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    newmoon
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    salaam

    Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the last nabiyh and messenger, and that ALLAH?s message to all mankind was perfected in the Qur?aan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
    (1644)
    and for us record 5452

    May ALLAAH guide all to learn from His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

    salaam+

    With your statement above can you explain what the below verses mean to you

    2129 ?Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from among themselves, that he may recite to them Your revelations and teach them the Book and the wisdom, and purify them. You are the Noble, the Wise.?

    2151 As We have sent a messenger to you from among yourselves to recite Our revelations to you, and purify you, and teach you the Book and the wisdom, and teach you what you did not know.

    3164 God has bestowed grace upon the believers by sending them a messenger from among themselves reciting His revelations and purifying them and teaching them the Book and the wisdom, and they were before in manifest darkness.

    386 How can God guide a people who have rejected after believing, and they had witnessed that the messenger was true, and the clarity had come to them? God does not guide the wicked people.

    3132 And obey God and the messenger so that you may obtain mercy.

    353 ?Our Lord, we believe in what You have sent down, and followed the messenger, so record us with those who bear witness.?

    3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

    353 ?Our Lord, we believe in what You have sent down, and followed the messenger, so record us with those who bear witness.?

    Regards

    BalaChandran

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      farida
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      With your statement above can you explain what the below verses mean to you

      Regards

      BalaChandran

      Do you understand the gravity of your question; do you realise Whose prerogative it is to explain His revelations?
      (7519)
      If you still don?t get it, then what will explain to 'thee'
      Al-Qur'aan 7427, 7714, 8217/18, 838, 8319, 1013, 10110, 1045

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        Do you understand the gravity of your question; do you realise Whose prerogative it is to explain His revelations?
        (7519)
        If you still dont get it, then what will explain to 'thee'
        Al-Qur'aan 7427, 7714, 8217/18, 838, 8319, 1013, 10110, 1045

        Hope I have not commited sin to go to hell by asking you a simple question.

        Let me rephrase my question as to what is the Quranic reference to your belief

        salaam

        Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the last nabiyh and messenger, and that ALLAHs message to all mankind was perfected in the Quraan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
        (1644)

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          farida
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          Hope I have not commited sin to go to hell by asking you a simple question.

          It is not for me to guide you, pray to ALLAAH to lead you to His straight path pr

          Let me rephrase my question as to what is the Quranic reference to your belief

          Each to his own, I owe you no explanation concerning my beliefs.
          peace

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            al-amiyr
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            Salaam al-amiyr,

            It has gone so long I have started to wonder where you went.

            God bless you

            salaam+ Man of Faith

            Do not worry! ) I have been regularly visiting the site and probably read most of your posts during this time as well. Thank you and my God bless you as well.

            al-amiyr

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              ansmeh1998
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              As far as I understand, it is against the Sunnatullah to be behave like a filthy dictator. Creating an enabling environment thereby facilitating people to choose from wright and wrong, is a well defined Divine Law. Allah(swt) allowed even the Shaitan to exist with all its might whom we confront each and every moment. So why there is a need to put a censorship on anyone from expressing one's views peacefully. After all, each one of us has got the faculty of understanding. I think brother Al-Amiyr may be allowed to complete his project without any undue hassle. I hope administration will have a re-think.

              Salaam!

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                al-amiyr
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                As you can see this thread the Book (al-kitaab) has now reached over 10 000 views.
                If it will not be blocked like my other thread The Qur'aan Cosmological Model then I predict that this thread of the Book (al-kitaab) would soon become the most popular in the history of Free Minds.

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                  G_Omar
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                  +salaam my good brother and my imam

                  I pray to Al Haqq, the Almighty, that it will be, and that al haqq will soon prevail and bring all believers together under its glorious banner! hail pr

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                    Birdy
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                    Peace with you all people sun

                    @al-amiyr

                    A question.
                    Do you posses the Al-Jafr (book) and have knowledge from it?

                    PS I don't believe the book has ever existed and were narration from Prophet Mohammed sas.

                    May God the Mercifully lead everyone to the stright path.

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                      al-amiyr
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                      Peace with you all people sun

                      @al-amiyr

                      A question.
                      Do you posses the Al-Jafr (book) and have knowledge from it?

                      PS I don't believe the book has ever existed and were narration from Prophet Mohammed sas.

                      May God the Mercifully lead everyone to the stright path.

                      salaam+ Birdy

                      I wondered when someone would ask me this question. Yes I possess al-jafr. It has passed through the 44 generations of my fore fathers. The sons of our paternal uncle imaam muhammad al-baaqir (fifth imaam of the Shia Muslims inherited the physical jafr. Our line through amiyr zayd ibn ali (brother of imaam muhammad al-baaqir) inherited the mental 'jafr'. It is lodged into our brains and we teach it to whomever ALLAAH wishes guide anywhere. That is why so many of my fore fathers were killed and beheaded by the ruling elite and we had to go into hiding for all the time. But the time has come for it to be made known to the world. Nothing can stop it. With ALLAAH is the decree for all things. If you wish I can teach you al-jafr inshaa ALLAAH.

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                        Aamer
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                        salaam+ Birdy

                        I wondered when someone would ask me this question. Yes I possess al-jafr. It has passed through the 44 generations of my fore fathers. The sons of our paternal uncle imaam muhammad al-baaqir (fifth imaam of the Shia Muslims inherited the physical jafr. Our line through amiyr zayd ibn ali (brother of imaam muhammad al-baaqir) inherited the mental 'jafr'. It is lodged into our brains and we teach it to whomever ALLAAH wishes guide anywhere. That is why so many of my fore fathers were killed and beheaded by the ruling elite and we had to go into hiding for all the time. But the time has come for it to be made known to the world. Nothing can stop it. With ALLAAH is the decree for all things. If you wish I can teach you al-jafr inshaa ALLAAH.

                        So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

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                          Birdy
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                          Peace with you all sun

                          Thanks for response Al-Amiyr and for the invitation but I'm sorry I have to refuse it. I have already the best teacher ever and that's enough for me. I appriciate your understanding and remain with kindly regards.

                          May Allah the All-Wise lead us to the stright put.

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                            al-amiyr
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                            Peace with you all sun

                            Thanks for response Al-Amiyr and for the invitation but I'm sorry I have to refuse it. I have already the best teacher ever and that's enough for me. I appriciate your understanding and remain with kindly regards.

                            May Allah the All-Wise lead us to the stright put.

                            Peace upon and with all of you too

                            Thanks Birdy. I wish you all the best and great success in your studies. May ALLAAH guide all to his right path inshaa ALLAAH.

                            • Peace
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                              G_Omar
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                              So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

                              The promised Mahadi will not proclaim himself. When the time of his ministry arrives it will be obvious to the believers who he is.

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                                farida
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                                So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

                                Only ALLAAH knows who the Mahdiy will be He will not need to proclaim. ALL who proclaim are the false ones. The world will know who he is when he comes.
                                sun

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                                  faruk
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                                  Salam , brother al-amiyr, I find this post interesting. Please don't be distracted by opening numerous threads with various titles , specially of hadiths and profecies. Better one after another. Finish this thread. It's long overdue. Thank you in advance.

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                                    Habibullah
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                                    Peace / Salam

                                    Al-amiyr,

                                    I'm one of those who are trying sincerely to understand the meaning of Al-kitaab given to the informants / Al-Anbiya. I have wrestled with this question(s) for several years now and I am very open to new theories, even those who are contrary to my own. But before I decide to dedicate my time trying to understand others, I would like to first get answers to some questions, so that my time does not go in vain.

                                    I have a sincere request to you.

                                    Regarding verse 318

                                    1. Could you give me an accurate translation of the verse by following the rules of grammar of the Arabic and English language.
                                      If you wish you may break the verse in 2 (or 3) sections, starting with

                                    2. Give me a full and detailed interpretation of the verse based on your knowledge of Al-kitaab

                                    May our creator improve our understandings and shower us with patience.

                                    Peace / salam

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                                      farida
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                                      Peace / Salam

                                      Al-amiyr,

                                      I'm one of those who are trying sincerely to understand the meaning of Al-kitaab given to the informants / Al-Anbiya. I have wrestled with this question(s) for several years now and I am very open to new theories, even those who are contrary to my own. But before I decide to dedicate my time trying to understand others, I would like to first get answers to some questions, so that my time does not go in vain.

                                      I have a sincere request to you.

                                      Regarding verse 318

                                      1. Could you give me an accurate translation of the verse by following the rules of grammar of the Arabic and English language.
                                        If you wish you may break the verse in 2 (or 3) sections, starting with

                                      2. Give me a full and detailed interpretation of the verse based on your knowledge of Al-kitaab

                                      May our creator improve our understandings and shower us with patience.

                                      Peace / salam

                                      Peace/salaam Habibullah

                                      Allow me introduce myself I am a student of al-amiyr and I have been learning from him since he first started posting in this forum. Often people accused al-amiyr of ignoring their questions, and thinking that he is incapable of answering their queries.
                                      His answer is already available for all to see on the very first page of this thread. To make it easy for you I'll paste it below

                                      "It is the easiest book in the world to study. No prior knowledge about anything is required. The reality will automatically dawn upon you. And you will become amazed at what you will begin to know and understand about everything.

                                      Keep especially the following in mind;

                                      Nobody can be told
                                      what The Hidden Book is
                                      you
                                      like everyone else
                                      must see it for yourself.

                                      Therefore
                                      let there be silence!
                                      look
                                      listen
                                      learn
                                      and
                                      ponder
                                      the understanding will also be yours."

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                                        newmoon
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                                        salaam

                                        Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the lastnabiyh andmessenger,and that ALLAH?s message to all mankind was perfected in the Qur?aan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
                                        (1644)

                                        1. They swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner came to them, they would follow his guidance better than any (other) of the Peoples But when a warner came to them, it has only increased their flight (from righteousness),

                                        May ALLAAH guide all to learn from His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

                                        salaam+

                                        Muhammad is One among the Messengers and the The Last Prophet, not the Last Messenger

                                        3340 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah is fully aware of all things.

                                        4034 ?And Yusuf had come to you before with proofs, but you remained in doubt regarding what he came to you with, until when he died, you said ?Allah will not send any messenger after him.? It is such that Allah sends astray he who is a transgressor, doubter.?

                                        1047 And for every nation is a messenger; so when their messenger comes, the matter is decreed between them with justice, and they are not wronged.

                                        144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the wise.

                                        3971 And those who rejected will be driven to Hell in groups. When they reach it, and its gates are opened, its guards will say to them ?Did you not receive messengers from among you who recited to you the revelations of your Lord, and warned you about meeting this Day?? They said ?Yes indeed; but the sentence of retribution has come to pass upon the rejecters.?

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                                          Salam ,

                                          27-40 Said one who had knowledge from The Book / al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) ,", "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

                                          The man mentioned above , who was with Solomon / Sliman , has knowledge from "The Quantum/al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) ,"in my understanding" he has knowledge about the universal physical systems stetted up by allh , hence the word al-ktb in the above verse mean the book or the Quantum of the entire creation and its systems , the mentioning of this incredible skill to bring a thrown in a fraction of second linked to possessing knowledge from "The Quantum/al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) is not a arbitrary link , al-ktb in the verse above doesn't mean an ordinary book , and as we notice the verse mentioned the guy that he has only a knowledge from , mean not the whole knowledge but only a dot from it , as only allh has the whole and he control all .

                                          How can someone bring a throne ( a piece of matter objected in a physical releam ) in fraction of a seconds if he do not possess knowledge of what is named today as "quantum physics" witch is in truth what allh called in the al-qrn as al-ktb , this mean that the man should know about what is named today in the field of physics as photons , electrons , protons , particulls , quarks...etc , and all physical systems related , this names are with no meaning these are just Laghw in al-ktb , also the laws and theories explained in that field and all "scientific fields" is misleading and a pure "hearsay / hrtaka "

                                          What brother al-Amiyr is posting is a knowledge from "The Quantum /al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) , the creative sounds/waves )))))))))))))))))) by witch allh create , modify , transform , destroy , change ... things al-chiyA , what is known and named as initials in the beginning of the surah in al-qrn are not only a ordinary "letters / hrouf " pronounced from a moth , they are the powerful creative sounds/waves )))))))))))))))))) ordered by allh to create , modify , transform , destroy , change ... what allh wants / Arad , they are the sings / ayat of "The Quantum /l-ktb" but in the same time these sounds are also the signs of l-qrn , mean the construction units / sounds ( letters / hrouf ) by witch "The speech of allh / klm allh " is builted up , this speech allh "made it / jaalh " as "Arabic tongue / Lsn aarbi" mean original or natural the al-qrn who is "The speech of allh / klm allh " is made up / mjaaoul by the same signs / ayt of "The Quantum /al-ktb" , look into this

                                          15-99 a L R , These are signs/ayt of The book /al-ktb and of a clear Qur'an / qrn

                                          15-99

                                          in another verse 27-1 , the two words and its construction are swapped

                                          27-1 T S , These are are signs/ayt of The Qur'an / al-qrn and of a clear Book /ktb

                                          In my opinion the concept of The book /al-ktb is more wide and vast , it has connection with the physical order and preservation , it has connection with the material manifestation , The Qur'an / al-qrn is also considered as a book / ktb because it contain allh's order / amr allh at the social level and also because The Qur'an / al-qrn same as book / ktb is builted up with the same signs / ayt , this signs / ayt are both a sounds pronounced by our tongue aaaaaaaaaaaaa , lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll , mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm , rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, sssssssssssssssssss...and they are the origin of any physical manifestation in the form of a ultimately creative powerful sounds / waves ))))))))))))))))))))))))) at the quantum level.

                                          There is difference between "allh's speech / klam allh " and "word's of allh / klmt allh " in The quran/al-qrn , "word's of allh / klmt allh " its doesn't mean speaking words , but creative sounds , that affect reality , every reality , "word's of allh / klmt allh " are a meaningful set up of sounds spread-ed up at the quantum level , they can change , transform , create , destroy anything by the order allh.

                                          8-7 And when allh promised you one of the two parties should be yours, and you were wishing that the one not accoutered should be yours; but allh was desiring to verify / yhk the truth / alhk by His words / klmth, and to cut off cut off the roots of the Unbelievers

                                          they wined them by "word's of allh / klmt allh " , mean allh made by his words / klmt the physical possibilities at the external and internal level that lead to the victory prepared and available to the believers to win

                                          In the other hand the "allh's speech / klam allh " is the recited order / judgement / explanations, that people should reflect upon and follow at the social level.

                                          More comparative feed back to be posted soon incha allh.

                                          salam

                                          Salam Dear All ,

                                          I will be confirming inchaA allaah brother al-amiyr's insight (insat / &#1578 in this thread and other thread , for those who are interested to the subject .

                                          The signs ayaat / that are in the beginning of some verses in the qur'an are , are signs of both the book al-kitab and the qur'an the reading or the complete reading and that is per the pattern fa3lan , see this for more explination regarding this pattern

                                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605810.0

                                          15-99
                                          15-99 ( a L R , These are signs/ayt of The book /al-ktb and of a clear Qur'an / qrn)

                                          in another verse 27-1 , the two words and its construction are swapped

                                          271
                                          27-1 ( T S , These are are signs/ayt of The Qur'an / al-qrn and of a clear Book /ktb)

                                          What is the Qur'an

                                          http//imageshack.us/a/img34/2324/8na0.jpg

                                          The qur'an ( the complete reading or the most completed of what you can read ) is the software or the CD driver

                                          What is the book al-kitab

                                          http//imageshack.us/a/img196/2802/2hfi.jpg

                                          The book al-kitab ( The hardwear , the container , the set up and the record of everything)

                                          More proof , arguments and wonders to come inchaA allah

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