius followers, did any of you think of that before sending Al- amiyr thank you messages?
Guess not. But if you do google Quran, I personally recommend Quran Explorers and the translations by Yusuf Ali. Only for English speakers though.
Though, I think al-amiyr has done a pretty good job of copying/ pasting the entire Quran lol.
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I am not even gonna argue with you. It was necessary to mention that you are "clearly" preaching and obtaining many followers. (Thus no surprise about you are getting "thankful" emails, I AM GETTING THOSE TOO LOL!!!). And anyone who disagree with what you are doing, you just tell him/her off for being "hostile".
I will continue to define your big words like "phonology" and "orthographic" etc because everyone has the right to know what these words mean in common English. As I fear, many young people may be reading these threads thinking that anyone who throws in big words is likely to be an "expert" on Quran, which from what I have observed is certainly not true here.
So yes, go ahead, preach and post "your views" and continue to copy/paste verses from the Quran. As a Muslim, I personally think you are making a mockery out of Quran here on the threads, when EVERYONE CAN GET A COPY OF THE QURAN FROM GOOGLE.
So, genius followers, did any of you think of that before sending Al- amiyr thank you messages?
Guess not. But if you do google Quran, I personally recommend Quran Explorers and the translations by Yusuf Ali. Only for English speakers though.
Though, I think al-amiyr has done a pretty good job of copying/ pasting the entire Quran lol.
So you are advocating that the owner and moderators of Free-Forums should ban me from this forum. Every time you appear in new guise to attack from another angle. Remember that this is the internet and whatever I have said or anyone else might be always on record. I myself make a record of all my correspondence and I re-read what I have written and others have responded.
Take note that to me you are non other than 'justamuslim', Amnew, Allecats, etc.. As I told you last time that I know your tricks and I am not one to be easily fooled. Prove me wrong. Is this the way you go about spreading your ideology by denying others the right to speak and others the right to hear. This is a grave arrogance.
It is funny that you accuse me of pasting the whole qur'aan when there have been others speaking about how little I quote the qur'aan. Why do you not just point out where I have made mistakes. Maybe then I can see my flaws if there are any. I close off with a limerick for goodwill.
A Flea and a Fly in a Flue
A flea and a fly in a flue
Were imprisoned, so what could they do?
Said the fly, "let us flee!"
"Let us fly!" said the flea.
So they flew through a flaw in the flue.
--Ogden NashDon't now go about accusing me again that I am likening you to a flying flea or a fleeing fly like you did about the one of the tiger. handshake
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Salaam al-amiyr,
I think RidaKhan is not among those you mentioned, I mean a clone of justamuslim, but surely seems to be a bit of a besserwisser though.
I have yet not understood your message, but I do not discredit or refute your claims without a proper study.
By the way islam, muslim and salaam all come from the same root right? Was something I have to make clear and you seem to be good at Arabic.
I am happy that Iran removed the ban of free minds, so I was able to check here now and read replies to all posts. Right now I am on my smartphone, but I when I get home I will write proper posts.
God bless you
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Salaam Bender
Here is something worth reading for you;
GentlemenThe starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is
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DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
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All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
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Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
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Let's review where we've been in this thread. I have said(1) The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code.
Much effort has been made to discredit this statement, unsuccessfully. This statement is fully and explicitly supported in virtually all of the scientific literature since the 1960s.
(2) All codes that we know the origin of come from a mind.
Much effort has been expended to discredit this statement as well. Assertions have been attempted that gravity, snowflakes, magma flows and the like are codes. But none accurately conforms to Shannon's communication model. Most of the examples cited do not contain an encoding system, and none contain a decoding system.
(3) Therefore DNA came from a mind.
The objection to this statement has been that the conclusion is reached inductively. Complaints have been lodged that inductive reasoning is inherently unreliable. But we do observe that the laws of thermodynamics and in fact the majority of known scientific laws are determined inductively and not deductively. If you wish to throw out inductive reasoning, then we can discard almost all scientific knowledge and start all over again and use rocks and sticks to make fire.
Thus we have, right here on the Infidels discussion forum, after more than 300 posts, robust evidence that life was intelligently designed.
It is not possible for me to persuade people to believe in God if they do not want to; that is not my job. But one can hope that some will follow the evidence, wherever it leads.
Perry Marshall
http//www.vina.cc/news/index.php/General/DNA-proves-the-existence-of-God.html
Salaamsalaam
The Universe is an Illusion, But Consciousness Isn't
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byqy249bXkc
Comments welcome
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Salaam,
Post No. 17 is overdue. Will you please come up with.
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Salaam,
Post No. 17 is overdue. Will you please come up with.
salaam+
Yes! Post 17 is long overdue and it would not have been long overdue if it was not due to some threats of closure by certain persons who present themselves as promoters of freedom of speech but really do not like it at all when it begins to destroy their world views.
I am still waiting for the moderators to respond to my request why they closed the thread The Qur'aan Cosmological Model. I am busy on another 50 other forums and can truly say that this forum is the first who have particularly blocked The Qur'aan Cosmological Model. I have been waiting for a reply now for about two months. Only one moderator returned to say that he did not block it.
In the meantime I would say that about 50% of the regular members of Free Minds have given me a very good positive response and many are learning the Book (al-kitaab) on other venues.Think about this
" Is it not strange that this forum has banned almost all members from South Africa for absolutely no reason. I have all the proofs for this. For example one lady whom I met only once in about twenty five years called to ask me why she was banned and she did not even post anything. She was a Christian and I showed her to the way of islaam in 1983 when she was 16 years old. Her children are now at university and they spoke to her about the Book (al-kitaab). She got into contact with me and I recommended her to join some forums to learn more. A few days later she was banned. This forum does not seem to be able to stomach this knowledge. It seems to go into a frenzy when the subject of the Book (al-kitaab) is discussed.
Every step I take here is monitored for an opportunity to justify a ban ( I was banned on five other forums over a year ago and I am discussing on another 50+).I will write again inshaa ALLAAH.
+salaam