How does the little creatures see my body ?
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peace to all,
I been thinking for a log time on...how does the little creatures inside us think of the whole body? What type of world is that for them ? Do they also have soul ? Is this body only mine or theres also ?
others opinion ?Little creatures develop in your body as god's creations in pairs; either they are physiological or pathologoical according to your behaviour either in line with god's path or not respectively. The little creatures are either your servants or masters on similar lines.
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Peace be upon you SA,
Can you clarify if you were talking about Bacteria as has been assumed. I want to be clear about the question so I can reflect on it.
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I'm feeling Matrixy today (boxset is out!) so to quote the Oracle
"We're all here to do what we're all here to do."
The human body is a system, the cells, and even the 'creatures' do what they must, what is inspired in them, though I'm sure scientists who dont believe in intelligent design would say its 'programmed' in them. Whatever, same thing, they do what they must.
As for whether they have souls, well we'd have to define 'soul' and then try to locate it, so the debate widens somewhat. We've got the mind and we've got the brain, so you tell me where the soul is, and what it looks like and then we can discuss more, lol. The brain is just a mushy piece of flesh, the mind seems to be a hologram that turns off when the heart stops beating.
The human body amazing.
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Peace be upon you SA,
Can you clarify if you were talking about Bacteria as has been assumed. I want to be clear about the question so I can reflect on it.
Yes I am talking about all those individual entity who also have soul and also sharing my body or living in me as we are living in earths body..)
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Salaam All,
Joe,
I believe he means the bacteria that inhabit our bodies, no?Shams,
Is this body only mine or theres also ?You reminded me of a story told about Prophet Ayyoubb and that is when the worms that were eating his body (!!!), during his illness, would fell on the ground, he would pick them up (!!!) and return them back to feed on his body (!!!), assuming that his body was their habitat too.
Taj
well I am not sure if prophet Ayyoub thinking that but my dad told me as he is a physician that, worms do eat up the bacteria from our infected(infection) place. That why in the aintient time ppl used to use such worms. I think you might have noticed in the gladiator move in one part where the black slave was putting worms on gladiator's infections.
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Peace be upon you Beatnik,
As for whether they have souls, well we'd have to define 'soul' and then try to locate it, so the debate widens somewhat. We've got the mind and we've got the brain, so you tell me where the soul is, and what it looks like and then we can discuss more, lol.
You said that "We've got the mind...", If you can concieve the abstract term "mind", then why cant you concieve the absract term "soul"?
To me they are the SAME THING, mind/soul/spirit are the same thing, the Ruh being seperate from that described as "energy".
But again, how did you understand "mind" but not "soul"?
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Peace be upon you,
My understanding is that the creatures that inhabit our body see our body as a home, or if they are really small, they see it like we see Earth.
As far as cells, it is my understanding that they understand TRUE MONOTHEISM. They understand the term "individual", which is an indivisible duality. It means that on one side they are all joined, on the physical side they are seperate, but they do not keep thier conscious focused onthe seperated part, but instead on the JOINED part, so they work as ONE.
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Peace be upon you,
My understanding is that the creatures that inhabit our body see our body as a home, or if they are really small, they see it like we see Earth.
As far as cells, it is my understanding that they understand TRUE MONOTHEISM. They understand the term "individual", which is an indivisible duality. It means that on one side they are all joined, on the physical side they are seperate, but they do not keep thier conscious focused onthe seperated part, but instead on the JOINED part, so they work as ONE.
Than have you ever thought that the earth itself with all other planets might have a soul and we inhabit the earth. And the rivers being its vain, water as blood. We humans, some friendly and some not. And the earths health also dipends on how help him.?
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Peace be upon you SA,
Than have you ever thought that the earth itself with all other planets might have a soul and we inhabit the earth. And the rivers being its vain, water as blood. We humans, some friendly and some not. And the earths health also dipends on how help him.?
Yes, I have thought that, MANY times D The God does use this as symbolism for us, as he states that rain(revelation) gives life to a dead earth(HUman).
But I tke it at this time only as a metaphor, because if we take it literal, then why does this ENTITY that we inhabit never have needles stuck in it, or get hit by a car, or have other BLOWS to its vehicle that would shake our earth, just as I am sure we shake our CELLS when we have injuries and run into thinigs.
So again, I do keep that in mind, but I keep in as a metaphor until I see knowledge of such a larger PHYSICAL being.
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But I tke it at this time only as a metaphor, because if we take it literal, then why does this ENTITY that we inhabit never have needles stuck in it, or get hit by a car, or have other BLOWS to its vehicle that would shake our earth, just as I am sure we shake our CELLS when we have injuries and run into thinigs.
So again, I do keep that in mind, but I keep in as a metaphor until I see knowledge of such a larger PHYSICAL being.
What about the meators...??? may be the planets have a different way of interacting and motion system..
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Peace Kyle,
Yes, I have thought that, MANY times D The God does use this as symbolism for us, as he states that rain(revelation) gives life to a dead earth(HUman).
Firstly, rain has not only to do with humans but multitude of other reasons. Secondly, you are once again seperating and emphasizing English words by "HUman" just like you did with "MUhammad"? What's up with this man? Now, what does "hu" mean in Englsih and how does it relate to "man" to become "hu-man" meaning human? Please explain?
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You said that "We've got the mind...", If you can concieve the abstract term "mind", then why cant you concieve the absract term "soul"?
Ok, I've got the mind, lol. My intepretation anyway, I was just inviting other people to give their intepretations. Mind is intellect, knowledge. Soul is emotion; moral compass. I'm sure you can imagine an individual who is a genius and yet at the same time 'soulless', lets say like Hitler, etc.
To me they are the SAME THING, mind/soul/spirit are the same thing, the Ruh being seperate from that described as "energy".
To me they're definitely not. Mind is not brought to account on judgement day, the Soul is, the controller of this shell of a body. The mind comes with the body, the soul controls the mind, which moves the body via electrical signals, etc.
But again, how did you understand "mind" but not "soul"?
As I've explained above, thats the way I look at things, whats worth debating is where the mind and soul are. I think the term 'human being' is defined by Mind, Body, and Soul. Body is apparent, mind is usually perceived or protrayed to be in the brain, and the soul in the heart. Although I dont take the location of mind and soul too literally, it is still fitting in a way.
Another funny observation, when you refer to yourself, you usually point to your chest, not your head, heh.
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Peace be upon you Danish,
Firstly, rain has not only to do with humans but multitude of other reasons.
Is it used as a metaphor for revelation, yes or no?
Secondly, you are once again seperating and emphasizing English words by "HUman" just like you did with "MUhammad"? What's up with this man? Now, what does "hu" mean in Englsih and how does it relate to "man" to become "hu-man" meaning human? Please explain?
I am not connecting "HUman" with "MUhammad", the discussion about MUhammad was about the ARABic prefix 'MU".
Regarding HUman, I emphasized the HU to bring out the meaning of that word. It comes from the understanding that the human body is made of earth (HUmus). So when you combine HUmus + Man, you get HUman. Thats all.
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Peace be upon you Beatnik,
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You said that "We've got the mind...", If you can concieve the abstract term "mind", then why cant you concieve the absract term "soul"?Ok, I've got the mind, lol.
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My intepretation anyway, I was just inviting other people to give their intepretations. Mind is intellect, knowledge. Soul is emotion; moral compass. I'm sure you can imagine an individual who is a genius and yet at the same time 'soulless', lets say like Hitler, etc.
I cant imagine that because EVERYONE has a "nafs", Hitler only corrupted his nafs instead of purifying it.
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To me they are the SAME THING, mind/soul/spirit are the same thing, the Ruh being seperate from that described as "energy".To me they're definitely not. Mind is not brought to account on judgement day, the Soul is
I guess that all depends on what you translate NAFS, I'll start a seperate thread for it.
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Peace all
nice thread
those creatures that inhabit our bodies might or might not have souls/minds - I don't know how Allah has proportioned them in this respect.
I'd just want to throw in an observation about Humans. In our cultural evolution we have overcome many things - we are no longer hunted by animals, we no longer have to fight bears for space in caves, we sit at the top of a food chain whose components are the rest of the natural world.
And yet in all our apparent self sufficency it is still these tiny organisms which can cause us harm, can strike us down if Allah wills.
I believe those small organisms which inhabit our bodies - both those which aid us and which harm us - are meant to remind us of our place in creation and to not lose sight of that fact that we are khalifa only by Allah's permission..... how great are we that the smallest of creation can wreck the edifaces we build....Avarian flu anyone?
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asdfjk
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Peace be upon you,
Good observation "asdfjk" D
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Greetings with peace,
Another funny observation, when you refer to yourself, you usually point to your chest, not your head, heh.
If you didn't know, some Japanese people point to their nose to refer to themselves. Now is their "soul" in their nose?
Anwar Azim