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is Hajj a once in a life time thing, or something to do with everyday........

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    Wakas
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    peace Khalil,

    I am aware of that verse, and I am also aware of the chapter it comes from, chapter 9. The answer lies therein in my view.

    However, IF you are implying "al hajj" is open to mankind except "the mushriks" then please let us know how we identify "the mushrik". Thanks.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      peace Khalil,

      I am aware of that verse, and I am also aware of the chapter it comes from, chapter 9. The answer lies therein in my view.

      However, IF you are implying "al hajj" is open to mankind except "the mushriks" then please let us know how we identify "the mushrik". Thanks.

      If someone openly announces worshiping other than GOD, ALLAAH, swt, alone is a mushrik, like the majority of Christians.

      Peace,
      Khalil

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        Okay , so AlmasjidAlharam isn't part of ALHaj then! yes

        Al Haj for all Menyes.

        2227
        "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

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          peace,

          If someone openly announces worshiping other than GOD, ALLAAH, swt, alone is a mushrik, like the majority of Christians.

          Ahh you mean those who openly announce it, not actually all "mushrikeen".... as there are "mushrikeen" who don't know it, that is why I asked

          And the Day We gather them all, then We say to those who set up partners "Where are your partners whom you used to claim?"
          Then, not for them will be a plea except to say "By God, our Lord, we did not set up partners!"
          See how they lied to themselves; and that which they invented deserted them.

          In my view, it simply refers to the mushrikeen who broke the treaty, see chapter 9.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            #27

            Okay , so AlmasjidAlharam isn't part of ALHaj then! yes

            Al Haj for all Menyes.

            2227
            "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

            357, have you even read ALL Quran occurrences of the word you are trying to figure out? Surely that is a good place to start!

            Surely, those who have rejected/concealed and hinder from the path of God and al masjid al haram which We made for mankind... 2225

            I recommend actually reading all Quran occurrences of X before concluding about X. I find this technique useful.
            http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              kgwithnob
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              Okay , so AlmasjidAlharam isn't part of ALHaj then! yes

              Al Haj for all Menyes.

              2227
              "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

              1). Al-Masjidulharaam is an integral and very important part of Hajj and Umrah pilgrimages.

              2). Hajj pilgrimage is for all the people, but not allowed for POLYTHEISTS/MUSHRIKs.

              Peace,
              Khalil

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                Surely, those who have rejected/concealed and hinder from the path of God and al masjid al haram which We made for mankind... 2225

                well i always thought Mushrikeen where part of mankind, explain how they aren't!

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                  well i always thought Mushrikeen where part of mankind, explain how they aren't!

                  If someone dies as a mushrik, he /she is destined to go to hell. They are part of mankind too.

                  Peace,
                  Khalil

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                    If someone dies as a mushrik, he /she is destined to go to hell. They are part of mankind too.

                    Peace,
                    Khalil

                    Khalil,

                    if they are part of mankind, then they are being invited to hajj , here-

                    2227
                    "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

                    and here to almasjidalharam.

                    Surely, those who have rejected/concealed and hinder from the path of God and al masjid al haram which We made for mankind... 2225

                    and not to let them here

                    928,

                    O you who believe, the Mushriks are impure indeed, so let them not approach Al-Masjid-ul-Haram after this year. And if you apprehend poverty, then, Allah shall, if He wills, make you self-sufficient with His grace. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

                    Are they part of Mankind ?

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                      Khalil,

                      if they are part of mankind, then they are being invited to hajj , here-

                      2227
                      "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

                      and here to almasjidalharam.

                      Surely, those who have rejected/concealed and hinder from the path of God and al masjid al haram which We made for mankind... 2225

                      and not to let them here

                      928,

                      O you who believe, the Mushriks are impure indeed, so let them not approach Al-Masjid-ul-Haram after this year. And if you apprehend poverty, then, Allah shall, if He wills, make you self-sufficient with His grace. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

                      Are they part of Mankind ?

                      All people were invited for Hajj pilgrimage till before 928 was revealed. After that mushrik people were band from entering the sacred mosque at any time.

                      Peace,
                      Khalil

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                        O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! The idolaters have made their hearts
                        unclean (and the Sacred Masjid of Makkah is the House of Pure Monotheism.
                        Only those who believe in the Divine System can administer this Sacred House]
                        So let not the Idolaters come close to it (for administering the House) after this
                        year of theirs. If you fear loss of any gains, God will enrich you with His bounty.
                        This is the promise of God Who is Knower, Wise.

                        QXP by DR. Shabbir
                        Peace

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                          Wakas
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                          well i always thought Mushrikeen where part of mankind, explain how they aren't!

                          My view is already given in the link I have given you several times, if you do not want to read it then don't.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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