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    muslims
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    Why the matrix?

    The power of leverage.. opt and opm.

    Sponsor two friends..

    1. Obedience (Qur'an Study Group -> solely for listing and observing the "DO NOT" prohibition)

    2. Works toward unity or promoting peace and harmony in...

    -> Family

    -> Friends

    -> Customers & Employees (Your Business) or Co-workers -> Treat them as your family.
    (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for success</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a&gt

    • this forum or any other platform or NGO could exist as monitoring to training center etc.

    • Strictly to promote unity, peace and harmony. Must not involve politics and religious agenda etc.

    http//s23.postimg.org/6w09q8z63/deenmlm.png

    bilateral matrix, prostrate to Allah and Adam (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">descendants</a&gt...

    and

    How Allah will multiplies His reward for your effort, time and money spend on your family, friends and customers etc.. to promote unity, peace, harmony, and supporting them emotionally, psychologically, financially, socially and etc.

    The example of those who spend their wealth
    in the way of Allah
    is like a seed <- you
    which grows seven spikes <- the above image, 7 persons - first group
    in each spike is a hundred grains <- 100 persons straight below you
    And Allah multiplies for whom He wills
    And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
    (<a href="http//quran.com/2/261">2261</a&gt

    100 grains

    How many persons to monitor at level 50?

    100 persons!

    Steps - "We Are Family"

    1. You -> benefiting your family, friends and your customers/employees/co-workers -> as your family!
      (regardless of religion, caste, race, socio-economic background etc .. including non-human - jinn)

    2. 7 persons -> 2 (your team) + 5 (sponsor your member to build their team, exemplary leadership)

    3. help 100 persons straight below you (to strengthen your foundation)

    4. spread... "..Allah multiplies for whom He wills.."

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      For you is your deen
      (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong)
      and
      For me is my deen
      (Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit&quot
      (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

      http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

      Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

      http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

      Now, just a philosophical statement... as to the meaning of solat

      http//s11.postimg.org/hq4ht9ic3/humanunity.png
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      Jihad Salat

      And those who believe in Allah and His Messengers
      they are the Siddiqun
      and the martyrs (syahid) with their Lord
      they shall have their reward and their light
      But those who disbelieve
      and deny Our Ayat (disobedience)
      they shall be the dwellers of the blazing Fire
      (<a href="http//quran.com/57/19">5719</a&gt

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        +salaam brother muslims

        All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

        +salaam
        al-amiyr

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          +salaam brother muslims

          All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

          +salaam
          al-amiyr

          +salaam brother al-amiyr

          Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

          +salaam
          muslims

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            +salaam brother al-amiyr

            Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

            +salaam
            muslims

            +salaam+ brother muslims

            As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

            +salaam
            al-amiyr

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              +salaam+ brother muslims

              As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

              +salaam
              al-amiyr

              +salaam+ brother al-amiyr

              There is nothing wrong with to deny good or bad. It is also "Justly balanced!", for each of us and all living creatures. It doesn't matter which side we are today. However, we just need to let Allah control our lives and enjoy our rides.

              +salaam
              muslims

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                Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

                DIN?this word has been used in various contexts, among them being ascendancy, sovereignty, management, conduct of affairs, ruling power, mastership, ownership, exercise of power, code of law, constitution, law of requital, an order. The Quran has described Islam as Ad-Din, which is generally translated as religion. However, in the light of the above meanings, it should be clear that this is not only incorrect, but distorts and negates the very meaning of din. Islam is not a religion (madhab), and it has never been described as one in the Quran. Islam is a way of life, a system, a code of law. In the external universe Islam signifies the Divine Order that governs life and the movement of the entire universe. The whole purpose of the Quran is to establish a universal order based on the Divinely ordained values of life. This is ad-din; <a href="http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                Say, "O disbelievers,

                I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
                Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

                Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
                Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

                For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element.
                and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
                (109)

                http//s13.postimg.org/6hprb216f/religionelement.png

                Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
                nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                are those
                who followed him
                and this Prophet
                and those who believe
                and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                (367-6

                And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
                it will NEVER be accepted of him
                and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                (385)

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                  Comparison

                  A comparative study of religion or madhhab, and din, should help us understand the vital and fundamental characteristics of each and the differences between the two

                  1. Madhhab is merely some sort of subjective experience and is concerned only with the so-called private relationship between God and man.

                  Din is an objective reality and a system of collective life.

                  1. Every follower of a madhhab is satisfied that he has established a communion with the Almighty, and the objective of each individual is his own salvation.

                  The aim of din on the other hand is the welfare and progress of all mankind, and the character and constitution of a society indicates whether or not it is founded upon the Divine Law.

                  1. Madhhab does not afford us any objective. criterion by which we could determine whether or not our actions are producing the desired results.

                  In a social order governed by din, the development of a collective and harmonious life correctly indicates whether or not the people are pursuing the right course.

                  1. Madhhab is hostile to scientific investigation and is an adversary of reason, so that it could flourish unhampered with the aid of a blind faith.

                  Din helps in the development of human reason and knowledge, allows full freedom to accept or reject on the basis of reason and arguments, and encourages investigation and discovery of all the natural phenomena to illumine the path of human life and its advancement in the light of the Permanent Values.

                  1. Madhhab follows the susceptibilities and prejudices of men and pampers them.

                  Din seeks to lead men to a path of life that is in harmony with the realities of life.

                  1. In every age, therefore, madhhab sets up new idols and mumbo-jumbos in order to keep the people's attention away from the real problems of life.

                  But din is rational and radical it breaks all idols, old and new, and is never variable in its principles.

                  1. Madhhab induces a perpetual sense of fear in the minds of men and seeks to frighten them into conformity;

                  While din treats fear as a form of polytheism and seeks to make men courageous, daring and self-reliant.

                  1. Madhhab prompts men to bow before every seat of authority and prestige, religious as well as temporal.

                  Din encourages man to walk about with his head erect, and attain self-confidence.

                  1. Madhhab induces man to flee from struggle of life.

                  But din calls upon him to face the realities of life squarely, whatever the hazards.

                  1. Madhhab treats the world of matter with contempt and calls upon man to renounce it. It promises paradise only in the Hereafter as a reward for the renunciation of the material world.

                  Din, on the other hand, enjoins the conquest of matter and leads man to immeasurable heights of attainment. It exhorts him to seek well-being and happiness in this world as well as felicity in the life Hereafter.

                  1. Madhhab encourages belief in fatalism, and this tends to dissuade man from active life and self-development.

                  Din gives man power to challenge fate, and provides energy for a life of activity and self-development.

                  1. Madhhab seeks to comfort the weak, the helpless and the oppressed with the belief that the affairs of this world are governed by the Will of God and that its acceptance and resignation helps to endear them to God. This sort of teaching naturally tends to morbidity, and emboldens their religious leaders who profess to interpret the Will of God, so that they indulge in their misdeeds with perfect impunity and persuade the adherents to a complete and quiet submission.

                  Din, on the other hand, raises the banner of revolt against all forms of tyranny and exploitation. It calls upon the weak and the oppressed to follow the Divine Laws and thereby seek to establish a social order in which all tyrants and oppressors will be forced to accept the dictates of right and justice. In this social order, there is no place for dictators, capitalists or priests. They are all enemies of din.

                  1. Madhhab enjoins religious meditation in the name of worship and thus induces self-deception.

                  Din exhorts men to assert themselves and struggle perpetually for the establishment of the Divine Social Order, and its betterment when attained. Worship in din really means obedience to the Laws of God.

                  1. Madhhab frowns and sneers at all things of art and beauty.

                  Din defies those who forbid the enjoyment of the good and beautiful things of life which God has created for the enjoyment of man.

                  1. Madhhab denounces everything new and declares all innovation as sin.

                  Din holds that the needs and demands of human life keep changing with the change in the conditions of life; change and innovation are, therefore, demanded by life itself. Only the Divine Laws are immutable.

                  It should now be easy for us to see the fundamental difference between din and madhhab. Islam means saying "Yes" to life; while the response of religion is "No"!

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                    +salaam brother al-amiyr

                    Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

                    +salaam
                    muslims

                    Dear brother, muslims.

                    May peace be upon you.

                    I would like to kindly ask you, from a Quranic perspective, what do you believe the word 'salat' to mean?

                    You don't have to explain in details, just put your response in a simple sentence.

                    Peace to you )

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                      muslims
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                      Dear brother, muslims.

                      May peace be upon you.

                      I would like to kindly ask you, from a Quranic perspective, what do you believe the word 'salat' to mean?

                      You don't have to explain in details, just put your response in a simple sentence.

                      Peace to you )

                      Dear brother, Scribbler.

                      This is salat.

                      Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

                      May peace be upon you. pr

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                        Dear brother, Scribbler.

                        This is salat.

                        May peace be upon you. pr

                        Peace be with you, brother.

                        Thank you for your kind reply.

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                          To every nation We appointed acts of devotion which they observe (5101)

                          Meaning of Salat for each element.

                          http//s24.postimg.org/x33e8gyqd/salat.png

                          and basically, the objectives of Ibada are as follows

                          Fast "..decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you
                          that you may become righteous.." (2183)
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                          Sadaqah "..Take from their wealth a charity by which you purify them
                          and cause them increase.." (9103)
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                          Hajj (or else) "..That they may witness benefits for themselves
                          and mention the name of Allah.." (222
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                          Salat "..prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing.." (2945)
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                          Shahada Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen

                          comparison

                          The Formula

                          It is He who has sent among the unlettered
                          a Messenger from themselves

                          1. reciting to them His verses and
                          2. purifying them and
                          3. teaching them the Book
                          4. and wisdom
                            although they were before in clear error
                            (<a href="http//quran.com/62/2">622</a&gt

                          Primary importance

                          Command War zone Objectives (primary importance)
                          (illusion) (reality)
                          an acts of -> How -> - become righteous (ourselves)
                          devotion to - to purify ourselves
                          perform? - witness benefits in ourselves
                          etc. - prohibits immorality/wrongdoing in ourselves

                          • understanding of reality (ourselves)

                          Have we achieved the objectives?

                          If not, we are still not performing those "Ibada".

                          It is, in fact, not an Ibada (iman and amal, burden of proof).

                          For example

                          We will know what is the reality, universe and what is Allah. We are able to return our Shahada, and not as hypocrites; ie. those who will not benefit from the Shahada and no matter how many times he may have made that statement during his life.

                          Say Shall We inform you of the greatest losers in (their) deeds?

                          (These are) they whose labor
                          is lost in this world's life
                          and they think
                          that they are well versed in skill of the work of hands

                          These are they who disbelieve
                          in the communications of their Lord and His meeting
                          so their deeds become null
                          and therefore We will not set up a balance for them
                          on the day of resurrection.

                          Thus it is that their recompense is hell

                          because they disbelieved
                          and held My communications
                          and My messengers
                          in mockery
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/18/103-106">18103-106</a&gt

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                            He said, "Indeed, with me you will never be able to have patience
                            and how can you have patience for what you do not encompass in knowledge?
                            (1867-68)

                            What does the Qur'an teach?

                            Rule Justly Balanced Exception
                            (Right) (When being wrong is right)

                            Human (?) cause I know that Successor
                            corruption which you (Adam & Angels)
                            (230) do not know (230)

                            Unlawful sexual Marriage Lawful sexual
                            intercourse intercourse
                            (1732) (1732)

                            Cannot kill War/ Can kill
                            a person Defense a person
                            (532) (22.39)

                            Forbidden to eat Emergency Can eat
                            swine flesh swine flesh
                            (2173) (2173)

                            One wife Orphan Multiple wives
                            (3350) (43)

                            Follow strictly Signs/ Use reasoning
                            Allah's words Awwaliyah (822)

                            Cannot commit Avoid Can commit
                            mischief Mudharat mischief
                            (1867-82)

                            Cannot commit Just Can commit
                            evil evil
                            (16125)

                            Unity Wrongdoing No unity
                            (4213) (3030-32)

                            and so on...

                            From the above, we can see that the Qur'an teaches us how to balance and achieve justice ..

                            It is the "Ihdina assirata almustaqeem" (16); "..and you become three kinds.." (567)

                            Why it is about balance and just?

                            Because ...

                            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the fire element. -> unjust to the air, water and earth.
                            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the air element. -> unjust to the fire, water and earth.
                            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the water element. -> unjust to the fire, air and earth.
                            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the earth element. -> unjust to the fire, air and water.
                            We cannot change to what is right (just) in all these elements.
                            We cannot change what is wrong (unjust) in all these elements.

                            However, we can balance the major and minor "right (just)" in all these elements.
                            ie. right 1 + right 2 + right 3 + right 4 and so on...

                            For example

                            The degree of what is right.

                            25% wrong (unjust) -> means 75% right (just)
                            50% wrong (unjust) -> means 50% right (just)
                            75% wrong (unjust) -> means 25% right (just)
                            100% wrong (unjust) -> means 0% right (just)

                            http//s11.postimg.org/hq4ht9ic3/humanunity.png

                            Can 0% or less than 50% wrong (unjust) be achieved?

                            Nope, because all these elements exist in all living creatures.

                            It is Sunnatullah, and Allah is The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

                            Therefore, our real issue in life is why human are fighting each other and standing for what is right or wrong? (refer here)

                            Our real issue in life is why not stand up for human unity, based on what is just and balance?

                            http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

                            To this then go on inviting <-- Task for Muslims
                            and go on steadfastly <- refer to the above sponsorship program - Duty Awareness
                            on the right way
                            as you are commanded
                            and do not follow their low desires <- don't argue with them, focus on unity, peace and harmony
                            and say What is a Mushrikeen? (3030-32)

                            I believe in what Allah has revealed of the Book
                            and I am commanded to do justice between you <-- role as Mediators and Conciliators
                            Allah is our Lord and your Lord vs. Provoker & create more divisions
                            we shall have our deeds
                            and you shall have your deeds
                            no plea need there be (now) between us and you <- no argument! ignore right/wrong &
                            Allah will gather us together focus on unity, peace and harmony
                            and to Him is the return

                            (<a href="http//quran.com/42/10-16">4210-16</a&gt

                            ..

                            A Muslim must now learn how to become Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator. There is no religion and it is not about to spread Islam, since Islam is not a religion. It is about to spread peace, harmony and unity in the society. It's about benefiting humanity, kindness to His creation and giving to relatives. This is how people from different backgrounds and traditions are able to accept Islam by our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Unconditional acceptance (respect) of world religious practices and balancing what is just to every living creatures. This is "Din of Islam".

                            Follow this rule....

                            O mankind, indeed We have created you
                            from male and female <- differences - What we can learn from husband & wife relationship?
                            and made you peoples How they can build family and unite under one roof?
                            and tribes How they balance their differences? Protect each other.
                            What about different species of animals? How they live?
                            that you may know one another <- unite and learn how to balance our life from others

                            Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                            is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced
                            Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
                            (4913)

                            http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

                            • Compare with how other religions performing their prayers. Which element?

                            Not this rule...

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                            http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

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                              Peace,
                              Just wondered, where do all the graphics and illustrations come from?

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                                Peace,
                                Just wondered, where do all the graphics and illustrations come from?

                                Salam Zulf

                                Self edit image, for easy understanding.

                                Peace.

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                                  Other forms of Shirk

                                  The Flow of Ideas

                                  Basically, Shirk relates to "ideas" that are inconsistent and against the ideas in the Qur'an. It is the "gods and ulamas inside ourselves" that count. Nothing can harm our relationship with Allah if we are not accepting these inconsistent "ideas" (<a href="http//quran.com/5/105">5105</a&gt.

                                  Consequence Self Acceptance Human Ideas Self Action (Conduct)
                                  vs. Qur'an Ideas

                                  No Shirk <- Internal Self <- Consistent <- Prophet Sulaiman build statues
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas for communication (<a href="http//quran.com/34/10-16">3410-16</a&gt

                                  Shirk <- Internal Self <- Inconsistent <- Worship Stone as God
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas

                                  Shirk <- Internal Self <- Inconsistent <- Worship Fire as God
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas

                                  Shirk <- Internal Self <- Inconsistent <- Worship Shiva as God
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas

                                  Shirk <- Internal Self <- Inconsistent <- Worship Jesus as God
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas

                                  Shirk <- Internal Self <- Inconsistent <- Follow the Ulama (Arbab)
                                  (Acceptance) Ideas (<a href="http//quran.com/3/150">3150</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/3/64">364</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/17/56-57">1756-57</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/23/47">2347</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/40/29">4029</a&gt
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                                  Gods & Ulamas (<a href="http//quran.com/45/23">4523</a&gt
                                  (Personal Adviser)
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                                  Level for Determination
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                                  "..Allah has not put for any man two hearts inside his body.." (<a href="http//quran.com/33/4">334</a&gt
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                                  Heart

                                  Therefore, the gods and ulamas are within ourselves. It is the "ideas" that are inconsistent with the Qur'anic Ideas.

                                  Therefore our primary question in life is how far we are able to control the ideas within ourselves?

                                  For the sake of testing ourselves and to realize the gods and ulamas inside ourselves, try to stop eating, drinking and sleeping for 3 straight days (72 hours). Are we able to achieve this target or we are still hypocrites? This is not suggested by the Qur'an, and only a simple self-test to prove the existence of gods and ulamas inside ourselves. A simple test to realize the flow of ideas within ourselves and how far we are able to control these ideas.

                                  Do the people think
                                  that they will be left to say,
                                  "We believe"
                                  and they will not be tried?

                                  But We have certainly tried those before them
                                  and Allah will surely make evident
                                  those who are truthful
                                  and He will surely make evident
                                  the liars

                                  Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                                  Evil is what they judge
                                  (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                                  "...Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior..." (334)

                                  It may become a Shirk when we assign the following attributes to any other than Allah.

                                  Allah Names/Attributes Shirk? (Internal Self / Acceptance)

                                  1. Allah (The Greatest Name) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  2. Ar-Rahman (The All-Compassionate) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  3. Ar-Rahim (The All-Merciful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  4. Al-Malik (The Absolute Ruler) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  5. Al-Quddus (The Pure One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  6. As-Salam (The Source of Peace) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  7. Al-Mu'min (The Inspirer of Faith) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  8. Al-Muhaymin (The Guardian) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  9. Al-Aziz (The Victorious) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  10. Al-Jabbar (The Compeller) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  11. Al-Mutakabbir (The Greatest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  12. Al-Khaliq (The Creator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  13. Al-Bari' (The Maker of Order) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  14. Al-Musawwir (The Shaper of Beauty) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  15. Al-Ghaffar (The Forgiving) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  16. Al-Qahhar (The Subduer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  17. Al-Wahhab (The Giver of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  18. Ar-Razzaq (The Sustainer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  19. Al-Fattah (The Opener) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  20. Al-`Alim (The Knower of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  21. Al-Qabid (The Constrictor) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  22. Al-Basit (The Reliever) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  23. Al-Khafid (The Abaser) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  24. Ar-Rafi (The Exalter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  25. Al-Mu'izz (The Bestower of Honors) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  26. Al-Mudhill (The Humiliator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  27. As-Sami (The Hearer of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  28. Al-Basir (The Seer of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  29. Al-Hakam (The Judge) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  30. Al-`Adl (The Just) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  31. Al-Latif (The Subtle One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  32. Al-Khabir (The All-Aware) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  33. Al-Halim (The Forbearing) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  34. Al-Azim (The Magnificent) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  35. Al-Ghafur (Forgiver & Hider of Faults) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  36. Ash-Shakur (Rewarder of Thankfulness) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  37. Al-Ali (The Highest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  38. Al-Kabir (The Greatest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  39. Al-Hafiz (The Preserver) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  40. Al-Muqit (The Nourisher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  41. Al-Hasib (The Accounter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  42. Al-Jalil (The Mighty) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  43. Al-Karim (The Generous) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  44. Ar-Raqib (The Watchful One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  45. Al-Mujib (The Responder to Prayer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  46. Al-Wasi (The All-Comprehending) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  47. Al-Hakim (The Perfectly Wise) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  48. Al-Wadud (The Loving One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  49. Al-Majid (The Majestic One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  50. Al-Ba'ith (The Resurrector) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  51. Ash-Shahid (The Witness) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  52. Al-Haqq (The Truth) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  53. Al-Wakil (The Trustee) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  54. Al-Qawiyy (The Possessor of All Strength) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  55. Al-Matin (The Forceful One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  56. Al-Waliyy (The Governor) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  57. Al-Hamid (The Praised One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  58. Al-Muhsi (The Appraiser) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  59. Al-Mubdi' (The Originator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  60. Al-Mu'id (The Restorer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  61. Al-Muhyi (The Giver of Life) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  62. Al-Mumit (The Taker of Life) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  63. Al-Hayy (The Ever Living One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  64. Al-Qayyum (The Self-Existing One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  65. Al-Wajid (The Finder) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  66. Al-Majid (The Glorious) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  67. Al-Wahid (The One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  68. As-Samad (The Satisfier of All Needs) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  69. Al-Qadir (The All Powerful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  70. Al-Muqtadir (The Creator of All Power) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  71. Al-Muqaddim (The Expediter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  72. Al-Mu'akhkhir (The Delayer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  73. Al-Awwal (The First) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  74. Al-Akhir (The Last) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  75. Az-Zahir (The Manifest One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  76. Al-Batin (The Hidden One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  77. Al-Wali (The Protecting Friend) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  78. Al-Muta'ali (The Supreme One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  79. Al-Barr (The Doer of Good) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  80. At-Tawwab (The Guide to Repentance) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  81. Al-Muntaqim (The Avenger) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  82. Al-'Afuww (The Forgiver) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  83. Ar-Ra'uf (The Clement) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  84. Malik-al-Mulk (The Owner of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  85. Dhu-al-Jalal wa-al-Ikram Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    (Lord of Majesty & Bounty)
                                  86. Al-Muqsit (The Equitable One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  87. Al-Jami' (The Gatherer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  88. Al-Ghani (The Rich One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  89. Al-Mughni (The Enricher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  90. Al-Mani' (The Preventer of Harm) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  91. Ad-Darr (The Creator of The Harmful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  92. An-Nafi' (The Creator of Good) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  93. An-Nur (The Light) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  94. Al-Hadi (The Guide) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  95. Al-Badi (The Originator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  96. Al-Baqi (The Everlasting One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  97. Al-Warith (The Inheritor of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  98. Ar-Rashid (The Righteous Teacher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                  99. As-Sabur (The Patient One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?

                                  Primary consequences....

                                  Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                                  In a protected Book <- if Allah says it is protected, who can unlock its true understanding?
                                  None can grasp it
                                  except those purified (from Shirk) <- the key to understand the true meaning of the Qur'an
                                  (5677-79)

                                  Level of understanding the Qur'an - on the standard of justly balanced
                                  Shirk (%) |<-- 100--> 90 --> 80 --> 70 --> 60 --> 50 --> 40 --> 30 --> 20 --> 10 -->| 0%
                                  Qur'an (%) |<-- 0 --> 10 --> 20 --> 30 --> 40 --> 50 --> 60 --> 70 --> 80 --> 90 -->| 100%

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                                    Other forms of Shirk

                                    "...Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior..." (334)

                                    It may become a Shirk when we assign the following attributes to any other than Allah.

                                    Allah Names/Attributes Shirk? (Internal Self / Acceptance)

                                    1. Allah (The Greatest Name) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    2. Ar-Rahman (The All-Compassionate) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    3. Ar-Rahim (The All-Merciful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    4. Al-Malik (The Absolute Ruler) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    5. Al-Quddus (The Pure One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    6. As-Salam (The Source of Peace) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    7. Al-Mu'min (The Inspirer of Faith) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    8. Al-Muhaymin (The Guardian) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    9. Al-Aziz (The Victorious) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    10. Al-Jabbar (The Compeller) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    11. Al-Mutakabbir (The Greatest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    12. Al-Khaliq (The Creator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    13. Al-Bari' (The Maker of Order) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    14. Al-Musawwir (The Shaper of Beauty) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    15. Al-Ghaffar (The Forgiving) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    16. Al-Qahhar (The Subduer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    17. Al-Wahhab (The Giver of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    18. Ar-Razzaq (The Sustainer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    19. Al-Fattah (The Opener) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    20. Al-`Alim (The Knower of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    21. Al-Qabid (The Constrictor) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    22. Al-Basit (The Reliever) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    23. Al-Khafid (The Abaser) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    24. Ar-Rafi (The Exalter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    25. Al-Mu'izz (The Bestower of Honors) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    26. Al-Mudhill (The Humiliator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    27. As-Sami (The Hearer of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    28. Al-Basir (The Seer of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    29. Al-Hakam (The Judge) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    30. Al-`Adl (The Just) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    31. Al-Latif (The Subtle One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    32. Al-Khabir (The All-Aware) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    33. Al-Halim (The Forbearing) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    34. Al-Azim (The Magnificent) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    35. Al-Ghafur (Forgiver & Hider of Faults) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    36. Ash-Shakur (Rewarder of Thankfulness) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    37. Al-Ali (The Highest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    38. Al-Kabir (The Greatest) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    39. Al-Hafiz (The Preserver) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    40. Al-Muqit (The Nourisher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    41. Al-Hasib (The Accounter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    42. Al-Jalil (The Mighty) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    43. Al-Karim (The Generous) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    44. Ar-Raqib (The Watchful One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    45. Al-Mujib (The Responder to Prayer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    46. Al-Wasi (The All-Comprehending) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    47. Al-Hakim (The Perfectly Wise) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    48. Al-Wadud (The Loving One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    49. Al-Majid (The Majestic One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    50. Al-Ba'ith (The Resurrector) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    51. Ash-Shahid (The Witness) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    52. Al-Haqq (The Truth) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    53. Al-Wakil (The Trustee) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    54. Al-Qawiyy (The Possessor of All Strength) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    55. Al-Matin (The Forceful One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    56. Al-Waliyy (The Governor) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    57. Al-Hamid (The Praised One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    58. Al-Muhsi (The Appraiser) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    59. Al-Mubdi' (The Originator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    60. Al-Mu'id (The Restorer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    61. Al-Muhyi (The Giver of Life) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    62. Al-Mumit (The Taker of Life) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    63. Al-Hayy (The Ever Living One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    64. Al-Qayyum (The Self-Existing One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    65. Al-Wajid (The Finder) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    66. Al-Majid (The Glorious) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    67. Al-Wahid (The One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    68. As-Samad (The Satisfier of All Needs) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    69. Al-Qadir (The All Powerful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    70. Al-Muqtadir (The Creator of All Power) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    71. Al-Muqaddim (The Expediter) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    72. Al-Mu'akhkhir (The Delayer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    73. Al-Awwal (The First) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    74. Al-Akhir (The Last) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    75. Az-Zahir (The Manifest One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    76. Al-Batin (The Hidden One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    77. Al-Wali (The Protecting Friend) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    78. Al-Muta'ali (The Supreme One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    79. Al-Barr (The Doer of Good) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    80. At-Tawwab (The Guide to Repentance) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    81. Al-Muntaqim (The Avenger) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    82. Al-'Afuww (The Forgiver) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    83. Ar-Ra'uf (The Clement) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    84. Malik-al-Mulk (The Owner of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    85. Dhu-al-Jalal wa-al-Ikram Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                      (Lord of Majesty & Bounty)
                                    86. Al-Muqsit (The Equitable One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    87. Al-Jami' (The Gatherer) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    88. Al-Ghani (The Rich One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    89. Al-Mughni (The Enricher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    90. Al-Mani' (The Preventer of Harm) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    91. Ad-Darr (The Creator of The Harmful) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    92. An-Nafi' (The Creator of Good) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    93. An-Nur (The Light) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    94. Al-Hadi (The Guide) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    95. Al-Badi (The Originator) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    96. Al-Baqi (The Everlasting One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    97. Al-Warith (The Inheritor of All) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    98. Ar-Rashid (The Righteous Teacher) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?
                                    99. As-Sabur (The Patient One) Assign to human/other living creatures/objects?

                                    Primary consequences....

                                    Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                                    In a protected Book <- if Allah says it is protected, who can unlock its true understanding?
                                    None can grasp it
                                    except those purified (from Shirk) <- the key to understand the true meaning of the Qur'an
                                    (5677-79)

                                    And it is not the word of a poet
                                    little do you believe
                                    Nor the word of a soothsayer
                                    little do you remember
                                    a revelation from the Lord of the worlds
                                    (6941-43)

                                    Peace Brother,

                                    Allah's Names by Just 99 Names ?. I think you are referring Hadith

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                                      Peace Brother,

                                      Allah's Names by Just 99 Names ?. I think you are referring Hadith

                                      Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                                      Yes brother, for easy understanding and this thread is not related to Asma Ul Husna. You can open a new thread to discuss in depth about the names/attributes of Allah.

                                      As for this thread, I'm referring to what is generally accepted by Muslim.

                                      It is translated as The Best Identifiers ( 208 )

                                      What is "Identifiers"?

                                      one that identifies

                                      Noun 1. identifier - a symbol that establishes the identity of the one bearing it
                                      symbol - an arbitrary sign (written or printed) that has acquired
                                      a conventional significance

                                      Therefore, must Allah names/attributes be specific?

                                      Not necessarily be specific names/attributes, and it is sufficient for us to understand Allah's attributes.

                                      Further, there is nothing wrong to refer to a hadith on "the standard of justly balanced" (or refer to other religious books, and so as other books that relates to science, mathematics, philosophy, economy etc.), unless to those who belong to sects or religious dogma, whatever their names are (label/illusion).

                                      Peace brother.

                                      p/s If you don't mind.. I would like to ask "Whether waiting/hoping for a Messenger or savior to come and save us is a Shirk?" What is your opinion on the matter?

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                                        hadith = shirk hypno

                                        It's obvious but many fail to see it! nope

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                                          hadith = shirk hypno

                                          It's obvious but many fail to see it! nope

                                          Salam,

                                          For religious people.. yes, but I am not religious people, sorry.

                                          Just and balance has no religion and it is the Deen of Islam.

                                          Further, there is nothing wrong to refer to a hadith on "the standard of justly balanced" (or refer to other religious books, and so as other books that relates to science, mathematics, philosophy, economy etc.), unless to those who belong to sects or religious dogma, whatever their names are (label/illusion).

                                          Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
                                          nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                          but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                                          a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                                          and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                                          Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                                          are those
                                          who followed him
                                          and this Prophet
                                          and those who believe
                                          and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                                          (367-6

                                          I'm from Malaysia and practicing all faiths that are glorifying just and balance, whether it is from the hadith, other sects or any other religions. Islam rejects the idea of religion and the only way to reject all religions is to accept all religions. Peace!! )

                                          peace brother.

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