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    diamantinehoneybunch
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    I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

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      al-amiyr
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      I don't think alphabets are created by God. They are human inventions.

      You did not answer the question correctly. I will ask again,"

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

      What is your opinion? Do you think ALLAAH himself were part of the design and naming of the letters of the Qur'aan or do you think that they are the work of man?

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        Man_of_Faith
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        Salaam,

        Arabic as a language with its symbols is not perfect enough to originate from God. Why would later students of the scripture add extra markers to the script if it was perfect as it is?

        Face it. Good simply chose this language because it suited Him and was relevant at the time.

        God bless you

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          huruf
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          I think Arabic, as prototype of semitic languages is an artificial language. As to whether God or manmade, everything is God made one way or another.

          Salaam

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Salaam,

            For whatever al-amiyr claims or states I can grasp very little of what he is trying to convey. And if this specific al-kitab is the Message, which has been there all along, I never got an answer to.

            God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

            And for the Arabic language I am sure it was developed by humans and not God. Certainly everything goes through God, but it is not like Arabic is a flawless language. God can in the best way possible utilize Arabic when He inspired the Quran to Muhammad, but it was a specifically chosen language of revelation, then.

            There are riddles in Quran such as the signatures, but they are part of a phenomenon where one person will probably crack its code at some point as God would not add meaningless/useless letters without any future use.

            God bless you

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              sword_of_tashayyu
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              Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

              So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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                al-amiyr
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                Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

                Welcome back Mr tashayyu! I see you returned with your typical hit and run tactics. See that you are fearful of taking up the challenge I will leave you to enjoy the sun.

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                  GODsubmitter
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                  Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                  So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

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                    huruf
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                    for the purpose of the revelation of the qur'an Arabic is indeed perfect.

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                      al-amiyr
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                      Quote from sword of tashayyu on Today at 020828 am

                      Al-Amiyr looks like a mad mullah. Kitab means the Old Testament. You also claim you have Al-Jajr, lol.

                      So Umar ibn Al-Khattab is your idol?

                      So according to you I am a mad mullah. Never forget that! A case of the Rashaadians in harmony with the RaafiDians.

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                        foralgerian
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                        Everyone knows, that questions won't be answered, since this is not part of the mission.
                        Him as well as many of those who are promoting Hadith.
                        Everything seems to revolve around the deceptive value of mastering the Arabic language as being the ultimate requirement for understanding God message that was supposed to be universal!

                        You know as much as I do that, it is simply a waste of time trying to argue with them... There is no such a thing as debate, because they comme with the idea , that they know, but you don't .

                        I like reading many posters here, and I know that there are many shills who are on a specific mission, and their joy is when they become the main topic..
                        I strongly believe that ignoring them is the best thing anyone can do..

                        Peace

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Everyone knows, that questions won't be answered, since this is not part of the mission.
                          Him as well as many of those who are promoting Hadith.
                          Everything seems to revolve around the deceptive value of mastering the Arabic language as being the ultimate requirement for understanding God message that was supposed to be universal!

                          You know as much as I do that, it is simply a waste of time trying to argue with them... There is no such a thing as debate, because they comme with the idea , that they know, but you don't .

                          I like reading many posters here, and I know that there are many shills who are on a specific mission, and their joy is when they become the main topic..
                          I strongly believe that ignoring them is the best thing anyone can do..

                          Peace

                          And this is how you maintain yourself relevant by talking nonsense. Everything I have and am demonstrating clearly. It is you who are living in a world of oblivion. You can choose to remain and stay there but why hinder others. Maybe you think that they do not have brains and therefore cannot make their own decisions.

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                            mmkhan
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                            God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                            Salaam brother,

                            As per 2185, alQuraan is guidance for alNaas .

                            May Allah bless you pr
                            mmKhan

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                              al-amiyr
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                              Salaam,

                              For whatever al-amiyr claims or states I can grasp very little of what he is trying to convey. And if this specific al-kitab is the Message, which has been there all along, I never got an answer to.

                              God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                              God bless you

                              +salaam

                              You said this on more than one occasion before. Have you ever tried to understand? Are you even willing to understand? So if you did not understand what I had said then why have you thrown in so many side remarks against what I had said which is then all unjustified. In the process you might have denied yourself a great and beautiful knowledge.

                              This knowledge is so simple. It is just a willingness to want to learn and know if it is true. I am here to show you personally if you want me to. But are you truly willing. That is the main point that you should have raised here! What do you have to say about that?

                              +salaam

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                                drfazl
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                                +salaam

                                You said this on more than one occasion before. Have you ever tried to understand? Are you even willing to understand?

                                Salaam,

                                God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                                Amiyr,

                                Decoding the riddle 37
                                Allah it is He who sent down the Book in truth.

                                The Truth is that which every one possesses in his RUH, breathed in to the soul by Allah as his first breath that brought his dead body till then into springing life; the ultimate truth is the presence of God Himself nearer than one's life. There is thus no hidden thing even in the ultimate Book itself. And the Truth of any single ayat, or any single word of the ayat divulges its meanings in endless possible ways with reference to the context i.e the combined mental status and physical circumstances of an individual at any given point of time. Quran functions as the soulful guidance to any reader, if only the reader applies every single ayat, contextually and intricately connects it to his life's presenting situation; but unfortunately the whole Muslim world at large takes Quraaan and its ayaaats to faaar behind, by one and a half millenniums. Please correct your ways. Read the open, clear, God Given Book, for the mankind and not the hidden book of jinns.

                                Salam

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                                  newmoon
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                                  Salaam,

                                  God's Message is so easy to understand, so why is al-amiyr's attempts to explain the Message so hard to understand. I feel you have to be a professor to analyze the data.

                                  God bless you

                                  Peace MoF

                                  Just reminds me of

                                  926 And trusts in goodness.

                                  927 We will make for him the easy path.

                                  929 And denies goodness.

                                  9210 We will make for him the difficult path.

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                                    GODsubmitter
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                                    Amiyr,

                                    Decoding the riddle 37
                                    Allah it is He who sent down the Book in truth.

                                    The Truth is that which every one possesses in his RUH, breathed in to the soul by Allah as his first breath that brought his dead body till then into springing life; the ultimate truth is the presence of God Himself nearer than one's life. There is thus no hidden thing even in the ultimate Book itself. And the Truth of any single ayat, or any single word of the ayat divulges its meanings in endless possible ways with reference to the context i.e the combined mental status and physical circumstances of an individual at any given point of time. Quran functions as the soulful guidance to any reader, if only the reader applies every single ayat, contextually and intricately connects it to his life's presenting situation; but unfortunately the whole Muslim world at large takes Quraaan and its ayaaats to faaar behind, by one and a half millenniums. Please correct your ways. Read the open, clear, God Given Book, for the mankind and not the hidden book of jinns.

                                    Salam

                                    This is great!
                                    Truly remarkable post!
                                    Thank you!
                                    God bless you!

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                                      sword_of_tashayyu
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                                      @Amiyr,

                                      I know you are crazy, you claim to possess Al-Jafr, every friend i told to about you, laughed, a sunni with Al-Jafr rotfl

                                      Your problems are eclipsed by the advent of the Quranists, are you on their side or my side?

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                                        huruf
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                                        Amiyr,

                                        Decoding the riddle 37
                                        Allah it is He who sent down the Book in truth.

                                        The Truth is that which every one possesses in his RUH, breathed in to the soul by Allah as his first breath that brought his dead body till then into springing life; the ultimate truth is the presence of God Himself nearer than one's life. There is thus no hidden thing even in the ultimate Book itself. And the Truth of any single ayat, or any single word of the ayat divulges its meanings in endless possible ways with reference to the context i.e the combined mental status and physical circumstances of an individual at any given point of time. Quran functions as the soulful guidance to any reader, if only the reader applies every single ayat, contextually and intricately connects it to his life's presenting situation; but unfortunately the whole Muslim world at large takes Quraaan and its ayaaats to faaar behind, by one and a half millenniums. Please correct your ways. Read the open, clear, God Given Book, for the mankind and not the hidden book of jinns.

                                        Salam

                                        I also agree with this.

                                        Salaam

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                                          diamantinehoneybunch
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                                          +salaam

                                          You said this on more than one occasion before. Have you ever tried to understand? Are you even willing to understand? So if you did not understand what I had said then why have you thrown in so many side remarks against what I had said which is then all unjustified. In the process you might have denied yourself a great and beautiful knowledge.

                                          This knowledge is so simple. It is just a willingness to want to learn and know if it is true. I am here to show you personally if you want me to. But are you truly willing. That is the main point that you should have raised here! What do you have to say about that?

                                          +salaam

                                          Salaam+

                                          Stoning is not beautiful.

                                          +salaam

                                          Amiyr,

                                          Decoding the riddle 37
                                          Allah it is He who sent down the Book in truth.

                                          The Truth is that which every one possesses in his RUH, breathed in to the soul by Allah as his first breath that brought his dead body till then into springing life; the ultimate truth is the presence of God Himself nearer than one's life. There is thus no hidden thing even in the ultimate Book itself. And the Truth of any single ayat, or any single word of the ayat divulges its meanings in endless possible ways with reference to the context i.e the combined mental status and physical circumstances of an individual at any given point of time. Quran functions as the soulful guidance to any reader, if only the reader applies every single ayat, contextually and intricately connects it to his life's presenting situation; but unfortunately the whole Muslim world at large takes Quraaan and its ayaaats to faaar behind, by one and a half millenniums. Please correct your ways. Read the open, clear, God Given Book, for the mankind and not the hidden book of jinns.

                                          Salam

                                          Salaam brother.

                                          I agreeeeeeeeeeee yay

                                          This al-amiyr dude, if you read his posts, you would notice that he keeps making assertion that al-Qur'an and al-Kitaab are two distinct things and Qur'an is not complete whilst alKitaab is complete (i.e Qur'an doesn't command stoning whilst Kitaab does). Astaghfirallah.

                                          He often gets mad when people criticize him.

                                          Why doesn't this al-amiyr teach his lessons on his own website?

                                          #StopSpamming

                                          Regards,
                                          Yuliana

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