(4:59) What is the true meaning of Ulil-Amri?
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Salam,
O you who believe, obey God and obey the messenger and those in authorityWhy Allah did not say Obey the Prophet. It means Messengers keeps coming till Last day
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salaam+ al-amiyr,
Thank you for the explanation and that can also be true, but it is not a requirement.
But those firm in knowledge say
"We believe in it
All is from our Lord."
And no one will be reminded <- the reminder -> "..no one knows its interpretation.."
except those of understanding
(<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>Allah does not charge a soul except its capacity
(<a href="http//quran.com/2/286">2286</a>Therefore, it is reasonable not to make it obvious for some things that were meant to be hidden, know that the Master of Wisdom was privy to such exalted knowledge than they could attain from the Qur'an. Human life is a process.
And you become three kinds
(<a href="http//quran.com/56/7">567</a>I'm also unable to understand the connectivity of (459) with your conclusion that "the Book (al-kitaab) is in the brains of the possessors of the command ('uwlu-l-'amr)".
Peace brother.
+salaam muslims
Before I can answer we first need to determine what the Book (al-kitaab) is or means. Could you with your normally beautiful layout present your understanding inshaa ALLAAH so that we can see if we are standing on solid grounds where upon to erect superstructures.
Sincere Peace brother
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+salaam muslims
Before I can answer we first need to determine what the Book (al-kitaab) is or means. Could you with your normally beautiful layout present your understanding inshaa ALLAAH so that we can see if we are standing on solid grounds where upon to erect superstructures.
Sincere Peace brother
+salaam al-amiyr,
I'm following a simple rule.
no one knows its interpretation (<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>
and ...
We believe in it
All is from our Lord <- including your Hidden Book, or any other Books.
(<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>and ...
Free ourselves from Shirk, observe the "DO NOT" prohibition and work towards human unity.
Everything else, leave it to Allah.
However, you are free to explain since I'm open to all kinds of knowledge, good or bad, anything ... or should I say
X-X-X-X, X-- -X- XX-- X- -XXX--X X-XX- -'X -X-X X- -XX X-XXX -X XX-XX-XX-, X--X -X X-X, -XXXX-XX.
(sorry, it is not verbs)So...
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What is the Book (al-kitaab)?
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Why it is so important for the Deen of Islam, for our salvation?
Peace brother.
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+salaam al-amiyr,
I'm following a simple rule.
no one knows its interpretation (<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>
and ...
We believe in it
All is from our Lord <- including your Hidden Book, or any other Books.
(<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>and ...
Free ourselves from Shirk, observe the "DO NOT" prohibition and towards human unity.
Everything else, leave it to Allah.
However, you are free to explain since I'm open to all kinds of knowledge, good or bad, anything ... or should I say
X-X-X-X, X-- -X- XX-- X- -XXX--X X-XX- -'X -X-X X- -XX X-XXX -X XX-XX-XX-, X--X -X X-X, -XXXX-XX.
(sorry, it is not verbs)So...
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What is the Book (al-kitaab)?
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Why it is so important for the Deen of Islam, for our salvation?
Peace brother.
+salaam muslims
Could you explain,
X-X-X-X, X-- -X- XX-- X- -XXX--X X-XX- -'X -X-X X- -XX X-XXX -X XX-XX-XX-, X--X -X X-X, -XXXX-XX.
(sorry, it is not verbs)Who said that they are verbs? And why did you post those eXes and dashes? )
Peace brother
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+salaam muslims
Could you explain,
Who said that they are verbs? And why did you post those eXes and dashes? )
Peace brother
+salaam al-amiyr
It is just my quick observation on your teaching and have not understood all the rules.
I believe you are trying to identify the pattern of languages (signs in sounds and languages) and trying to explain the Qur'an by connecting its meanings with all these signs. Sounds and waves is an energy, so as dzikir or Kun Faya Kun. Maybe this is the reason why you've called it Hidden (understanding).
Peace brother.
However, you are free to explain since I'm open to all kinds of knowledge, good or bad, anything = X-X-X-X, X-- -X- XX-- X- -XXX--X X-XX- -'X -X-X X- -XX X-XXX -X XX-XX-XX-, X--X -X X-X, -XXXX-XX.
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+salaam al-amiyr
It is just my quick observation on your teaching and have not understood all the rules.
I believe you are trying to identify the pattern of languages (signs in sounds and languages) and trying to explain the Qur'an by connecting its meanings with all these signs. Sounds and waves is an energy, so as dzikir or Kun Faya Kun. Maybe this is the reason why you've called it Hidden (understanding).
Peace brother.
+salaam muslims
You said and I quote,
+salaam al-amiyr
It is just my quick observation on your teaching and have not understood all the rules.
It is very important for everyone to understand what someone else has said before commenting as one can make a mistake and say the wrong things about what that person had said. Right or wrong? I myself first read carefully what you have said before commenting.
I believe you are trying to identify the pattern of languages (signs in sounds and languages)
No! That is not what I am presenting here! )
and trying to explain the Qur'an by connecting its meanings with all these signs. (understanding).
No! Also not what I am trying to do )
Maybe this is the reason why you've called it Hidden (understanding).
No! Also nothing to do with the Book (al-kitaab) spoken of by ALLAAH in the Qur'aan )
A complete misunderstanding brother and therefore a complete inaccurate understanding of my presentations. I hope you will spend some time reading the thread The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model inshaa ALLAAH.
Peace as well brother
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After the Originator of the creation had set in motion the evolution of intelligent life (human beings) on Earth over a long period of time, He created by direct creation another human being called Aadam which simply means Man ('insaan) about 6000 years ago.
Highlights above are from me.
Salaam Dear al-amiyr,
Do you believe that Adam is the common progenitor of the whole human race living on Earth today?
Peace,
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+salaam muslims
You said and I quote,
It is very important for everyone to understand what someone else has said before commenting as one can make a mistake and say the wrong things about what that person had said. Right or wrong? I myself first read carefully what you have said before commenting.No! That is not what I am presenting here!
No! Also not what I am trying to do
No! Also nothing to do with the Book (al-kitaab) spoken of by ALLAAH in the Qur'aan
A complete misunderstanding brother and therefore a complete inaccurate understanding of my presentations. I hope you will spend some time reading the thread The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model inshaa ALLAAH.
Peace as well brother
+salaam al-amiyr
Here is your definition
What is the Qur?aan Lexicographical Model?
The Qur?aan Lexicographical Model is a program of the design, order, and structure of all the words of the Arabic language. Beginning from the layout and forms of the fundamental verbal root letters; their various types; their further extended verbal dimensions; and all their possible derived words visually presented as a model of about a thousand pages arranged vertically and horizontally.The Qur?aan Lexicographical Model
is a program <- to identify what? (below)of the design,
order,
and structure <- how words become structure etc.? sounds...of all the words <- what is words?
of the Arabic language <- what is language?
Qur?aan + Lexicographical Model
What is words?
a single distinct meaningful element
of speech <- sounds
or writing <- then into writing -> pattern -> design -> order -> structure -> Lexicographical Model?
used with others (or sometimes alone)
to form a sentence
and typically shown
with a space on either side when written or printed.What is language?
the method of
human communication
either
spoken <- sounds
or written <- written -> pattern -> design -> order -> structure -> Lexicographical Model?
consisting of the use of
words
in a structured
and conventional way.From this "sounds" of Arabic language (which you claimed it as mathematical pattern), you then identify the pattern and its similarities. You then create the design, order, structure, pattern or formula, the 5 verbs tense or 15 verbs tense or whatever your theories are.
Origin of languages <- sounds <- I'm here.
http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
Arabic language <- you are hereI believe you are trying to identify the pattern of languages (signs in sounds and languages)
Have I missed something from your definition?
Peace brother.
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Highlights above are from me.
Salaam Dear al-amiyr,
Do you believe that Adam is the common progenitor of the whole human race living on Earth today?
Peace,
Khalil+salaam Dear Khalil
No! I understand that Aadam(P+) was a special man ALLAAH had created within humanity on the present earth of the present universe just as Jesus(D+) was a special man ALLAAH had created within humanity on the present earth of the present universe. Every universe had its created Aadam(P+) upon the likeness of the first to continue the remembrance of ALLAAH. Those are just the simple details. But there is no problem if any one wants to understand it the way they understand it. And may ALLAAH guide all to the right understanding inshaa ALLAAH.
Peace
al-amiyr -
+salaam al-amiyr
Here is your definition
The Qur?aan Lexicographical Model
is a program <- to identify what? (below)of the design,
order,
and structure <- how words become structure etc.? sounds...of all the words <- what is words?
of the Arabic language <- what is language?
Qur?aan + Lexicographical Model
What is words?
a single distinct meaningful element
of speech <- sounds
or writing <- then into written -> pattern -> design -> order -> structure -> Lexicographical Model?
used with others (or sometimes alone)
to form a sentence
and typically shown
with a space on either side when written or printed.What is language?
the method of
human communication
either
spoken <- sounds
or written <- then written -> pattern -> design -> order -> structure -> Lexicographical Model?
consisting of the use of
words
in a structured
and conventional way.From this "sounds" of Arabic language (which you claimed it as mathematical pattern), you then identify the pattern and its similarities. You then create the design, order, structure, pattern or formula, the 5 verbs tense or 15 verbs tense or whatever your theories are.
Origin of languages <- sounds <- I'm here.
http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
Arabic language <- you are hereAre sounds a sign from Allah? Of course.
Have I missed something from your definition?
Peace brother.
+salaam muslims
You set it out beautifully. Two important remarks! One from your statement. And one from your final question.
From your statement and I quote,
the 5 verbs tense or 15 verbs tense or whatever your theories are.
1- I have never said 5 verb tenses or 15 verb tenses- That do not exist in the Arabic language of the Qur'aan. I said their various types; their further extended verbal dimensions. There is a great difference between the two. Only one who knows nothing of Arabic will say something like that.
2.They are not my theories. Ask anyone who has studied Arabic to present the various Arabic verbal roots and there extensions. It is common knowledge.From your statement and I quote,
Have I missed something from your definition?
My definition addresses the Arabic language only and not other languages as you have stated. I make only comparisons to show the Par Excellence of the Arabic language of the Qur'aan above all else.
I would suggest you take a quick explanation from me as to what I am saying inshaa ALLAAH.
+salaam
al-amiyr -
+salaam al-amiyr
1- I have never said 5 verb tenses or 15 verb tenses- That do not exist in the Arabic language of the Qur'aan. I said their various types; their further extended verbal dimensions. There is a great difference between the two. Only one who knows nothing of Arabic will say something like that.
2.They are not my theories. Ask anyone who has studied Arabic to present the various Arabic verbal roots and there extensions. It is common knowledge.From this "sounds" of Arabic language (which you claimed it as mathematical pattern), you then identify the pattern and its similarities. You then create the design, order, structure, pattern or formula, the 5 verbs tense or 15 verbs tense or whatever your theories are.
Okay. I said "You then" create the design ... So, I'm not referring to the Arabic language, but to the following chart; i.e. your extended verbal dimensions.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod2.png
I make only comparisons to show the Par Excellence of the Arabic language of the Qur'aan above all else.
You are identifying the pattern for comparison.
I believe you are trying to identify the pattern of languages (signs in sounds and languages)
I would suggest you take a quick explanation from me as to what I am saying inshaa ALLAAH.
you are free to explain since I'm open to all kinds of knowledge, good or bad, anything ...
Peace brother.
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+salaam al-amiyr
Okay. I said "You then" create the design ... So, I'm not referring to the Arabic language, but to the following chart; i.e. your extended verbal dimensions.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod2.png
You are identifying the pattern for comparison.
Peace brother.
+salaam muslims
You finally got it correct until this initial point. Can you explain the following Program to generate all Arabic Root Verbs(The verbs of the language of the Qur'aan)?
- what does the X represent?
- what do the XX represent?
- what do the XX represent?
- what does the single dash represent?
- what do the -- dash represent?
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod1.png
+salaam
al-amiyr -
+salaam muslims
You finally got it correct until this initial point. Can you explain the following Program to generate all Arabic Root Verbs(The verbs of the language of the Qur'aan)?
- what does the X represent?
- what do the XX represent?
- what do the XX represent?
- what does the single dash represent?
- what do the -- dash represent?
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod1.png
+salaam
al-amiyr+salaam al-amiyr,
It is stated in the Key area/table.
X = b, c, d, f, g, h, j, k, l, m, n, p, q, r, s, t, v, w, x, y, z or 28 letters of arabic alphabet?
XX = double from any of the above
XX = single consonant separated by '
single dash = a, i, u
-- dash = aa, iy, uw
(e)(o)Peace brother.
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+salaam Dear Khalil
No! I understand that Aadam(P+) was a special man ALLAAH had created within humanity on the present earth of the present universe just as Jesus(D+) was a special man ALLAAH had created within humanity on the present earth of the present universe. Every universe had its created Aadam(P+) upon the likeness of the first to continue the remembrance of ALLAAH. Those are just the simple details. But there is no problem if any one wants to understand it the way they understand it. And may ALLAAH guide all to the right understanding inshaa ALLAAH.
Peace
al-amiyrSo according to you, the majority of humans were forsaken by GOD and only the children of Adam became GOD?s favorites starting ?6000? years ago. He kept sending messengers to them in order to guide them, right? The Qur?aan only addresses the children of Adam and there is no mention of the others at all.
Starting from the first day, the angels were to prostrate before Adam, not to mention the Satan, promising to keep misguiding Adam?s progeny till the Judgment day.
Then, what about the majority (probably more than 90%) of the human population who, according to your calculations, are not of the Adam?s progeny? There is no mention of this majority in The Qur?aan. Have this majority been on their own all this time? What happens to them after they die? Are they going to be resurrected? Are they going to be judged? Maybe they all will get free tickets to enter paradise! Please enlighten us on this petty issue. Believe me; I?m not trying to be sarcastic. I am only appalled.
Peace,
Khalil -
+salaam al-amiyr,
It is stated in the Key area/table.
X = b, c, d, f, g, h, j, k, l, m, n, p, q, r, s, t, v, w, x, y, z.
XX = double from any of the above
XX = single consonant separated by '
single dash = a, i, u
-- dash = aa, iy, uw
Peace brother.
+salaam brother muslims
Excellent! I have already observed some time back that you are quite an intelligent thinker. I consider you among those whose words and advice merits consideration.
I have already taught more than a thousand persons to read the Qur'aan in Arabic. Many who did it in just one week.I am not sure how much you know of Arabic reading but read the following!
as-salaamu "alaykum
The 19th last chapter of the Qur'aan which contains the first five revealed verses reads at the beginning as follows
iqra' bismi rabbikalladhiy khalaqa
Read/Recite! In the name of thy Lord who created.I would like to present to all those who would like to learn how to read the Qur'aan in Arabic with a few basic lessons to achieve this easy and desired goal.
Nothing is complicated. If you really learn hard you could nearly achieve the task in 24 hours. Begin to master the Qur'aan yourself and read it in the language in which it was revealed.
Let's begin!
Keep the following in mind. It is the overall statement that covers this lesson that will make you literate in the Arabic language in its unconnected form. The connected form is just a few steps from there. I have taught many to read and write Arabic in just twenty four hours. That is a 95% + plus of any Arabic word. Remember reading and writing not speaking. Learning the language will be for another thread. Inshaa allaah to everything.
The overall statement
The Arabic language of the Qur'aan which is a detailed explanation of the Book (al-kitaab) consists of an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif; 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters, which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa? (Y); and two important diphthongs ay and aw. From here the entire structure of the language is build upon a well designed arrangement.Here is the whole Arabic Alphabet (consonants only). Just have a look at it. In the next post I will present thirteen letters that we shall examine more closely.
Remember to read from right to left.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png
To be continued inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed.)
Imagine for now that only the following letters exist in the Arabic language. I want to make it easy for understanding The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model (QCM).
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.003.png
Use just the English script for the next assignments! b s l m n
In the next and simplified chart you will see only the eXes (x) and the ays (a). Is that correct?
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod1.3.png
If I said to you replace all the eXes with the letter L and leave the ays then what will you read?
(1)- LaaLa
(2)- LaLLa
(3)- LaLaa
(4)- LaLaLa
(5)- LaLLaLaLet us have a look.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod1.3L.png
If I replaced each X with its own value b s m l then what will be read? I will leave you with that one. Remember first x on top = b, second = s, third = m, and forth = l. All eXes below will correspond with the letter place above.
Fill in your answers as we did above with the L
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(4)-
(5)-looking forward to your answer inshaa ALLAAH.
+salaam
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After the Originator of the creation had set in motion the evolution of intelligent life (human beings) on Earth over a long period of time, He created by direct creation another human being called Adam which simply means Man ('insaan) about 6000 years ago.
Salam Brother ,
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603845.0
Link above is some of my thoughts posted months ago , I get to the same conclusion that Adam was not the first "Mankind" in the earth but maybe with different analysis , the subject still need more analysis
Appologies for being off topic
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Salam Brother ,
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603845.0
Link above is some of my thoughts posted months ago , I get to the same conclusion that Adam was not the first "Mankind" in the earth but maybe with different analysis , the subject still need more analysis
Appologies for being off topic
+salaam brother Alkitab
Excellent article. I am amazed at how much our conclusions are the same on so many points so far. I think it should be 90% +. Your username is not Alkitab for nothing in my opinion.
+salaam
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+salaam brother Alkitab
Excellent article. I am amazed at how much our conclusions are the same on so many points so far. I think it should be 90% +. Your username is not Alkitab for nothing in my opinion.
+salaam
Salam ,
May Allah bring us all ( members ) to the one true comprehension in all debated topics and one way of conduct and avoid us confusion , enmity and hatred
I am about to suggest a new rule when debating may the moderators and administrators take it in consideration .