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Al-Amiyr's claims and statements - let's examine

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    al-amiyr
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    Vowels? As far as I know vowels are called Harakat.

    Anyway I just challenged you to show the book + the contents about commandment to stone people , not teach. Anyway if you don't want and just only want to teach your knowledge about the book, okay fine.

    Let's stop this chatter.

    This is part of showing you the Book (al-kitaab).

    Correct! Vowels are called harakaat! Do you know why?

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      diamantinehoneybunch
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      This is part of showing you the Book (al-kitaab).

      Correct! Vowels are called harakaat! Do you know why?

      No I don't.

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        al-amiyr
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        No I don't.

        That is why you must learn the Book (al-kitaab). It will show you all this knowledge with all the proofs without any doubt. I will come to this later!

        Do you know the Arabic alphabet?

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          diamantinehoneybunch
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          That is why you must learn the Book (al-kitaab). It will show you all this knowledge with all the proofs without any doubt. I will come to this later!

          Do you know the Arabic alphabet?

          Yes.

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            al-amiyr
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            Yes.

            Great!


            The 19th last chapter of the Qur'aan which contains the first five revealed verses reads at the beginning as follows

            iqra' bismi rabbikalladhiy khalaqa
            Read/Recite! In the name of thy Lord who created.

            Here is the whole Arabic Alphabet (consonants only). Just have a look at it. In the next post I will present thirteen letters that we shall examine more closely.

            Remember to read from right to left.

            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

            Do you have any disagreement with the above?

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              diamantinehoneybunch
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              Peace,

              Thanks.

              No disagreement.

              Anyway if you have already posted posts that are almost similar to what you are going to post to me, don't need to re-type or re-post them again. Just post the links to the posts that you have created so that you won't get tired for re-typing them again.

              Have a nice day! )

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                al-amiyr
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                Peace,

                Thanks.

                No disagreement.

                Anyway if you have already posted posts that are almost similar to what you are going to post to me, don't need to re-type or re-post them again. Just post the links to the posts that you have created so that you won't get tired for re-typing them again.

                Have a nice day!

                I do not mind typing every over for a young lady who is ready to create a diamantinehoneybunch revolution. As long as she equips herself with knowledge to conquer the world..

                http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

                What is your opinion? Do you think ALLAAH himself were part of the design and naming of the letters of the Qur'aan or do you think that they are the work of man?

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                  diamantinehoneybunch
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                  I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

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                    al-amiyr
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                    I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

                    You did not answer the question correctly. I will ask again,"

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

                    What is your opinion? Do you think ALLAAH himself were part of the design and naming of the letters of the Qur'aan or do you think that they are the work of man?

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Salaam,

                      Arabic as a language with its symbols is not perfect enough to originate from God. Why would later students of the scripture add extra markers to the script if it was perfect as it is?

                      Face it. Good simply chose this language because it suited Him and was relevant at the time.

                      God bless you

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                        huruf
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                        I think Arabic, as prototype of semitic languages is an artificial language. As to whether God or manmade, everything is God made one way or another.

                        Salaam

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                          Man_of_Faith
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                          Salaam,

                          For whatever al-amiyr claims or states I can grasp very little of what he is trying to convey. And if this specific al-kitab is the Message, which has been there all along, I never got an answer to.

                          God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                          And for the Arabic language I am sure it was developed by humans and not God. Certainly everything goes through God, but it is not like Arabic is a flawless language. God can in the best way possible utilize Arabic when He inspired the Quran to Muhammad, but it was a specifically chosen language of revelation, then.

                          There are riddles in Quran such as the signatures, but they are part of a phenomenon where one person will probably crack its code at some point as God would not add meaningless/useless letters without any future use.

                          God bless you

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                            sword_of_tashayyu
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                            Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                            So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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                              al-amiyr
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                              Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                              So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

                              Welcome back Mr tashayyu! I see you returned with your typical hit and run tactics. See that you are fearful of taking up the challenge I will leave you to enjoy the sun.

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                                GODsubmitter
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                                Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                                So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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                                  huruf
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                                  for the purpose of the revelation of the qur'an Arabic is indeed perfect.

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                                    al-amiyr
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                                    Quote from sword of tashayyu on Today at 020828 am

                                    Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                                    So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

                                    So according to you I am a mad mullah. Never forget that! A case of the Rashaadians in harmony with the RaafiDians.

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                                      foralgerian
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                                      Everyone knows, that questions won't be answered, since this is not part of the mission.
                                      Him as well as many of those who are promoting Hadith.
                                      Everything seems to revolve around the deceptive value of mastering the Arabic language as being the ultimate requirement for understanding God message that was supposed to be universal!

                                      You know as much as I do that, it is simply a waste of time trying to argue with them... There is no such a thing as debate, because they comme with the idea , that they know, but you don't .

                                      I like reading many posters here, and I know that there are many shills who are on a specific mission, and their joy is when they become the main topic..
                                      I strongly believe that ignoring them is the best thing anyone can do..

                                      Peace

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                                        al-amiyr
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                                        Everyone knows, that questions won't be answered, since this is not part of the mission.
                                        Him as well as many of those who are promoting Hadith.
                                        Everything seems to revolve around the deceptive value of mastering the Arabic language as being the ultimate requirement for understanding God message that was supposed to be universal!

                                        You know as much as I do that, it is simply a waste of time trying to argue with them... There is no such a thing as debate, because they comme with the idea , that they know, but you don't .

                                        I like reading many posters here, and I know that there are many shills who are on a specific mission, and their joy is when they become the main topic..
                                        I strongly believe that ignoring them is the best thing anyone can do..

                                        Peace

                                        And this is how you maintain yourself relevant by talking nonsense. Everything I have and am demonstrating clearly. It is you who are living in a world of oblivion. You can choose to remain and stay there but why hinder others. Maybe you think that they do not have brains and therefore cannot make their own decisions.

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                                          mmkhan
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                                          God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                                          Salaam brother,

                                          As per 2185, alQuraan is guidance for alNaas .

                                          May Allah bless you pr
                                          mmKhan

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