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    adjwi
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    salaam al-amiyr

    Thank you for this post.

    adjwi

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      These are some of the letters which shall be discussed inshaa allaah. When they have been understood, then it shall be seen how the qur'aan becomes a description of the reality - a fully detailed book leaving out nothing including the photographs and sounds of the fingerprints of your fingers and whatever is beyond.

      Salam brother ,

      Studying and following with you the above knowledge with interest and appreciation , and may allah reward you for your effort bringing this out.

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        al-amiyr
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        Salam brother ,

        Studying and following with you the above knowledge with interest and appreciation , and may allah reward you for your effort bringing this out.

        +salaam brother Alkitaab

        I have been reading upon your old posts and were quite amazed how close you were to so much of this knowledge. Surely there were only a few who could begin to grasp what you were really saying. I hope that you can continue with your explanations because I found in them many jewels that could be used to explain the Book (al-kitaab).

        Also I hope that you are following the Qur'aan Cosmological Model. Soon it will be combined with the book (al-kitaab). The two are inextricably linked to each other resulting in the Qur'aan Etymological, Phonological, Orthographic and other Models. Also pay close attention to the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model.

        Shukran and keep well inshaa ALLAAH.

        +salaam

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          Hello AL- Amiyr

          I don't think some people here understand the big words you have thrown out. "Phonological" "etymological" "orthographic" models etc of Quran.

          I will just translate for others He is saying to study Quran from a Linguists perspective i.e someone who has the knowledge of how languages evolved, words/ sentences are made and how certain vocals sounds are produced.

          Cheers

          +salaam brother Alkitaab

          I have been reading upon your old posts and were quite amazed how close you were to so much of this knowledge. Surely there were only a few who could begin to grasp what you were really saying. I hope that you can continue with your explanations because I found in them many jewels that could be used to explain the Book (al-kitaab).

          Also I hope that you are following the Qur'aan Cosmological Model. Soon it will be combined with the book (al-kitaab). The two are inextricably linked to each other resulting in the Qur'aan Etymological, Phonological, Orthographic and other Models. Also pay close attention to the Qur'aan Lexicographical Model.

          Shukran and keep well inshaa ALLAAH.

          +salaam

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            Hello AL- Amiyr

            I don't think some people here understand the big words you have thrown out. "Phonological" "etymological" "orthographic" models etc of Quran.

            I will just translate for others He is saying to study Quran from a Linguists perspective i.e someone who has the knowledge of how languages evolved, words/ sentences are made and how certain vocals sounds are produced.

            Cheers

            Dear RidaKhan

            Your definitions of what I mean by The Qur'aan Phonological, Etymological, Orthographic, Models etc are incorrect. Please do not define on behalf of others. That can be misleading just like the new thread that you have started
            "WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE PREACHING HERE? And WHO IS MONITORING THESE THREADS?" ( In that thread you insinuate al-amiyr as a sort of example). Yet I am not preaching but presenting nothing but pure qur'aanic knowledge without the condemnation of anybody or their views. Why the 'apparent hostile approach' on the first day of your registration. Or would it be misleading if I were to think of you as another disguise of 'justmuslim' with her usual tricks to try and turn people against me. Did you know that 90% of my critics have ceased to criticize me on this forum and on other forums around the world. I have been sent many emails from many members thanking me for my contributions and many have expressed their regrets for being too 'harsh' or judgmental of me in the beginning. Some have even expressed this in the threads as well. Did you not see that I have toned down on all my posts and kept my presence at a minimum. So that all your complains you had could be addressed.
            There are so many in this world who want their voices to be heard but at the same time they want to deny others from making theirs heard. What a hypocrisy! I hope that you will not start another campaign against me but work this out in a qur'aanic way if you can. And inshaa ALLAAH after everything I intend to do.

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              Dear RidaKhan

              Your definitions of what I mean by The Qur'aan Phonological, Etymological, Orthographic, Models etc are incorrect. Please do not define on behalf of others. That can be misleading just like the new thread that you have started
              "WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE PREACHING HERE? And WHO IS MONITORING THESE THREADS?" ( In that thread you insinuate al-amiyr as a sort of example). Yet I am not preaching but presenting nothing but pure qur'aanic knowledge without the condemnation of anybody or their views. Why the 'apparent hostile approach' on the first day of your registration.

              I am not even gonna argue with you. It was necessary to mention that you are "clearly" preaching and obtaining many followers. (Thus no surprise about you are getting "thankful" emails, I AM GETTING THOSE TOO LOL!!!). And anyone who disagree with what you are doing, you just tell him/her off for being "hostile".

              I will continue to define your big words like "phonology" and "orthographic" etc because everyone has the right to know what these words mean in common English. As I fear, many young people may be reading these threads thinking that anyone who throws in big words is likely to be an "expert" on Quran, which from what I have observed is certainly not true here.

              So yes, go ahead, preach and post "your views" and continue to copy/paste verses from the Quran. As a Muslim, I personally think you are making a mockery out of Quran here on the threads, when EVERYONE CAN GET A COPY OF THE QURAN FROM GOOGLE.

              So, genius followers, did any of you think of that before sending Al- amiyr thank you messages?

              Guess not. But if you do google Quran, I personally recommend Quran Explorers and the translations by Yusuf Ali. Only for English speakers though.

              Though, I think al-amiyr has done a pretty good job of copying/ pasting the entire Quran lol.

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                I am not even gonna argue with you. It was necessary to mention that you are "clearly" preaching and obtaining many followers. (Thus no surprise about you are getting "thankful" emails, I AM GETTING THOSE TOO LOL!!!). And anyone who disagree with what you are doing, you just tell him/her off for being "hostile".

                I will continue to define your big words like "phonology" and "orthographic" etc because everyone has the right to know what these words mean in common English. As I fear, many young people may be reading these threads thinking that anyone who throws in big words is likely to be an "expert" on Quran, which from what I have observed is certainly not true here.

                So yes, go ahead, preach and post "your views" and continue to copy/paste verses from the Quran. As a Muslim, I personally think you are making a mockery out of Quran here on the threads, when EVERYONE CAN GET A COPY OF THE QURAN FROM GOOGLE.

                So, genius followers, did any of you think of that before sending Al- amiyr thank you messages?

                Guess not. But if you do google Quran, I personally recommend Quran Explorers and the translations by Yusuf Ali. Only for English speakers though.

                Though, I think al-amiyr has done a pretty good job of copying/ pasting the entire Quran lol.

                So you are advocating that the owner and moderators of Free-Forums should ban me from this forum. Every time you appear in new guise to attack from another angle. Remember that this is the internet and whatever I have said or anyone else might be always on record. I myself make a record of all my correspondence and I re-read what I have written and others have responded.

                Take note that to me you are non other than 'justamuslim', Amnew, Allecats, etc.. As I told you last time that I know your tricks and I am not one to be easily fooled. Prove me wrong. Is this the way you go about spreading your ideology by denying others the right to speak and others the right to hear. This is a grave arrogance.

                It is funny that you accuse me of pasting the whole qur'aan when there have been others speaking about how little I quote the qur'aan. Why do you not just point out where I have made mistakes. Maybe then I can see my flaws if there are any. I close off with a limerick for goodwill.

                A Flea and a Fly in a Flue

                A flea and a fly in a flue
                Were imprisoned, so what could they do?
                Said the fly, "let us flee!"
                "Let us fly!" said the flea.
                So they flew through a flaw in the flue.
                --Ogden Nash

                Don't now go about accusing me again that I am likening you to a flying flea or a fleeing fly like you did about the one of the tiger. handshake

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                  Salaam al-amiyr,

                  I think RidaKhan is not among those you mentioned, I mean a clone of justamuslim, but surely seems to be a bit of a besserwisser though.

                  I have yet not understood your message, but I do not discredit or refute your claims without a proper study.

                  By the way islam, muslim and salaam all come from the same root right? Was something I have to make clear and you seem to be good at Arabic.

                  I am happy that Iran removed the ban of free minds, so I was able to check here now and read replies to all posts. Right now I am on my smartphone, but I when I get home I will write proper posts.

                  God bless you

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                    salaam al-amyr,

                    Would you please pursue to Post 17? Thank you.

                    adjwi

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                      Salaam Bender

                      Here is something worth reading for you;
                      Gentlemen

                      The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is

                      1. DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.

                      2. All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.

                      3. Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

                      If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.

                      Perry Marshall
                      ....
                      Let's review where we've been in this thread. I have said

                      (1) The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code.

                      Much effort has been made to discredit this statement, unsuccessfully. This statement is fully and explicitly supported in virtually all of the scientific literature since the 1960s.

                      (2) All codes that we know the origin of come from a mind.

                      Much effort has been expended to discredit this statement as well. Assertions have been attempted that gravity, snowflakes, magma flows and the like are codes. But none accurately conforms to Shannon's communication model. Most of the examples cited do not contain an encoding system, and none contain a decoding system.

                      (3) Therefore DNA came from a mind.

                      The objection to this statement has been that the conclusion is reached inductively. Complaints have been lodged that inductive reasoning is inherently unreliable. But we do observe that the laws of thermodynamics and in fact the majority of known scientific laws are determined inductively and not deductively. If you wish to throw out inductive reasoning, then we can discard almost all scientific knowledge and start all over again and use rocks and sticks to make fire.

                      Thus we have, right here on the Infidels discussion forum, after more than 300 posts, robust evidence that life was intelligently designed.

                      It is not possible for me to persuade people to believe in God if they do not want to; that is not my job. But one can hope that some will follow the evidence, wherever it leads.

                      Perry Marshall
                      http//www.vina.cc/news/index.php/General/DNA-proves-the-existence-of-God.html
                      Salaam

                      salaam
                      The Universe is an Illusion, But Consciousness Isn't
                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byqy249bXkc
                      Comments welcome
                      peace

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                        Salaam,

                        Post No. 17 is overdue. Will you please come up with.

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Salaam,

                          Post No. 17 is overdue. Will you please come up with.

                          salaam+

                          Yes! Post 17 is long overdue and it would not have been long overdue if it was not due to some threats of closure by certain persons who present themselves as promoters of freedom of speech but really do not like it at all when it begins to destroy their world views.
                          I am still waiting for the moderators to respond to my request why they closed the thread The Qur'aan Cosmological Model. I am busy on another 50 other forums and can truly say that this forum is the first who have particularly blocked The Qur'aan Cosmological Model. I have been waiting for a reply now for about two months. Only one moderator returned to say that he did not block it.
                          In the meantime I would say that about 50% of the regular members of Free Minds have given me a very good positive response and many are learning the Book (al-kitaab) on other venues.

                          Think about this
                          " Is it not strange that this forum has banned almost all members from South Africa for absolutely no reason. I have all the proofs for this. For example one lady whom I met only once in about twenty five years called to ask me why she was banned and she did not even post anything. She was a Christian and I showed her to the way of islaam in 1983 when she was 16 years old. Her children are now at university and they spoke to her about the Book (al-kitaab). She got into contact with me and I recommended her to join some forums to learn more. A few days later she was banned. This forum does not seem to be able to stomach this knowledge. It seems to go into a frenzy when the subject of the Book (al-kitaab) is discussed.
                          Every step I take here is monitored for an opportunity to justify a ban ( I was banned on five other forums over a year ago and I am discussing on another 50+).

                          I will write again inshaa ALLAAH.

                          +salaam

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                            Salaam al-amiyr,

                            It has gone so long I have started to wonder where you went.

                            God bless you

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                              farida
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                              salaam

                              I am one of the old members that were banned, a few years back, when debating the subject of ?Hot Ramadhan?. After some time the forum went quiet and the ban was lifted. Being banned from the forum is not a pleasant experience; one feels like never returning. However I felt it?s my duty to speak up for what, in my view is right, so I started once more to take part in the discussions from previous ramDaan.

                              A few months back I again received a warning, from a moderator, for starting a thread that questioned their policies. I have been here long enough by now to know that this forum?s relative popularity is not derived from its administrators, but from some very genuine members who, like me, are seeking knowledge, so I again pushed my ego aside and resumed posting.

                              I?m finally entering the Hidden Book in earnest, and the feeling is great, so I wanted to share that. I am able now to work out the meanings of many words, from the Qur?aan, like what and where is ?muqaam-e-Ibrahiym?. At other times I have learned the innate meanings of words, written in English letters. Just this morning the word END came to my mind and I was able to work out, from my knowledge of al-kitaab of what the letters E and N stand for, to D for duration. There I had in full the explanation of the word END.

                              At other times I am googling away, looking in awe at the structure of a molecule or an atom. Amazed at the favours of ALLAAH that surround us, the more I look the more my eyes turn back ?humbled and defeated?. Often I?m anxious to get to the next lesson, as I too am waiting for it, but then next morning my eyes open to fresh findings, and then I realise that I?m still not ready for the next stage.

                              So to all those who are anxious for the next post I say; if I can learn from the Book then so can you. All we need is dedication and ALLAAH will help us. Use every minute to understand fully what has been given to us, in drawing and writing from al-kitaab. Make your own drawings and if you feel that the diagrams are somehow in conflict with the letters of the Qur'aan, then confront him, with constructive criticism. I too checked his posts with a critical eye but I was unable to detect any fabrication. If others can, then do bring it out.

                              Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the last nabiyh and messenger, and that ALLAH?s message to all mankind was perfected in the Qur?aan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
                              (1644)
                              and for us record 5452

                              This is the era when with a click of a button technology lays open all sorts of information right in front of us now is the time to learn who guarded for us the documentary proofs for us to see with our own eyes signs from ALLAH and His ultimate Grand Plan.
                              3542. They swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner came to them, they would follow his guidance better than any (other) of the Peoples But when a warner came to them, it has only increased their flight (from righteousness),

                              May ALLAAH guide all to learn from His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

                              salaam+

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                                salaam

                                Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the last nabiyh and messenger, and that ALLAH?s message to all mankind was perfected in the Qur?aan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
                                (1644)
                                and for us record 5452

                                May ALLAAH guide all to learn from His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

                                salaam+

                                With your statement above can you explain what the below verses mean to you

                                2129 ?Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from among themselves, that he may recite to them Your revelations and teach them the Book and the wisdom, and purify them. You are the Noble, the Wise.?

                                2151 As We have sent a messenger to you from among yourselves to recite Our revelations to you, and purify you, and teach you the Book and the wisdom, and teach you what you did not know.

                                3164 God has bestowed grace upon the believers by sending them a messenger from among themselves reciting His revelations and purifying them and teaching them the Book and the wisdom, and they were before in manifest darkness.

                                386 How can God guide a people who have rejected after believing, and they had witnessed that the messenger was true, and the clarity had come to them? God does not guide the wicked people.

                                3132 And obey God and the messenger so that you may obtain mercy.

                                353 ?Our Lord, we believe in what You have sent down, and followed the messenger, so record us with those who bear witness.?

                                3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

                                353 ?Our Lord, we believe in what You have sent down, and followed the messenger, so record us with those who bear witness.?

                                Regards

                                BalaChandran

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                                  farida
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                                  With your statement above can you explain what the below verses mean to you

                                  Regards

                                  BalaChandran

                                  Do you understand the gravity of your question; do you realise Whose prerogative it is to explain His revelations?
                                  (7519)
                                  If you still don?t get it, then what will explain to 'thee'
                                  Al-Qur'aan 7427, 7714, 8217/18, 838, 8319, 1013, 10110, 1045

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                                    Do you understand the gravity of your question; do you realise Whose prerogative it is to explain His revelations?
                                    (7519)
                                    If you still dont get it, then what will explain to 'thee'
                                    Al-Qur'aan 7427, 7714, 8217/18, 838, 8319, 1013, 10110, 1045

                                    Hope I have not commited sin to go to hell by asking you a simple question.

                                    Let me rephrase my question as to what is the Quranic reference to your belief

                                    salaam

                                    Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the last nabiyh and messenger, and that ALLAHs message to all mankind was perfected in the Quraan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
                                    (1644)

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                                      farida
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                                      Hope I have not commited sin to go to hell by asking you a simple question.

                                      It is not for me to guide you, pray to ALLAAH to lead you to His straight path pr

                                      Let me rephrase my question as to what is the Quranic reference to your belief

                                      Each to his own, I owe you no explanation concerning my beliefs.
                                      peace

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                                        al-amiyr
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                                        Salaam al-amiyr,

                                        It has gone so long I have started to wonder where you went.

                                        God bless you

                                        salaam+ Man of Faith

                                        Do not worry! ) I have been regularly visiting the site and probably read most of your posts during this time as well. Thank you and my God bless you as well.

                                        al-amiyr

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                                          As far as I understand, it is against the Sunnatullah to be behave like a filthy dictator. Creating an enabling environment thereby facilitating people to choose from wright and wrong, is a well defined Divine Law. Allah(swt) allowed even the Shaitan to exist with all its might whom we confront each and every moment. So why there is a need to put a censorship on anyone from expressing one's views peacefully. After all, each one of us has got the faculty of understanding. I think brother Al-Amiyr may be allowed to complete his project without any undue hassle. I hope administration will have a re-think.

                                          Salaam!

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