Fast Poll
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At the present time, The Qur'aan, its language, and what it is trying to communicate to us is of the essence. Whatever the language of people of Sheba at their time was, is not important to us today. Arabic is the language that GOD has picked to communicate with us and He knows best.
There are Arabic words, like in many other languages, that through a long history have globally been accepted and recognized. These words are not to be translated when used in another language. Only their transliterations or at best their equivalents that convey the exact same meaning in the original language are used. And this is for their meanings not to be compromised. Examples are the Arabic words "algebra", "function", "mechanic", "Islam", "Muslims", "The Qur'aan", and many more when used in English language.
Peace,
KhalilPeace -- there are numerous foreign words incorporated into Arabic over the years like Google, automobile, etc., and Qur'an is a translation of some events into Arabic speech spoken at the time of revelation.
What was it in Firaun's tongue or don't translate anything?
1090 ..." and I from al-mus'limna"
3335 surely al-mus'limna (m/p) wal-mus'limti (f/p) wal-mu'minna/and the believers (m/p) wal-mu'minti/and the believers (f/p) and the obedient (m/p) and the obedient (f/p) and the truthful (m/p) and the truthful (f/p) and the patient (m/p) and the patient (f/p) and the humble (m/p) and the humble (f/p) and who give handouts (m/p) and who give handouts (f/p) wal-saimna/and who fast (m/p) wal-saimati/and who fast (f/p) wal-afina/and who guard (m/p) private parts theirs wal-afiati/and the ones who guard it (f/p) and the who remember (m/p) the god much of and who remember (f/p) has prepared the god for them forgiveness and payment of enormous
6835 surely so we treat al-mus'limna kal-muj'rimna/like the criminals?
Synonyms for criminal
felonious, unlawful, malefactor, evildoer, transgressor, culprit, felon, crook, hoodlumAntonyms for criminal
ethical, good, kind, lawful, moral, noble, proper, correct, righteous, peacemakerI find it really amusing that you want to promote this long twisted thread, where vaild arguments were buried under circular arguments of one person who claims to know Arabic but can not define ALLAAH, which he translates as ?the god?
Those who do have knowledge of Arabic would know how to explain AL-LAAH.
I?ll give you a clue; ALLAAH is the Creator of all things in this universe.
If you take away all created things, one by one, what would remain once the very last atom is taken away??Peace farida -- that is dwelling in the unseen which one can only speculate as in physics and conservation of energy thus nothing is taken away only transferred to energy and it's makes no sense to say my Allah or Allah ours.
3946 say - the god ours originator the heavens and the earth know-er the unseen
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Peace -- there are numerous foreign words incorporated into Arabic over the years like Google, automobile, etc., and Qur'an is a translation of some events into Arabic speech spoken at the time of revelation.
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Peace farida --
3946 say - the god ours originator the heavens and the earth know-er the unseenPeace
There are numerous foreign words incorporated into Arabic spoken language today but the Qur'aan was revealed in pure Arabic which is the Macro version of Hebrew; see for example this table below
http//www.ancient-hebrew.org/28_chart.html
see in this chart miym/mem/M under picture is water
note that in Arabic we read the-water = al-maa'
miym in Arabic means circle (see how miym is written in Arabic and reads from m to m) and water too generates ripple/circles hailthat is dwelling in the unseen which one can only speculate as in physics and conservation of energy thus nothing is taken away only transferred to energy and it's makes no sense to say my Allah or Allah ours.
I was giving an example to take us back to where it all originated, ie to the creator = ALLAAH and ruh of ALLAAH which activated creation/everything so when you take away everything you are left with 'not anything' and ruh of ALLAAH.
With humbleness you will grasp what I am saying insha'ALLAAH
3946 Say, "O Allah , Creator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the witnessed, You will judge between your servants concerning that over which they used to differ."
salaam -
Peace,
Grammatically, if you choose to use God as a name, the definite article is wrong to use for Him. Normally, if you refer to God you refer to Him as an animate intelligent being which makes "the god" grammatically wrong. 'The god' turns out to be a relatively clinical expression giving God a cold nature making Him into more like an object. If talking about a specific proper being then 'God' is the correct usage.
Check dictionary.
In Arabic, as I have understood, the definite article added to the same word you pronounce has a different use than English and is of more general use. Just because you say Al-Lah does not render the god correct in English. Allah is used as a proper name and for that the God is grammatically incorrect. God has many names and that is why you also see al-rahman and al-raheem, they are names as the so-called 'basmala' indicates by 'bism'. So since they are names then logically Allah must also be treated as a proper name causing 'the God' to be incorrect usage of English. God is the universally accepted English name for the god of the Abrahamic religion, and since there is only one god there is little to discuss. God is God. You do not say 'the Henrik' for example.
God bless you
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Peace,
Grammatically, if you choose to use God as a name, the definite article is wrong to use for Him. Normally, if you refer to God you refer to Him as an animate intelligent being which makes "the god" grammatically wrong. 'The god' turns out to be a relatively clinical expression giving God a cold nature making Him into more like an object. If talking about a specific proper being then 'God' is the correct usage.
Check dictionary.
In Arabic, as I have understood, the definite article added to the same word you pronounce has a different use than English and is of more general use. Just because you say Al-Lah does not render the god correct in English. Allah is used as a proper name and for that the God is grammatically incorrect. God has many names and that is why you also see al-rahman and al-raheem, they are names as the so-called 'basmala' indicates by 'bism'. So since they are names then logically Allah must also be treated as a proper name causing 'the God' to be incorrect usage of English. God is the universally accepted English name for the god of the Abrahamic religion, and since there is only one god there is little to discuss. God is God. You do not say 'the Henrik' for example.
God bless you
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605535.msg333513#msg333513
Peace,
Khalil -
Peace,
Grammatically, if you choose to use God as a name, the definite article is wrong to use for Him. Normally, if you refer to God you refer to Him as an animate intelligent being which makes "the god" grammatically wrong. 'The god' turns out to be a relatively clinical expression giving God a cold nature making Him into more like an object. If talking about a specific being then 'God' is the correct usage.
Check dictionary.
God bless you
Peace
I agree with you an animate intelligent being/super brain as in Hebrew resh in Arabic raas.
Also see Genisis 11 Bereshith, (in wisdom God created the heavens and the earth.
Elohim is conjoined with verbs and adjectives in the singular, an anomaly in language which has been explained as suggesting the unity of the Godhead.
http//biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm
salaam -
Peace All,
Anyway, getting back to the theme of the thread
The fasting period begins following the witnessing of the first full-moon after the
summer solstice and lasts for 10 days.The simple answer is "not true"
10 days nope
Summer solstice, uh-uh
Interesting thread though
! Let's save the the god nonsense for another thread
God bless
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Peace All,
Anyway, getting back to the theme of the thread
The fasting period begins following the witnessing of the first full-moon after the
summer solstice and lasts for 10 days.The simple answer is "not true"
10 days nope
God bless
handshake
Today is my 27th day of fasting and al-hamdullilaah the month of ramDaan is going very well, despite it being the longest hours of fast I've witnessed so far. yes
salaam -
Peace farida, handshake
We just fast, that's all, no matter the length of day, we know that the victory is for the steadfast.
al-hamdullilaah, Congratulations are coming soon Insha'Allah, I can hardly wait for the gathering,
two days to go!Have a blessed Ramadan
peace
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3946 Say, "O Allah
Peace -- where is "O" as in 221 O you the humankind? Ending with usually means our/s)
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Peace -- where is "O" as in 221 O you the humankind? Ending with usually means our/s)
Peace
I pasted for you Sahih International translation to put my point across, regarding our differences in understanding of the Qur?aanic message.The Qur'aan is the last book of ALLAAH. That takes us to al-kitaab. It is in al-kitaab where all the knowledge is collected, and as you do not follow al-kitaab you would not understand what ?ALLAAHumaa? stands for according to my defination.
Peace
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Peace Abdellilah
The reason Timur only quoted that part was because of this
Earthdom "In Lane Lexicon page 1612 in section , reffering the word shahr as month not moon."
So here it is again. Lane's Lexicon, page 1612
The moon or the moon when conspicuous, and near to being full.Please re-read my post again in page 7.
So he wasn't "only picking some part" but disproving a false claim.
hmm.Didn't understant what do ya mean D
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The Qur'aan is the last book of ALLAAH. That takes us to al-kitaab. It is in al-kitaab where all the knowledge is collected, and as you do not follow al-kitaab you would not understand what ?ALLAAHumaa? stands for according to my defination.
Peace farida -- your bizarre numerology obsessed imam's book that commands stoning, no thanks!
did the book or Qur'an command anyone to stone people?
No the Qur'aan did not but the book (al-kitaab) did.
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Peace,
Only man-made insertions in the past scriptures advocated stoning. The original text on tablets to Moses and so on did not mention anything about that. Logic can tell much was added from the time of inscription. A whole lot of pages associated with the Book of Moses are only hearsay much like the hadith of Muhammad. The same type of people who wrote hadith of Muhammad inserted blasphemous passages to Moses' Message and Law statutes.
God bless you
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Salaamun alayka,
That is not true.
2729
Sulayman wanted that they come muslim to him (him=Sulayman).Salaam,
BenderSalam Bender
it refers to God and not to sulmeiman simply because that verse follows a bismillah that means literally in name of god. It is just the content of the message sent to queen of saba by suleiman in name of GodPeace
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Sister Noshirk.
Would you like to share your views on ramadan and shehr in detail?
I recently almost came to a conclusion regarding ramadan, and i do not believe that we are in ramadan, but would like to know your point of view.
Peace
sorry sister for my late response
here a summary of what i thinkhere why i think that ramadan is in september. http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604822.0
now shahr is, like brother ayman noticed, is full moon. Astronomically it last few seconds but it seems full for three days. Word Shahr refers of notion of visibility.
19-26 says that saum is an abstinence of speaking to humans and dedicating time only to god.
we have also mention of three days for zacharie. When you compare 3-41 and 19-10 you can deduce that zacharie was fasting from speaking during the day
11-65 also mention a duration of 3 days as delay from god. lt makes me remember expression of delay related to insilakh asshar haram 95
there is four shahr haram. to each of them is associated a hajj period. 28-27 shows that hajj is a period of time and since there is 4 hajj a year then there is a hajj every trimester. (hajj for me is a festival where occurs debates betwenn hojjajs who are people who knows quran and simple visitors called who making omra).
Since deen of god don't change, we have similarites with jewish and zoroasters festivals.we find also three days of saoum in 2-196. visitors have to make saoum during 3 days and don't raise heads until the gift of god reaches the destinatin (mind) and have to make seven other days of meditation when return home (i suppose that who make omra without his family don't have to make saoum since he have to teach what he learnt to his family). So hajj requires 10 tens days (3 of to total listening and seven of meditation or debate with family).
conclusion Hajj 1 and ramadan first full after 20 september. Hajj 2,3 and 4 every three lunar months. A lunar month is called sanaton in quran (people of kahf stayed 25 solar years in kahf and noah stayed between his people 1000 sanaton less 50 years wich means 81-50=31 years).
Finally i don't think that islam is related to word peace. Root slm, in dictionnary means "safe from illness (of mind)". Islam is to be safe of mind. it requires to connect (salat) to god to get purification (zakat). It is obtained by meditation (saoum from human speakings) and thanks to help of truthfull guardians of words of God (moominouns) during hajj debates with them.
Peace
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Peace noshirk,
Thanks for adding thoughts to my mind. Of course salam is not literally peace. I should have known better and thanks for enlightening me. It is of course related to the philosophies I have about islam with its ulterior goal of reaching an inner balance or harmony in your soul. It is certainly possible to connote it with peace but this is not the exact meaning. Your explanation is more exact as to say 'be safe' or 'be well', or to wish someone a harmonious presence, instead of only literally say 'peace'. Like muslim it is probably difficult to directly translate.
God bless you
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Salaam,
It is impossible to face the qibla from far distance because the Earth is spherical.
Regards,
Yuliana -
Salam Bender
it refers to God and not to sulmeiman simply because that verse follows a bismillah that means literally in name of god. It is just the content of the message sent to queen of saba by suleiman in name of GodPeace
Salaam noshirk,
sorry for the late reply.
I think you have a wrong understanding on the BismiAllah.
Anyway I think 2738 is very clear to who 2731 is referring.
2738salaam,
Bender -
Peace Man of Faith,
Grammatically, if you choose to use God as a name, the definite article is wrong to use for Him. Normally, if you refer to God you refer to Him as an animate intelligent being which makes "the god" grammatically wrong. 'The god' turns out to be a relatively clinical expression giving God a cold nature making Him into more like an object. If talking about a specific proper being then 'God' is the correct usage.
Check dictionary.Actually, grammatically it is an absolute certainty that the initial "AL" in "allah" is the definite article. In Arabic grammar when the preposition "li" (to) is attached to a noun with the definite article, it automatically removes the initial "A" in the definite article. Also, if the first letter of the word is "L", it also removes the "L" since grammatically in Arabic you cannot have three consecutive "L"s. So becomes
This is a very well known grammar rule in Arabic so I find it astonishing that people are still confused about what is certainly the most important word in the great reading means.
In Arabic, as I have understood, the definite article added to the same word you pronounce has a different use than English and is of more general use. Just because you say Al-Lah does not render the god correct in English. Allah is used as a proper name and for that the God is grammatically incorrect. God has many names and that is why you also see al-rahman and al-raheem, they are names as the so-called 'basmala' indicates by 'bism'. So since they are names then logically Allah must also be treated as a proper name causing 'the God' to be incorrect usage of English. God is the universally accepted English name for the god of the Abrahamic religion, and since there is only one god there is little to discuss. God is God. You do not say 'the Henrik' for example.
Exactly, al-rahman, al-rahim, al-ilah (contracted form al-lah). They all follow the same exact pattern. You are simply not used to hearing the correct translation "the god" but a man of faith, should have faith in the meaning closest to the truth even if it sounds unusual.
Peace,
Ayman