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    farida
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    Hope I have not commited sin to go to hell by asking you a simple question.

    It is not for me to guide you, pray to ALLAAH to lead you to His straight path pr

    Let me rephrase my question as to what is the Quranic reference to your belief

    Each to his own, I owe you no explanation concerning my beliefs.
    peace

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      al-amiyr
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      Salaam al-amiyr,

      It has gone so long I have started to wonder where you went.

      God bless you

      salaam+ Man of Faith

      Do not worry! ) I have been regularly visiting the site and probably read most of your posts during this time as well. Thank you and my God bless you as well.

      al-amiyr

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        As far as I understand, it is against the Sunnatullah to be behave like a filthy dictator. Creating an enabling environment thereby facilitating people to choose from wright and wrong, is a well defined Divine Law. Allah(swt) allowed even the Shaitan to exist with all its might whom we confront each and every moment. So why there is a need to put a censorship on anyone from expressing one's views peacefully. After all, each one of us has got the faculty of understanding. I think brother Al-Amiyr may be allowed to complete his project without any undue hassle. I hope administration will have a re-think.

        Salaam!

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          al-amiyr
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          As you can see this thread the Book (al-kitaab) has now reached over 10 000 views.
          If it will not be blocked like my other thread The Qur'aan Cosmological Model then I predict that this thread of the Book (al-kitaab) would soon become the most popular in the history of Free Minds.

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            G_Omar
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            +salaam my good brother and my imam

            I pray to Al Haqq, the Almighty, that it will be, and that al haqq will soon prevail and bring all believers together under its glorious banner! hail pr

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              Birdy
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              Peace with you all people sun

              @al-amiyr

              A question.
              Do you posses the Al-Jafr (book) and have knowledge from it?

              PS I don't believe the book has ever existed and were narration from Prophet Mohammed sas.

              May God the Mercifully lead everyone to the stright path.

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                al-amiyr
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                Peace with you all people sun

                @al-amiyr

                A question.
                Do you posses the Al-Jafr (book) and have knowledge from it?

                PS I don't believe the book has ever existed and were narration from Prophet Mohammed sas.

                May God the Mercifully lead everyone to the stright path.

                salaam+ Birdy

                I wondered when someone would ask me this question. Yes I possess al-jafr. It has passed through the 44 generations of my fore fathers. The sons of our paternal uncle imaam muhammad al-baaqir (fifth imaam of the Shia Muslims inherited the physical jafr. Our line through amiyr zayd ibn ali (brother of imaam muhammad al-baaqir) inherited the mental 'jafr'. It is lodged into our brains and we teach it to whomever ALLAAH wishes guide anywhere. That is why so many of my fore fathers were killed and beheaded by the ruling elite and we had to go into hiding for all the time. But the time has come for it to be made known to the world. Nothing can stop it. With ALLAAH is the decree for all things. If you wish I can teach you al-jafr inshaa ALLAAH.

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                  salaam+ Birdy

                  I wondered when someone would ask me this question. Yes I possess al-jafr. It has passed through the 44 generations of my fore fathers. The sons of our paternal uncle imaam muhammad al-baaqir (fifth imaam of the Shia Muslims inherited the physical jafr. Our line through amiyr zayd ibn ali (brother of imaam muhammad al-baaqir) inherited the mental 'jafr'. It is lodged into our brains and we teach it to whomever ALLAAH wishes guide anywhere. That is why so many of my fore fathers were killed and beheaded by the ruling elite and we had to go into hiding for all the time. But the time has come for it to be made known to the world. Nothing can stop it. With ALLAAH is the decree for all things. If you wish I can teach you al-jafr inshaa ALLAAH.

                  So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

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                    Peace with you all sun

                    Thanks for response Al-Amiyr and for the invitation but I'm sorry I have to refuse it. I have already the best teacher ever and that's enough for me. I appriciate your understanding and remain with kindly regards.

                    May Allah the All-Wise lead us to the stright put.

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                      Peace with you all sun

                      Thanks for response Al-Amiyr and for the invitation but I'm sorry I have to refuse it. I have already the best teacher ever and that's enough for me. I appriciate your understanding and remain with kindly regards.

                      May Allah the All-Wise lead us to the stright put.

                      Peace upon and with all of you too

                      Thanks Birdy. I wish you all the best and great success in your studies. May ALLAAH guide all to his right path inshaa ALLAAH.

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                        G_Omar
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                        So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

                        The promised Mahadi will not proclaim himself. When the time of his ministry arrives it will be obvious to the believers who he is.

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                          farida
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                          So are you claiming to be the hidden imam? The promised Mahdi?

                          Only ALLAAH knows who the Mahdiy will be He will not need to proclaim. ALL who proclaim are the false ones. The world will know who he is when he comes.
                          sun

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                            faruk
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                            Salam , brother al-amiyr, I find this post interesting. Please don't be distracted by opening numerous threads with various titles , specially of hadiths and profecies. Better one after another. Finish this thread. It's long overdue. Thank you in advance.

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                              Peace / Salam

                              Al-amiyr,

                              I'm one of those who are trying sincerely to understand the meaning of Al-kitaab given to the informants / Al-Anbiya. I have wrestled with this question(s) for several years now and I am very open to new theories, even those who are contrary to my own. But before I decide to dedicate my time trying to understand others, I would like to first get answers to some questions, so that my time does not go in vain.

                              I have a sincere request to you.

                              Regarding verse 318

                              1. Could you give me an accurate translation of the verse by following the rules of grammar of the Arabic and English language.
                                If you wish you may break the verse in 2 (or 3) sections, starting with

                              2. Give me a full and detailed interpretation of the verse based on your knowledge of Al-kitaab

                              May our creator improve our understandings and shower us with patience.

                              Peace / salam

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                                farida
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                                Peace / Salam

                                Al-amiyr,

                                I'm one of those who are trying sincerely to understand the meaning of Al-kitaab given to the informants / Al-Anbiya. I have wrestled with this question(s) for several years now and I am very open to new theories, even those who are contrary to my own. But before I decide to dedicate my time trying to understand others, I would like to first get answers to some questions, so that my time does not go in vain.

                                I have a sincere request to you.

                                Regarding verse 318

                                1. Could you give me an accurate translation of the verse by following the rules of grammar of the Arabic and English language.
                                  If you wish you may break the verse in 2 (or 3) sections, starting with

                                2. Give me a full and detailed interpretation of the verse based on your knowledge of Al-kitaab

                                May our creator improve our understandings and shower us with patience.

                                Peace / salam

                                Peace/salaam Habibullah

                                Allow me introduce myself I am a student of al-amiyr and I have been learning from him since he first started posting in this forum. Often people accused al-amiyr of ignoring their questions, and thinking that he is incapable of answering their queries.
                                His answer is already available for all to see on the very first page of this thread. To make it easy for you I'll paste it below

                                "It is the easiest book in the world to study. No prior knowledge about anything is required. The reality will automatically dawn upon you. And you will become amazed at what you will begin to know and understand about everything.

                                Keep especially the following in mind;

                                Nobody can be told
                                what The Hidden Book is
                                you
                                like everyone else
                                must see it for yourself.

                                Therefore
                                let there be silence!
                                look
                                listen
                                learn
                                and
                                ponder
                                the understanding will also be yours."

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                                  newmoon
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                                  salaam

                                  Finally I want to make it clear that I firmly believe Muhmmad (saws) was the lastnabiyh andmessenger,and that ALLAH?s message to all mankind was perfected in the Qur?aan. We will from time to time get warners or teachers (not messenger) and that ALLAAH has given His chosen servants the Book, in inheritance.(3532),
                                  (1644)

                                  1. They swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner came to them, they would follow his guidance better than any (other) of the Peoples But when a warner came to them, it has only increased their flight (from righteousness),

                                  May ALLAAH guide all to learn from His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

                                  salaam+

                                  Muhammad is One among the Messengers and the The Last Prophet, not the Last Messenger

                                  3340 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah is fully aware of all things.

                                  4034 ?And Yusuf had come to you before with proofs, but you remained in doubt regarding what he came to you with, until when he died, you said ?Allah will not send any messenger after him.? It is such that Allah sends astray he who is a transgressor, doubter.?

                                  1047 And for every nation is a messenger; so when their messenger comes, the matter is decreed between them with justice, and they are not wronged.

                                  144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the wise.

                                  3971 And those who rejected will be driven to Hell in groups. When they reach it, and its gates are opened, its guards will say to them ?Did you not receive messengers from among you who recited to you the revelations of your Lord, and warned you about meeting this Day?? They said ?Yes indeed; but the sentence of retribution has come to pass upon the rejecters.?

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                                    cleanfox5982
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                                    Salam ,

                                    27-40 Said one who had knowledge from The Book / al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) ,", "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

                                    The man mentioned above , who was with Solomon / Sliman , has knowledge from "The Quantum/al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) ,"in my understanding" he has knowledge about the universal physical systems stetted up by allh , hence the word al-ktb in the above verse mean the book or the Quantum of the entire creation and its systems , the mentioning of this incredible skill to bring a thrown in a fraction of second linked to possessing knowledge from "The Quantum/al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) is not a arbitrary link , al-ktb in the verse above doesn't mean an ordinary book , and as we notice the verse mentioned the guy that he has only a knowledge from , mean not the whole knowledge but only a dot from it , as only allh has the whole and he control all .

                                    How can someone bring a throne ( a piece of matter objected in a physical releam ) in fraction of a seconds if he do not possess knowledge of what is named today as "quantum physics" witch is in truth what allh called in the al-qrn as al-ktb , this mean that the man should know about what is named today in the field of physics as photons , electrons , protons , particulls , quarks...etc , and all physical systems related , this names are with no meaning these are just Laghw in al-ktb , also the laws and theories explained in that field and all "scientific fields" is misleading and a pure "hearsay / hrtaka "

                                    What brother al-Amiyr is posting is a knowledge from "The Quantum /al-ktb" (aalm mn al-ktb) , the creative sounds/waves )))))))))))))))))) by witch allh create , modify , transform , destroy , change ... things al-chiyA , what is known and named as initials in the beginning of the surah in al-qrn are not only a ordinary "letters / hrouf " pronounced from a moth , they are the powerful creative sounds/waves )))))))))))))))))) ordered by allh to create , modify , transform , destroy , change ... what allh wants / Arad , they are the sings / ayat of "The Quantum /l-ktb" but in the same time these sounds are also the signs of l-qrn , mean the construction units / sounds ( letters / hrouf ) by witch "The speech of allh / klm allh " is builted up , this speech allh "made it / jaalh " as "Arabic tongue / Lsn aarbi" mean original or natural the al-qrn who is "The speech of allh / klm allh " is made up / mjaaoul by the same signs / ayt of "The Quantum /al-ktb" , look into this

                                    15-99 a L R , These are signs/ayt of The book /al-ktb and of a clear Qur'an / qrn

                                    15-99

                                    in another verse 27-1 , the two words and its construction are swapped

                                    27-1 T S , These are are signs/ayt of The Qur'an / al-qrn and of a clear Book /ktb

                                    In my opinion the concept of The book /al-ktb is more wide and vast , it has connection with the physical order and preservation , it has connection with the material manifestation , The Qur'an / al-qrn is also considered as a book / ktb because it contain allh's order / amr allh at the social level and also because The Qur'an / al-qrn same as book / ktb is builted up with the same signs / ayt , this signs / ayt are both a sounds pronounced by our tongue aaaaaaaaaaaaa , lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll , mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm , rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, sssssssssssssssssss...and they are the origin of any physical manifestation in the form of a ultimately creative powerful sounds / waves ))))))))))))))))))))))))) at the quantum level.

                                    There is difference between "allh's speech / klam allh " and "word's of allh / klmt allh " in The quran/al-qrn , "word's of allh / klmt allh " its doesn't mean speaking words , but creative sounds , that affect reality , every reality , "word's of allh / klmt allh " are a meaningful set up of sounds spread-ed up at the quantum level , they can change , transform , create , destroy anything by the order allh.

                                    8-7 And when allh promised you one of the two parties should be yours, and you were wishing that the one not accoutered should be yours; but allh was desiring to verify / yhk the truth / alhk by His words / klmth, and to cut off cut off the roots of the Unbelievers

                                    they wined them by "word's of allh / klmt allh " , mean allh made by his words / klmt the physical possibilities at the external and internal level that lead to the victory prepared and available to the believers to win

                                    In the other hand the "allh's speech / klam allh " is the recited order / judgement / explanations, that people should reflect upon and follow at the social level.

                                    More comparative feed back to be posted soon incha allh.

                                    salam

                                    Salam Dear All ,

                                    I will be confirming inchaA allaah brother al-amiyr's insight (insat / &#1578 in this thread and other thread , for those who are interested to the subject .

                                    The signs ayaat / that are in the beginning of some verses in the qur'an are , are signs of both the book al-kitab and the qur'an the reading or the complete reading and that is per the pattern fa3lan , see this for more explination regarding this pattern

                                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605810.0

                                    15-99
                                    15-99 ( a L R , These are signs/ayt of The book /al-ktb and of a clear Qur'an / qrn)

                                    in another verse 27-1 , the two words and its construction are swapped

                                    271
                                    27-1 ( T S , These are are signs/ayt of The Qur'an / al-qrn and of a clear Book /ktb)

                                    What is the Qur'an

                                    http//imageshack.us/a/img34/2324/8na0.jpg

                                    The qur'an ( the complete reading or the most completed of what you can read ) is the software or the CD driver

                                    What is the book al-kitab

                                    http//imageshack.us/a/img196/2802/2hfi.jpg

                                    The book al-kitab ( The hardwear , the container , the set up and the record of everything)

                                    More proof , arguments and wonders to come inchaA allah

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                                      peace

                                      There are countless many wonders to see.

                                      Knowledge of the Book, is also known as Samadhi absorption

                                      One stage of Samadhi is Savikalpa, which is turning to The God often.

                                      These are measurable states. The very Breath/Ruh of the person is in the action of turning to The God again and again with each breath, this is Samadhi and this is meditation/Salat.

                                      In doing this, the mental insinuations are allowed to shine and be comprehended, the habits are allowed to become malleable, the argumentative nature is satiated immediately by the nourishing water of the Light of Allah, Knowledge-Knowing-Knowingness==Knowingness-Knowing-Knowledge (Spanda).

                                      One endpoint of Salat is known as Nirvikalpa Samadhi. At this point the person is in total completion of their Soul's mission on Earth with regards to searching for The Supreme within their own Self. There is beyond this even, but I shall leave that to your Self

                                      The Breath/Ruh, is the very Writer of the Nafs/Autobiography/Self of the human being. It is a single Ruh that animates the entire universe. The Ruh originated as singular breath (Unity - 2130) and emanates outwards from the Source of All Creation, exploring infinite complexity. The Breath returns to The Source in an ordained measure. With each breath, infinite complexity flows into the Heavens and Earth, and a cycle flows. A day becomes night, a coolness becomes warm.

                                      There is a special occurence at the center point of the breath. That is when the breath is moving from inhale to exhale, and from exhale to inhale. This is the Primordial Sound of AUM which may be revealed to be orchestrating all things.

                                      Our Sight is limited to the edge of visible space defined by an interval cT where c is the speed of Light and T is the age of universe. There is a perfect spherical boundary around the Earth the Earth is a small sphere within a greater sphere. The greater sphere itself is an Earth, and from this one there is another yet, exactly outward in the same fashion.

                                      The first spherical boundary is the lowest heaven. This is adorned with stars. On the edge of this boundary occurs communication from the second heaven. On the edge of the boundary of the second heaven occurs communication from the third until we reach the seventh.

                                      Our Hearing is unlimited. We are capable of hearing towards the highest heaven. We cannot See the Supreme but we are always hearing the Supreme. All creation is animated by the Sound of the Supreme's Voice, the AUM. We hear a single sound always, the phononic resonance of all creation.

                                      Perhaps a Self may look toward the example of Musa and the Mountain to understand the nature of the Seer of all things, who is revealed as the night rotates, to be the Hearer, Knower

                                      Then it is for us to accept or reject the communications. The heart may discern which sounds to listen to, thus we may declare that the eyes are surely not blind, but blind indeed are the hearts within the breasts.
                                      The Supreme has the quality of Clear Light, Light upon Light or Darkness upon Darkness, both of which are pointers to the nature of the Supreme which may only be comprehended by the Supreme within one Self

                                      jedi

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                                        peace

                                        There are countless many wonders to see.

                                        Knowledge of the Book, is also known as Samadhi absorption

                                        One stage of Samadhi is Savikalpa, which is turning to The God often.

                                        These are measurable states. The very Breath/Ruh of the person is in the action of turning to The God again and again with each breath, this is Samadhi and this is meditation/Salat.

                                        In doing this, the mental insinuations are allowed to shine and be comprehended, the habits are allowed to become malleable, the argumentative nature is satiated immediately by the nourishing water of the Light of Allah, Knowledge-Knowing-Knowingness==Knowingness-Knowing-Knowledge (Spanda).

                                        One endpoint of Salat is known as Nirvikalpa Samadhi. At this point the person is in total completion of their Soul's mission on Earth with regards to searching for The Supreme within their own Self. There is beyond this even, but I shall leave that to your Self

                                        The Breath/Ruh, is the very Writer of the Nafs/Autobiography/Self of the human being. It is a single Ruh that animates the entire universe. The Ruh originated as singular breath (Unity - 2130) and emanates outwards from the Source of All Creation, exploring infinite complexity. The Breath returns to The Source in an ordained measure. With each breath, infinite complexity flows into the Heavens and Earth, and a cycle flows. A day becomes night, a coolness becomes warm.

                                        There is a special occurence at the center point of the breath. That is when the breath is moving from inhale to exhale, and from exhale to inhale. This is the Primordial Sound of AUM which may be revealed to be orchestrating all things.

                                        Our Sight is limited to the edge of visible space defined by an interval cT where c is the speed of Light and T is the age of universe. There is a perfect spherical boundary around the Earth the Earth is a small sphere within a greater sphere. The greater sphere itself is an Earth, and from this one there is another yet, exactly outward in the same fashion.

                                        The first spherical boundary is the lowest heaven. This is adorned with stars. On the edge of this boundary occurs communication from the second heaven. On the edge of the boundary of the second heaven occurs communication from the third until we reach the seventh.

                                        Our Hearing is unlimited. We are capable of hearing towards the highest heaven. We cannot See the Supreme but we are always hearing the Supreme. All creation is animated by the Sound of the Supreme's Voice, the AUM. We hear a single sound always, the phononic resonance of all creation.

                                        Perhaps a Self may look toward the example of Musa and the Mountain to understand the nature of the Seer of all things, who is revealed as the night rotates, to be the Hearer, Knower

                                        Then it is for us to accept or reject the communications. The heart may discern which sounds to listen to, thus we may declare that the eyes are surely not blind, but blind indeed are the hearts within the breasts.
                                        The Supreme has the quality of Clear Light, Light upon Light or Darkness upon Darkness, both of which are pointers to the nature of the Supreme which may only be comprehended by the Supreme within one Self

                                        jedi

                                        salam )

                                        You mention great insights , there are many correct knowledge with the ancient civilization notably the vedic literature that needs to be verified , investigated , sharpened and connected to its true foundations . Also what is known as Myth / ( history ) assatir about ancient civilization contain truth covered or derived or exaggerated that needs to be sifted , the sieve tool is The Qur'an .

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                                        The qur'an is the sieve , the scale and the criterion .

                                        If someone can connect the truth in these knowledge to the Qur'an then he is in the right path .

                                        I like your writing but i appreciate you focus your knowledge in one topic and give it what it deserve then connected it the the major foundations then move to other one , your studies and conclusions would be great if you write with sequence .

                                        Looking forward

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