Where is the Golden Rule in the Quran?
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ahlul-hadithism may be the word to use here because israfeel is apparently not sunni and there is some distinction between the two. don't know if he'll take exception to being called sunni if hes not quite sunni etc.
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Israfeel,
I showed you the golden rule, are you gonna send me the 1000USD ?
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Good question. The Golden Rule would mean that you should feed a poor person because if you yourself were poor and hungry you would like others to help you and give you food out of kindness.
See how beautiful the Golden Rule is. Problem is Golden Rule is never mentioned in Quran, only in Hadith. Alhamdulillah.
AlhamduliAllah... I don't fall under your Golden Rule which is made by Your Sahih Muslim and Wikipedia and NOT approved by Allah in the way it is presented.
It is not beautiful because it is NOT practical. Before challenging Allah and His Book, look at your self, will you fit in this position? I don't think so... because it is impractical, hence, Allah never make for such rules for His creation.
As per my previous question, your golden rule is against alQuraan. Because I don't expect others to feed me if I become poor, but I expect it from my Lord who created me. AlhamduliAllah hail
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2678 Who created me, and He guides me.2679
2679 And it is He who feeds me and gives me drink.2680
2680 And when I am ill, it is He who cures me2681
2681 And who will cause me to die and then bring me to lifeYour golden rule fails here on ever point. If I serve someone do I expect him to serve me? &
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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AlhamduliAllah... I don't fall under your Golden Rule which is made by Your Sahih Muslim and Wikipedia and NOT approved by Allah in the way it is presented.
I appreciate your honesty that the Golden Rule isn't in the Quran and that you don't believe in it.
If only your fellow Quranists would be as honest as you and admit the Golden Rule is not in the Quran.
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It seems you believe in golden rule more that you believe in the word of God...funny...
As I said before that rule is not at all practical, it's actually terrible
PEOPLE SOMETIME WISH FOR THEMSELVES THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD FOR THEM...if you apply the "rule" here it would be terrible,
Also sometimes (actually most of the time) the things we wish for us are not good for others (your "golden rule" fails here too)So think about your "Golden rule" which you put in higher position that the WORD of God.
Peace.
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I appreciate your honesty that the Golden Rule isn't in the Quran and that you don't believe in it.
If only your fellow Quranists would be as honest as you and admit the Golden Rule is not in the Quran.
Thank you...
It is against alQuraan as it is explained earlier. And I see how beautifully you ignored the rest of my earlier post without being honest to me as I am to you
May Allah bless you pr
mmKhan -
It seems you believe in golden rule more that you believe in the word of God...funny...
As I said before that rule is not at all practical, it's actually terrible
PEOPLE SOMETIME WISH FOR THEMSELVES THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD FOR THEM...if you apply the "rule" here it would be terrible,
Also sometimes (actually most of the time) the things we wish for us are not good for others (your "golden rule" fails here too)So think about your "Golden rule" which you put in higher position that the WORD of God.
Peace.
Exactly!
I agree with you handshakePeace and May Allah bless you pr
mmKhan -
It seems you believe in golden rule more that you believe in the word of God...funny...
As I said before that rule is not at all practical, it's actually terrible
PEOPLE SOMETIME WISH FOR THEMSELVES THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD FOR THEM...if you apply the "rule" here it would be terrible,
Also sometimes (actually most of the time) the things we wish for us are not good for others (your "golden rule" fails here too)So think about your "Golden rule" which you put in higher position that the WORD of God.
Peace.
The Golden Rule is a general principle, meaning like most general principles it may have exceptions where it shouldn't be applied. But generally speaking, the Golden Rule also known as the Rule of Thumb is accepted worldwide by all humanity as a universal moral code to live by - all humanity except the Quranists of course.
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Peace,
As far as I am concerned, the phrase "treat your neighbor as yourself" was allegedly uttered by Jesus believably roughly 2000 years ago and has nothing to do with hadith of Muhammad. Of course, Muhammad may have reused the expression since it is in the peaceful nature of God's religion.
If you are guided by God's Light this phrase turns into common sense and it is astonishing that one may say you cannot find paraphrasing of the behavior in the Quran and can draw the conclusion from it which means the same as Jesus' alleged expression back then.
Jesus believed that God would give him anything he needed and so should you. Since we may not be as strong in the Holy Spirit as Jesus, God gave us the Quran as a compensation.
Still, with or without the Quran, the Message will come to you as long as you stay patient and steadfast and worship God alone and do not associate any partners with Him. Quran is, as it claims itself to be, a guide for mankind, but people could be righteous before its revelation so it proves that in the bottom it comes down to trust in God and His system and steadfast reverence.
My inspiration/intuition I receive from my Lord is that the hadith commonly attributed to the prophet Muhammad are more or less a pile of dirt composed by people who thought they were clever.
God said "What other hadith than mine do they believe in?"
God means the scriptural information which he has sent down through inspiration and not man-made junk. It is blasphemous to attribute information to God which He had no role in. Hadith could be translated into something less awkward though. God's hadith means it was God who "spoke" recorded by someone, in the case of Quran, Muhammad.
God bless you
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As far as I am concerned, the phrase "treat your neighbor as yourself" was allegedly uttered by Jesus believably roughly 2000 years ago and has nothing to do with hadith of Muhammad. Of course, Muhammad may have reused the expression since it is in the peaceful nature of God's religion.
Actually "treat your neighbor as yourself" is not as broad and universal as the Hadith "Treat people as you love to be treated", because the former is restricted to neighbors, while the latter is for all human beings.
God said "What other hadith than mine do they believe in?"
That's not what the verse says. It says
So in which Hadeeth after that will they believe? If you look at the context, it is condemning the rejectors (not those who affirm the Sunnah). Hadeeth here is referring to what Allah has revealed (both Quran and Sunnah).
The Quran never says "What other hadith than mine do they believe in" totally wrong and misleading translation. See I know the Quran better than you Quranists.
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That is not the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule is "Treat others as you wish to be treated"
That verse is about golden rule ""Treat others as you wish to be treated" ..
You should send the money already ...
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Hahahah are you a joker?
That verse is not the golden rule.
But keep trying to find one.
Well, which verse is golden rule then ?
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Let me give you a hint The Golden Rule isn't in the Quran.
The Golden Rule is in the Hadith.
You said that golden rule is "Treat others as you wish to be treated" ; - so I showed u a verse where very explains as a whole of "Treat others as you wish to be treated" . Just read it and check it one more time.
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You said that golden rule is "Treat others as you wish to be treated" ; - so I showed u a verse where very explains as a whole of "Treat others as you wish to be treated" . Just read it and check it one more time.
The verse you quoted does not say "treat other as you wish to be treated"
I suggest you go back to ESL class.
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The verse you quoted does not say "treat other as you wish to be treated"
I suggest you go back to ESL class.
Do you want to be treated with peace ?
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Peace Israfeel,
Sorry to say, but the Quran means your beloved hadith. There is just one sunnah and that is God's sunnah. The hadith you refer to is just hocus pocus.
Hadith is not revelation, it is the invented garbage by hypocrites the Quran so often talks about.
And your translation supports my argument even more. Thank you for helping fight yourself )
The neighbor thing in the saying is not literal. It means you should treat everyone around you in a good way.
God bless you