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    ResearchingtheTruth
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    Hello everyone,

    I will begin by saying that I?m a muslim black female who also happens to be left-handed. I was brought up in a muslim sunni household.

    Even though my mother was more open minded compared to others, it still didn?t help when I raised issues about women?s restrictions/extreme submission, left-handedness etc., the conversions typically ended with me being told that I should not ask too many silly questions because it?s the devil that is making me question Islam. Another thing that bothered me was why we had to dress like the Arabs (no offense to any arabs btw). Everytime I went to our local mosque, the imams had the whole dress/long beard look going on and the women dressed in long ibaaya some with their faces covered etc. Do we really need to lose our African traditions in the process?

    Needles to say, I was never as strict in practising my religion as my family or close friends. I have used a head scarf and long skirts on and off most of my life. Luckily, my family never forced me to wear it. Regardless of this, growing up as a sunni muslim, I felt as though every move I made I was dictated down to using the left foot when entering the toilet! I know as muslims we have responsibilities and so on in case someone thinks I was just being lazy but when everything you do has rules? It just seemed too much for me at the time. Christianity and other religions weren?t really for me so I accepted that I was who I was and I prayed whenever I could?sometimes five times a day for weeks or months and I went some days without praying at all. One thing I have always asked Allah was to guide me towards the right path.

    So now as Ramadan is approacing, I got into the habbit of reading more about hadiths as I never really studied them. All I knew about hadiths were stuff I was taught in Quran lessons as a child and from my family/friends. So recently, after coming across some hadiths that were overtly judgemental, very racist, and oppressive, I really began questioning the validity of these hadiths. These sahihs were done by humans who claim that what they have written to be the absolute truth just because its their sahihs? Should I take their word for it just for that one reason? Anyone could write something and claim it to be real. Also, the more I read about it, the more ridiculous I found them. Putting women in the same category as black dogs and donkeys? Are they serious? And what?s wrong with donkeys and BLACK dogs? Who is he to place certain animals below others? What?s wrong with the colour black? After reading the hadiths that were targeted at black people --that?s when I stopped reading them altogether. Some say these are weak hadith ect etc. but some of them were bukhari?s sahihs. I researched whether the stuff mentioned in hadiths were in the Quran and I come to find most of it is not.

    So now I hope to find a well translated Quran and just study it through and through during ramadan and beyond. I can recite some of the Quran by heart (learned in Quran school as a child) but I never truly studied it. I was never motivated to learn about it because of my above mentioned experiences. I sincerely thought that everything that was in hadiths were in accordance to what was in the Quran so I just used to shrug it off and went about my day. This is a classic example of blind faith. I now hope to learn more by researching and studying about the Quran and hopefully making some new open-minded friends along the way)

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      Wakas
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      peace,

      Welcome to the forum.

      In terms of reading a Quran translation, there are many out there
      http//www.studyquran.org/EnglishTranslations.htm

      As long as one adopts an intelligent approach whilst reading one, most should be fine. I mainly use www.quranix.net when online.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Bender
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        Hello everyone,

        I will begin by saying that I?m a muslim black female who also happens to be left-handed.

        hopefully making some new open-minded friends along the way)

        Salaam and welcome to the forum handshake

        If you want to be my friend you first have to do something on the sins I highlighted above >

        May Allah bless you and guide you pr
        Bender

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          ResearchingtheTruth
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          In terms of reading a Quran translation, there are many out there
          http//www.studyquran.org/EnglishTranslations.htm

          As long as one adopts an intelligent approach whilst reading one, most should be fine. I mainly use www.quranix.net when online.

          Thanks! I will look into it.

          If you want to be my friend you first have to do something on the sins I highlighted above >

          I don't quite follow as to why you are referring to them as sins?

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            es
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            Salaam "ResearchingtheTruth",

            Welcome. welcome

            May God guide you and may your research be positive, insh'Allah.

            I think "Bender" was being sarcastic about being a "black" "female" and the left-handedness. As you've demonstrated from your account, these things are viewed as being adverse according to Sunni doctrine.

            Salaam.

            Sajda.

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              Bender
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              I don't quite follow as to why you are referring to them as sins?

              Salaamun alayki sis,

              I was trying to be funny but I failed '( '( '(

              Salaam,
              Bender

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                es
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                Salaamun alayki sis,

                I was trying to be funny but I failed '( '( '(

                Salaam,
                Bender

                Bender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! group

                yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay

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                  Bender
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                  Bender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! group

                  yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay

                  Essssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! group

                  you look yay to me

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                    justamuslim
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                    Welcome aboard!

                    I hold my spoon and fork in my left hand. Does God really care if I eat with my left hand or foot for that matter?

                    Keep reading and my suggestion, if i may, that you read multiple translations, trying to understand salat, ramadan and other commonly held beliefs from the Koran only and read different translations.

                    god is the best guide and truest friend here.

                    group

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace Researching the Truth.

                      One of my friend also left handed and he claim if he like this since child.There is no verses in the Quran that forbids left handed instead in that fabricated hadith.

                      I live in a Sunni majority place like you and yes asking something like what you say to your mother is a taboo things and mostly they will not responded.Most of them will says "It's not our territory to say something like this, what we can do know is only follow jumhur ulama" or say something like "Quran is universal and hadith is explanined the Quran in detailed way".

                      I'm also became Quran Alone after reading the book of hadith like you.Yes I'm Islam since born, faithful, did some Sunnah, capable do tartil Quran, and yet never reading Ahadith books, cause I only depending on ulema intepretatation.

                      In the last welcome to this forum,

                      WasSalaam.

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                        ResearchingtheTruth
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                        I think "Bender" was being sarcastic about being a "black" "female" and the left-handedness. As you've demonstrated from your account, these things are viewed as being adverse according to Sunni doctrine.

                        Salaam es

                        Yes, I figured that he might have been joking at first but I still felt the need to ask!

                        Salaamun alayki sis,

                        I was trying to be funny but I failed '( '( '(

                        Salaam,
                        Bender

                        Salaam, Bender!

                        No no, I got want you meant at first but then I got thought I hope he's not serious which is why I needed to ask.. ;D ;D

                        Welcome aboard!

                        I hold my spoon and fork in my left hand. Does God really care if I eat with my left hand or foot for that matter?

                        Keep reading and my suggestion, if i may, that you read multiple translations, trying to understand salat, ramadan and other commonly held beliefs from the Koran only and read different translations.

                        god is the best guide and truest friend here.

                        group

                        Salaam justamuslim, and thanks for the suggestion

                        Peace Researching the Truth.

                        One of my friend also left handed and he claim if he like this since child.There is no verses in the Quran that forbids left handed instead in that fabricated hadith.

                        I live in a Sunni majority place like you and yes asking something like what you say to your mother is a taboo things and mostly they will not responded.Most of them will says "It's not our territory to say something like this, what we can do know is only follow jumhur ulama" or say something like "Quran is universal and hadith is explanined the Quran in detailed way".

                        I'm also became Quran Alone after reading the book of hadith like you.Yes I'm Islam since born, faithful, did some Sunnah, capable do tartil Quran, and yet never reading Ahadith books, cause I only depending on ulema intepretatation.

                        In the last welcome to this forum,

                        WasSalaam.

                        Salaam Earthdom!

                        I believe there are so many who are in similar situations as us. I felt really relieved after discovering that all these "rules" were not in the Quran.

                        Thank you guys for the warm welcome and I hope you all have a great weekend! sun

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                          supportpeacenotwar
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                          Peace ResearchingtheTruth,

                          Welcome to the forum! I hope you get what you need to learn out of this forum... I have in more ways than one, by the leave of Allah swt.

                          The Quran is definitely against racism. Iblis can be considered the first racist and is unrepentant and is admonished by Allah swt for his arrogance, hate and jealousy etc. The Quran is also against judging by labels - whether the People of the Book, desert Arabs, Pagans or anyone, including Sunni, Shia and so on. As I've mentioned before on this forum, Allah swt is the true friend and nothing can replace His friendship towards us, if He chooses to bring us closer to Him. Sometimes I want to say He is our only friend and that humans really aren't friends with each other because many are so flippant with each other. To Allah is the return. He will clear all inequity.

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                            ResearchingtheTruth
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                            The Quran is definitely against racism. Iblis can be considered the first racist and is unrepentant and is admonished by Allah swt for his arrogance, hate and jealousy etc.

                            Salaam supportpeacenotwar and thank you for the warm welcome! peace

                            Yes, I was taught this as well as a child, which is why I was shocked when I recently found the racist hadiths.

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                              supportpeacenotwar
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                              Salaam supportpeacenotwar and thank you for the warm welcome! peace

                              Yes, I was taught this as well as a child, which is why I was shocked when I recently found the racist hadiths.

                              Salaam ResearchingtheTruth,

                              It's certainly a journey from 'conventional' well known Islam to Islam based on the Quran. I was never brought up as a Sunni as such, although that's my general background, it wasn't strict or typically religious. I actually moved towards Paganism and new age spirituality - but I was always trying to make it fit together but it didn't really fit together for me - before looking at the Quran in more depth in recent years.

                              May Allah swt always guide you on the path that leads straight to Him

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                                Man_of_Faith
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                                Peace,

                                Welcome to the forum.

                                God bless you

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                                  alfarwq
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                                  Assalamu alaykum
                                  I am the only muslim in a isolated christian region.I have a jewish-christian-atheist family back ground and more than 10 years ago I stumbled over a romanian version of the noble Qur'an.As a result I have become a muslim revert,I taught myself standard arabic through the saudi and kuweiti radio.
                                  Yet I reject some of the sunna and various hadith,I don't trust it so far and I will never be circumcised.I thank God there are muslims who believe in the holy Qur'an alone.Even today my only connection with the muslim world is this holy scripture,the salat and the sawm.I think everybody who confess the shahaadah has the right to be considered muslim.Even the Sufi ,Shia ,Ibadi,ahmadi,etc
                                  Although I do not share all their beliefs,I discovered the qawwali music and I am a big fan of it.I do not think dhikr is a sin, let Allah judge this innovation.For me the essence of Islam is the confession and the coran.The rest does not matter so much and separates people rather then uniting them.
                                  I am definitely a secularist.
                                  Baraka Allah fikum

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                                    diamantinehoneybunch
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                                    Assalamu alaykum
                                    I am the only muslim in a isolated christian region.I have a jewish-christian-atheist family back ground and more than 10 years ago I stumbled over a romanian version of the noble Qur'an.As a result I have become a muslim revert,I taught myself standard arabic through the saudi and kuweiti radio.
                                    Yet I reject some of the sunna and various hadith,I don't trust it so far and I will never be circumcised.I thank God there are muslims who believe in the holy Qur'an alone.Even today my only connection with the muslim world is this holy scripture,the salat and the sawm.I think everybody who confess the shahaadah has the right to be considered muslim.Even the Sufi ,Shia ,Ibadi,ahmadi,etc
                                    Although I do not share all their beliefs,I discovered the qawwali music and I am a big fan of it.I do not think dhikr is a sin, let Allah judge this innovation.For me the essence of Islam is the confession and the coran.The rest does not matter so much and separates people rather then uniting them.
                                    I am definitely a secularist.
                                    Baraka Allah fikum

                                    Salaam alfarwq,

                                    welcome to this forum.

                                    Yeah I am also a secularist handshake

                                    So you are a Romanian?

                                    Hmmmm if you want to learn the Qur'an meaning and be able read Qur'an without translation, I recommend you to learn Classical Arabic.

                                    Yeah sectarians are often intolerant. They often think that they are the only true Muslims and believe that others will go to hell voodoo

                                    I think most Quran-only muslims only accept and follow the Quran as the source of Islamic law and Fiqh. It's saddening that many translations of Quran especially in English are erroneous and make Quran look like a book of hate '( . It's because the translators use traditional sources to translate Quran.

                                    Have you ever tried Quran translations on Free Minds (Quran- Monotheist Translation)?

                                    May God bless you. pr

                                    Kind regards,
                                    Yuliana

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