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"And kneel with those who kneel"

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    hawk99
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    Peace Hawk99,
    Do we have to seek the help of dictionary or take a word in its literal sense always.

    Peace wiselite,

    Thank you for your reply, definitions are important it is the key to understanding any
    language. You are right when you say a group can be a family. But to say a family
    "is" becomes the definition of the word. If you notice I sometimes say "peace family"
    when opening a post, referring to my family of believers. Therefore a family can be
    understood to be a group with similar aspirations metaphorically.

    Peace 357,

    You are right the two words appear to have the same root.

    maybe someone can explain the difference between tusalli (pray)
    in 9/84 and tasilu (reaching) in 11/70.

    Have a blessed ramadan

    peace

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      kgwithnob
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      Only two ayahs where this word accurs and in one it means "pray" and in the other "reaching" isn't that weird!

      It seems weird if one think both comes from the same root. But in fact the one in verse ,984 comes from the root word "Sa-La-Va", meaning to pray, but, in verse 1170, comes from the root word "Wa-Sa-La" meaning to touch, contact or reaching toward. They're derived from different root words with different meanings. Hope it is clear now.

      Peace,
      Khalil

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        unknownuser
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        I remember reading about how salat and zakat were taught to Abraham and passed down through the generations, and how Allah promises in the Quran to preserve His signs. Does that include the preservation of salat since its clarification upon revelation of the Quran? While the details of salat are not mentioned, is salat still a "sign" from Allah and thus protected by Him?

        So, has salat become corrupted (ie the five daily prayers of 2, 4, 4, 3, 4)?

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          kgwithnob
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          So, has salat become corrupted (ie the five daily prayers of 2, 4, 4, 3, 4)?

          Salaat is to commemorate ALLAAH, swt, alone. See verse 2014 below among others.

          Lo! I, even I, am Allah, There is no God save Me. So serve Me and establish worship for My remembrance.

          So, as long as one does not commemorates anyone else but ALLAAH, swt, in his/her salaat, thus no corruption. He/she has followed The Qur'aan.

          Peace,
          Khalil

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Salaat is to commemorate ALLAAH, swt, alone. See verse 2014 below among others.

            Lo! I, even I, am Allah, There is no God save Me. So serve Me and establish worship for My remembrance.

            So, as long as one does not commemorates anyone else but ALLAAH, swt, in his/her salaat, thus no corruption. He/she has followed The Qur'aan.

            Peace,
            Khalil

            Peace,

            Well said! Salat is all about establishing a connection to God. And glad you translated as serve and not worship, I do not like that translation bravo

            God bless you

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              DrGm
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              Peace DrGm,

              A family can be part of or comprise a congregation, but a family is not a congregation.

              peace

              peace hawk99,

              a family is a test, in which each individual is unique, this represent the diversity of nations/community/groups in the world. so, it is a test for us how we live in the family with pride or humble. this family extension is the world.

              828 - and know ye your possessions and your progeny are but a trial;

              724 - descend, one of you a test unto the other;

              peace

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                Al-Azhar
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                The Lord of mankind provides the best examples. So i am reminded of the one where Moses tells his people that god commands them to sacrifice an animal.

                And remember Moses said to his people "Allah commands that ye sacrifice a heifer."
                They said "Makest thou a laughing-stock of us?"
                He said "Allah save me from being an ignorant (fool)!"
                They said "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what (heifer) it is!"
                He said; "He says The heifer should be neither too old nor too young, but of middling age. Now do what ye are commanded!"
                They said "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us Her colour."
                He said "He says A fawn-coloured heifer, pure and rich in tone, the admiration of beholders!"
                They said "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what she is To us are all heifers alike We wish indeed for guidance, if Allah wills."
                He said "He says A heifer not trained to till the soil or water the fields; sound and without blemish."
                They said "Now hast thou brought the truth." Then they offered her in sacrifice, but not with good-will.

                A simple command made hard - sound familiar???

                Read it over and over and over and take heed of the message!!!

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                  unknownuser
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                  So, has salat become corrupted (ie the five daily prayers of 2, 4, 4, 3, 4)?

                  There is no word raka'at in the Quran.It's innovation of Zoroartrian agents in the past who want destroy Islam from behind by create a fairy tales.
                  Just browsing about Zoroartrian in previous thread by using search tools.

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                    hawk99
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                    There is no word raka'at in the Quran.It's innovation of Zoroartrian agents in the past who want destroy Islam from behind by create a fairy tales.
                    Just browsing about Zoroartrian in previous thread by using search tools.

                    Interesting

                    Blessed Ramadan to all!

                    peace

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace hawk 99

                      Hey mister, why you shortening your post, I'm not finished reading and yes forgot to reply.

                      May Allah always show us the true path. pr

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