What is Islam?
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Salam muslims,
Let me be done with Khalifa first.
Allah had said He would place man His Khalifa on earth who shall know the truth of the heavens and the earth and everything in between by intuition from Him and has governing authority over them by His leave; and He had not mentioned who that man is; and who that one could be; and we do not know until Allah reveals if any man had attained that state yet. And it is not for us to choose even a leader in islam, leave alone khalifa.
The prophets and the messengers came with the Signs of Allah, from heavens down to earth; but then almost all of them were belied and denied by the rejectors and spoiled every efforts at conciliation, mediation and negotiation to the point that they drove even the Prophet Nuh to plead with Allah to destroy the world full of such sort of people. And this too is sunnatullah. This is justice, upholding the balance between the skies down to earth pleading and interceding with Allah.
The point is we would never know unless that time comes who Allah would reveal as His Khalifa on earth and when it happens we would know him too as we know our own kinsfolk.
Salaamun alayka,
RED Allah never said he would place HIS khalifa on earth.
Allah has no khalifa, subhanaHu.Salaam,
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Peace Brother,
Quran connects Past,Present and Future. There is always Messenger till last days. Allah says there is always Messenger.
445
surely We have been sending Messengers497
And know that among you is the Messenger of AllahSalaamun alayka,
I think you misquoted 445.
But I agree with you that there are always messengers.
salaam,
Bender -
peace brother,
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every verse is guidance by the leave of Allah, for righteous that suits all context.
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the reader
Salam DrGm,
I rather limit the context of "Allah's Message" and "Messenger of Allah" to its original context
This day I have perfected for you your Din (dnakum)
and completed My favor upon you
and have approved for you Islam as your Din (dnan)
(<a href="http//quran.com/5/3">53</a>Muhammad is not the father of one of your men
but the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets
And ever is Allah
of all things, Knowing.
(<a href="http//quran.com/33/40">3340</a>Peace brother.
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Salaamun alayka,
Do you have a verse for this statement?
Salaam,
BenderSalam Bender,
Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.
It is also everywhere in the Qur'an that Allah is just (6115) and commands justice (1690).
If you wish, you can dispute this attribute and bring your perspective into discussion.
Peace brother.
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Salam Bender,
Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.
It is also everywhere in the Qur'an that Allah is just (6115) and commands justice (1690).
If you wish, you can dispute this attribute and bring your perspective into discussion.
Peace brother.
Salaamun alayka bro,
6115 talks about Allah's Word not Himself.
1690 Allah commands here Al3dal NOT He is Al3adl.Salaam,
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Salaamun alayka,
RED Allah never said he would place HIS khalifa on earth.
Allah has no khalifa, subhanaHu.Salaam,
BenderWould it be a blemish on Allah? Or do you think it would tarnish His image and undermine His Purity and Authority to get at such understanding? For who the universe is? It is for man; Subhanahu, Allah is Most Pure! Allah does not need it for Himself even a spec of it. Allah created it for man to think and ponder the skies and earth i.e. the entire universe so that they would by His leave shall obey and work by man's command. Do you deny any of these?
On the Last Day, heavens and the earth - the entire universe would be removed and changed for one last time that they would last forever. If you want to save you from the punishment of fire, 3191 ponder over them. If you do not do this, on the Lasting Day, when you will be rewarded and recompensed, - would last as long as the heavens and the earth would last. And it would last forever.
I do not see the need for your such expression "Subhanahu", here.
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Salaamun alayka bro,
6115 talks about Allah's Word not Himself.
1690 Allah commands here Al3dal NOT He is Al3adl.Salaam,
BenderSalam Bender,
As I said, the "asma ul husna" and "you can dispute this attribute and bring your perspective into discussion."
I believe this is your argument
Premise 1 Sura 6115 stated that "the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice"
Premise 2 You said "6115 talks about Allah's Word not Himself."
Conclusion Therefore, Allah is ___________________________?So then.. what is your conclusion and assumptions?
Peace brother.
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The root 'a-d-l has the following classical Arabic connotations
- to act justly, fairly
- to be equitable, impartial
- to adjust properly, to make even
- to straighten, to rectify, to establish justice
- to balance, counterbalance, to make equal, uniform
- to turn one away from something, rightly direct
- to make comfortable with what is right
The One who rectifies and sets matters straight in a fair, impartial and equitable manner.
The One who always acts justly.
The One who delivers absolute justice.
The One whose wisdom of justice is based upon complete knowledge of past, present and future. -
Salam DrGm,
I rather limit the context of "Allah's Message" and "Messenger of Allah" to its original context
This day I have perfected for you your Din (dnakum)
and completed My favor upon you
and have approved for you Islam as your Din (dnan)
(<a href="http//quran.com/5/3">53</a>Muhammad is not the father of one of your men
but the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets
And ever is Allah
of all things, Knowing.
(<a href="http//quran.com/33/40">3340</a>Peace brother.
peace brother,
- 'this day' is the appointed day by the leave of Allah for an individual who seeks Allah's guidance. this is original context for any individual till the last day.
what is 'this day' for you?
- Mohammed is a messenger and the seal of the prophets. moreover i do not believe, Adam.. Nuh.. Aad.. Ibrahim..Musa..Isa..Mohammed.. have any direct blood line, they are examples in the path of peace for humankind. every believer in the path of peace are the descendants of prophets, messengers, noblemen, witnesses, righteous, martyrs.. Allah is all knowing.
having quoted 3340 ,what is your context here? please explain.
peace.
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This is only from a philosophical aspect ... (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">continue from here</a>
Reality > "...Say He is Allah, One!..." (1121)
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Knowledge of the "0" > Knowledge from emptiness - Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'un
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Knowledge of the "1" > "...Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior..." (334)
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Knowledge of the "2"
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Knowledge of the "3"
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Knowledge of the "4" > Towards a full understanding on the element of Fire + Air + Water + Earth
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Knowledge of more than "4" > "...Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return..." (21http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png
Islam
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Formula
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Attributes
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Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
(How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a>)
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Fire Air Water Earth
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South West East North
Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / HumbleWe can apply this formula in all aspects of our life
ie. To establish "Solat and Jihad" in ourselves.
Business > Just and balance > Fire + Air + Water + Earth
Family > Just and balance > Fire + Air + Water + Earth
Health > Just and balance > Fire + Air + Water + Earth
Career > Just and balance > Fire + Air + Water + Earthand so on...
Comparison with other aspects and so as to get a picture of its attributes... eg. Astrological aspects
Fire Air Water Earth
Aries Aquarius Pisces Capricorn
Leo Gemini Cancer Taurus
Sagittarius Libra Scorpio VirgoO mankind, indeed We have created you
from male and female
and made you peoples
and tribes
that you may know one another
Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
is the most righteous of you
Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
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peace brother,
- 'this day' is the appointed day by the leave of Allah for an individual who seeks Allah's guidance. this is original context for any individual till the last day.
what is 'this day' for you?
- Mohammed is a messenger and the seal of the prophets. moreover i do not believe, Adam.. Nuh.. Aad.. Ibrahim..Musa..Isa..Mohammed.. have any direct blood line, they are examples in the path of peace for humankind. every believer in the path of peace are the descendants of prophets, messengers, noblemen, witnesses, righteous, martyrs.. Allah is all knowing.
having quoted 3340 ,what is your context here? please explain.
peace.
Salam DrGm,
Obviously "this day" is not "today" ..
Otherwise you are suggesting the Qur'an is still not completed/perfected.
Peace brother.
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Salam DrGm,
Obviously "this day" is not "today" ..
Otherwise you are suggesting the Qur'an is still not completed/perfected.
Peace brother.
peace brother,
you and me may be not perfected today. those who got perfected 'today' you and me may not be knowing. Allah knows.
Quran is completed for the individual who attained it.
peace.
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peace brother,
you and me may be not perfected today. those who got perfected 'today' you and me may not be knowing. Allah knows.
Quran is completed for the individual who attained it.
peace.
Salam DrGm.
We are not talking about "you" and "me"
We are talking about the Qur'an.. has it been perfected or not?
If it is so.. then the words "this day" is not "today".
Otherwise, the Qur'an will never be perfected since the Qur'an is dependent on each of us to be perfected. So it is us that has not been perfected (our understanding), not the Qur'an. The Qur'an is always there and ready for us to understand its meaning.
Peace brother.
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Salam DrGm.
We are not talking about "you" and "me"
We are talking about the Qur'an.. has it been perfected or not?
If it is so.. then the words "this day" is not "today".
Otherwise, the Qur'an will never be perfected since the Qur'an is dependent on each of us to be perfected. So it is us that has not been perfected (our understanding), not the Qur'an. The Qur'an is always there and ready for us to understand its meaning.
Peace brother.
Peace,
Sorry to interfere, but I think you people are not about "you", "me" and "alQuraan", if you are talking about 53. Because, it is about "deenakum" not alQuraan.
53 ... ...
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Peace,
Sorry to interfere, but I think you people are not about "you", "me" and "alQuraan", if you are talking about 53. Because, it is about "deenakum" not alQuraan.
53 ... ...
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanSalam mmkhan,
You are correct, Allah Din has been completed..
but then, what is the "source of reference" for this "deenakum"?
Further, the main issue is related to the following statement, "this day" and "today", and not specifically focusing on the Qur'an or Deenakum.
you and me may be not perfected today. those who got perfected 'today' you and me may not be knowing. Allah knows.
Quran is completed for the individual who attained it.
Peace brother.
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Salam mmkhan,
You are correct, Allah Din has been completed..
but then, what is the "source of reference" for this "deenakum"?
Further, the main issue is related to the following statement, "this day" and "today", and not specifically focusing on the Qur'an or Deenakum.
Peace brother.
Salaam brother,
Red Sorry, it says Deenakum means YOUR Deen, not Allah's D
May Allah bless you pr
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Salaam brother,
Red Sorry, it says Deenakum means YOUR Deen, not Allah's
May Allah bless you pr
mmKhanSalam mmkhan,
So Muhammad's Deen (your Deen) is not referring to Allah's Deen?
It is not referring to Islam?
Sorry for this question, sometimes I may have overlooked the simplest rule or facts from the Qur'an and need to clarify it with others.
Peace brother.
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Salam mmkhan,
So Muhammad's Deen (your Deen) is not referring to Allah's Deen?
It is not referring to Islam?
Peace brother.
Salaam brother,
Of course not, if it was referring to Muhammad's Deen, it would have said so clearly. "Your" is plural in 53, so it is referring to Our Deen not Allah's either. There are two more parts mentioned in this aayat along with Your Deen as
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...Today I have perfected your Deen for you ...... ...
...And I have completed upon you my favor...... ...
...And I have chosen for you alIslam as a Deen ...Please take a look at this thread to understand the usage of "al" in alQuraan, inshaAllah.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhan