More salat and ra'kat discussion
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Peace Birdy,
Are you looking for only the word or the whole phrase? Anyway is what you asked about.
The whole phrase 961 READ in the name of thy Sustainer, who has-
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2238 does not mention DAILY Salaats, but that is what we logically understand from it, i.e. we perform SALAAH, as a DAILY ritual.
Salaamun alayka,
243 And aqeemoo alssalata waatoo alzzakata and kneel with those who kneel.
How many times a day do you understand from this ayaat that we have to perform the sallaat.
And what about al-zakaat? Is it also on daily basis?The root word ?WA-SA-TA? means middle, center, midmost, midst, midway, halfway, average, median, medium, moderate, and neutral.
In all the verses you?ve mentioned, it more or less, means the same. In 2143 it can mean, moderate and or neutral. In 589 it means, median and or moderate. In 6828 it means one from their midst.
2143
Are we just a moderate umma '(
589
What does "median"/"moderate" food mean?
6828
Wat was the best man doing in the story?
Peace,
KhalilSalaam,
Bender -
Peace Bender,
So your translation would be
You shall consistently observe the Contact Prayers, especially the middle prayer, foremost prayer and devote yourselves totally to GOD
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Salaamun alayka,
I do not agree with the red highlighted, but for the rest it is an ok translation.
why & ?
Salaam,
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Peace Bender,
What is your translation of the entire verse (2/23?
peace
Salaamun alayka,
something like this
2238 Be secure over your connections/contacts and the foremost connection/contact and raise up to Allah qanitina.
Sorry not sure yet how to understand the last word.
Salaam,
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Peace Bender,
I apologize for my oversight, as far as the & is concerned, I just had the urge.
There is also another icon I would like to use but haven't had a chance yet,
so here goes brickwall brickwall brickwall aaahh much better.Back to your translation.
Salaamun alayka,
something like this
2238 Be secure over your connections/contacts and the foremost connection/contact and raise up to Allah qanitina.
Sorry not sure yet how to understand the last word.
Salaam,
Bender-
I am not fond of the forward slash, I prefer the translator to make a decision as
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The word foremost while grammatically correct is too ambiguous, what I mean by
too ambiguous is, which connection/contact are you referring to, if there are three or
five contact/connections, your translation does not denote which connection/contact
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I see no problem with "qnitna" being translated as very or devoutly obedient.
Just my opinion
God Bless
peace
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Peace Bender,
I apologize for my oversight, as far as the & is concerned, I just had the urge.
Salaamun alayka,
you scared me
There is also another icon I would like to use but haven't had a chance yet,
so here goes brickwall brickwall brickwall aaahh much better.Back to your translation.
- I am not fond of the forward slash, I prefer the translator to make a decision as
to what it is they want to say.
I understand.
I am still not sure which word is a better translation, thats why I used the slash.- The word foremost while grammatically correct is too ambiguous, what I mean by
too ambiguous is, which connection/contact are you referring to, if there are three or
five contact/connections, your translation does not denote which connection/contact
is the foremost.
GREEN Does the arabic denotes which connection/contact is the foremost hmm
Anyways, more then 2 years ago, I thought the same as you, thus that it was referring to a middle prayer in a day.
Then after some study of the word "wusta" and the verse I was sure "wusta" could not mean "middle".
The only explanation I had, was that it could probably refer to the sallaat on the day of aljumuaa.
But with time I saw more and more flaws in this "aljumuaa" theory. So I rejected it.
Then Allah showed me
2014 "I am God, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the sallaat for My remembrance."
What sallaat could be more important then that hail
If you have any then I am very happy to know.- I see no problem with "qnitna" being translated as very or devoutly obedient.
Sure it could be, I never studied the word so I keep at the moment every option open.
Just my opinion
God Bless
peace
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May Allah bless you too pr
Bender - I am not fond of the forward slash, I prefer the translator to make a decision as
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2238 does not mention DAILY Salaats, but that is what we logically understand from it, i.e. we perform SALAAH, as a DAILY ritual.
The root word ?WA-SA-TA? means middle, center, midmost, midst, midway, halfway, average, median, medium, moderate, and neutral.
In all the verses you?ve mentioned, it more or less, means the same. In 2143 it can mean, moderate and or neutral. In 589 it means, median and or moderate. In 6828 it means one from their midst.
2143
589
6828
I agree with this for salatul wusta.
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Peace be upon you.
I'm in complete agreement with your post and I'm glad to find someone who thinks like me. Although I have changed the wordings in my salat, and I hope to keep changing it every once in a while, it still consists of rakahs with the traditional pattern of 2-4-4-3-4.
Salaam!
I keep my rakaat to 4 or 2 depending on time and mood. I think it's perfectly acceptable to do so as God knows sometimes I'm so tired, but I try to aim for 4 always with intention beforehand.
I do Salat al-Fajr before sunrise, Salat al-Wustu at midday and Salat al-Isha after sunset. I reserve Dhikrullah (meditation on Allah's qualities) for after midnight when possible. I also practice this in jama'at with two, three or sometimes four others here in London. We have a very cheap space for this and we call our group Masjid Ahl al-Qur'an.
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3 has no middle you said in an earlier post? If the word PEN has 3 letters, wouldn't the letter E be the middle one?