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I have commited shirk - is there hope for me?

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    drfazl
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    May we be elevated from
    Mumin to Muslims

    Brother Kazi,

    There are two lives for us in this world, out of which we choose One, which is the most difficult thing of challenges we could face on this earth. Our mind houses the two lives one, the Will of Allah that is intuited from our Soul, our insight that which conveys to our mind only righteousness and that which distinguishes to us between right and wrong of everything that our mind houses at any given time; and the other, the evil desires which our external physical senses like hearing and sight institutes into our mind, against the insight, the soulful Will of Allah.

    Our mind thus houses two lives

    One, The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge against The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force.

    Two, the reverse of it. The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force against The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge.

    Those who Wilfully Wish the first, are the believers, they side with the Soul; and those who lustily desire the second are the disbelievers, siding with the inducements of shaitan - these act instinctively through external reflexes triggered off from their brain, without any control from the soulful mind.

    The first category are the distinguished, honourable, dignified believers; while the second groups are the mindless down trodden disbelievers.

    Both the components are there in the mind of every man, the difference in the ratio between the two qualities distinguishes and differentiates between the individuals. And every individual is different within him every moment. This is the grace of Allah; it is not for us to distinguish and judge for Allah is the best of judges. There is no way we can call one a believer and the other individual a disbeliever as long as one has not completely lost his soul. None knows except Allah when his soul will be awakened to His Will and whose mind is fit for it. Allah is the best of judges.

    A believer will not judge himself a believer; so he has in the depth of his mind doubts and fears if he is leading the life towards being elevated from the level of a believer i.e from the state of a mumin, to the highest state, The Muslim. The state of a Muslim is that state of mind that is at Salam with The Salam, Allah. To attain this state, we shall have firm belief and put our Trust in such Attributes of Allah The Forgiving, The Merciful, The Tolerant, The Enduring, The Patient, The Kind, The Truthful, The Able, The Plentiful, The Wise and there is none like unto Him. And it is not for us to judge His Attributes and say "Allah will not tolerate or forgive this or that!" If we judge Allah this way, we are the worst of all disbelievers and will be the fuel of hell.

    So let us believe and put our Trust in All The Comforting Qualities of Allah, however badly positioned we are by our mind and actions today; never to despair of His Bountiful Mercy and Abundant Tolerance and Kindness towards us. We are thus mumins to be elevated gradually by the Most Wise, Able to the state of Muslim as He please. And no doubt we would be well pleased with Him and what shall remain forever with us is, His Salam. Now we are Muslims, for Him.

    Let us start our lives basically as mumins in His Qualities, putting our trust in THE SAME, and take the back seat as He Guides us through beautiful passages to the state of one possessing Salam, all the way to heaven as Muslims. Here is the prayer of the two Prophets, Ibrahim and Ismail. Here let us be reminded of again these are not ordinary mumins or believers but the two grand prophets of tallest order who together pray to become Muslims

    2128 Our God, and make us Muslims unto You and from our descendants a Muslim nation unto You. And show us our path and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

    And let us listen to the submission of Prophet Sulaiman to Allah

    12101 My Lord, You have given me of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous."

    Combining the three prophets' prayers, our prayers shall be

    O Allah the God of the Worlds
    Make us live our lives as mumins;
    And elevate and raise us as Muslims!

    brother kazi
    salam

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      huruf
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      Brother Kazi,

      There are two lives for us in this world, out of which we choose One, which is the most difficult thing of challenges we could face on this earth. Our mind houses the two lives one, the Will of Allah that is intuited from our Soul, our insight that which conveys to our mind only righteousness and that which distinguishes to us between right and wrong of everything that our mind houses at any given time; and the other, the evil desires which our external physical senses like hearing and sight institutes into our mind, against the insight, the soulful Will of Allah.

      Our mind thus houses two lives

      One, The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge against The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force.

      Two, the reverse of it. The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force against The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge.

      Those who Wilfully Wish the first, are the believers, they side with the Soul; and those who lustily desire the second are the disbelievers, siding with the inducements of shaitan - these act instinctively through external reflexes triggered off from their brain, without any control from the soulful mind.

      The first category are the distinguished, honourable, dignified believers; while the second groups are the mindless down trodden disbelievers.

      Both the components are there in the mind of every man, the difference in the ratio between the two qualities distinguishes and differentiates between the individuals. And every individual is different within him every moment. This is the grace of Allah; it is not for us to distinguish and judge for Allah is the best of judges. There is no way we can call one a believer and the other individual a disbeliever as long as one has not completely lost his soul. None knows except Allah when his soul will be awakened to His Will and whose mind is fit for it. Allah is the best of judges.

      A believer will not judge himself a believer; so he has in the depth of his mind doubts and fears if he is leading the life towards being elevated from the level of a believer i.e from the state of a mumin, to the highest state, The Muslim. The state of a Muslim is that state of mind that is at Salam with The Salam, Allah. To attain this state, we shall have firm belief and put our Trust in such Attributes of Allah The Forgiving, The Merciful, The Tolerant, The Enduring, The Patient, The Kind, The Truthful, The Able, The Plentiful, The Wise and there is none like unto Him. And it is not for us to judge His Attributes and say "Allah will not tolerate or forgive this or that!" If we judge Allah this way, we are the worst of all disbelievers and will be the fuel of hell.

      So let us believe and put our Trust in All The Comforting Qualities of Allah, however badly positioned we are by our mind and actions today; never to despair of His Bountiful Mercy and Abundant Tolerance and Kindness towards us. We are thus mumins to be elevated gradually by the Most Wise, Able to the state of Muslim as He please. And no doubt we would be well pleased with Him and what shall remain forever with us is, His Salam. Now we are Muslims, for Him.

      Let us start our lives basically as mumins in His Qualities, putting our trust in THE SAME, and take the back seat as He Guides us through beautiful passages to the state of one possessing Salam, all the way to heaven as Muslims. Here is the prayer of the two Prophets, Ibrahim and Ismail. Here let us be reminded of again these are not ordinary mumins or believers but the two grand prophets of tallest order who together pray to become Muslims

      2128 Our God, and make us Muslims unto You and from our descendants a Muslim nation unto You. And show us our path and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

      And let us listen to the submission of Prophet Sulaiman to Allah

      12101 My Lord, You have given me of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous."

      Combining the three prophets' prayers, our prayers shall be

      O Allah the God of the Worlds
      Make us live our lives as mumins;
      And elevate and raise us as Muslims!

      brother kazi
      salam

      Amin, May God be a Merciful judge to His creatures.

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        drfazl
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        Amin, May God be a Merciful judge to His creatures.

        And
        May The Most Merciful,
        May Thee be Benevolent and Ample
        Upon us with the same.

        Amin

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          DrGm
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          May we be elevated from
          Mumin to Muslims

          Brother Kazi,

          There are two lives for us in this world, out of which we choose One, which is the most difficult thing of challenges we could face on this earth. Our mind houses the two lives one, the Will of Allah that is intuited from our Soul, our insight that which conveys to our mind only righteousness and that which distinguishes to us between right and wrong of everything that our mind houses at any given time; and the other, the evil desires which our external physical senses like hearing and sight institutes into our mind, against the insight, the soulful Will of Allah.

          Our mind thus houses two lives

          One, The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge against The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force.

          Two, the reverse of it. The desire, the falsehood, the impulse, the sight, the knowledge, the instinct, the brute force against The Will, The Truth, The Insight, The Vision, The Wisdom, The Criterion, The Challenge.

          Those who Wilfully Wish the first, are the believers, they side with the Soul; and those who lustily desire the second are the disbelievers, siding with the inducements of shaitan - these act instinctively through external reflexes triggered off from their brain, without any control from the soulful mind.

          The first category are the distinguished, honourable, dignified believers; while the second groups are the mindless down trodden disbelievers.

          Both the components are there in the mind of every man, the difference in the ratio between the two qualities distinguishes and differentiates between the individuals. And every individual is different within him every moment. This is the grace of Allah; it is not for us to distinguish and judge for Allah is the best of judges. There is no way we can call one a believer and the other individual a disbeliever as long as one has not completely lost his soul. None knows except Allah when his soul will be awakened to His Will and whose mind is fit for it. Allah is the best of judges.

          A believer will not judge himself a believer; so he has in the depth of his mind doubts and fears if he is leading the life towards being elevated from the level of a believer i.e from the state of a mumin, to the highest state, The Muslim. The state of a Muslim is that state of mind that is at Salam with The Salam, Allah. To attain this state, we shall have firm belief and put our Trust in such Attributes of Allah The Forgiving, The Merciful, The Tolerant, The Enduring, The Patient, The Kind, The Truthful, The Able, The Plentiful, The Wise and there is none like unto Him. And it is not for us to judge His Attributes and say "Allah will not tolerate or forgive this or that!" If we judge Allah this way, we are the worst of all disbelievers and will be the fuel of hell.

          So let us believe and put our Trust in All The Comforting Qualities of Allah, however badly positioned we are by our mind and actions today; never to despair of His Bountiful Mercy and Abundant Tolerance and Kindness towards us. We are thus mumins to be elevated gradually by the Most Wise, Able to the state of Muslim as He please. And no doubt we would be well pleased with Him and what shall remain forever with us is, His Salam. Now we are Muslims, for Him.

          Let us start our lives basically as mumins in His Qualities, putting our trust in THE SAME, and take the back seat as He Guides us through beautiful passages to the state of one possessing Salam, all the way to heaven as Muslims. Here is the prayer of the two Prophets, Ibrahim and Ismail. Here let us be reminded of again these are not ordinary mumins or believers but the two grand prophets of tallest order who together pray to become Muslims

          2128 Our God, and make us Muslims unto You and from our descendants a Muslim nation unto You. And show us our path and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

          And let us listen to the submission of Prophet Sulaiman to Allah

          12101 My Lord, You have given me of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous."

          Combining the three prophets' prayers, our prayers shall be

          O Allah the God of the Worlds
          Make us live our lives as mumins;
          And elevate and raise us as Muslims!

          brother kazi
          salam

          peace,

          Amin

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            Jafar
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            I have committed shirk . I prayed to Jesus. I have been involved in Wicca . But deep down I know god is one. The Wiccas god is not God.

            ?Two men went up into the temple to pray,
            One a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

            The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus
            ?God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.?

            But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ?God, be merciful to me, a sinner!?

            I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."
            -- Jesus, Luke 18

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              Shirk cannot been forgived in 448, just a misstranslation.

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                huruf
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                Shirk is embedded in us since the very moment we are created as creatures separate from God. Our task as such is the return to God, therefore a way of purification from shirk, from separation. I do not think there is shirk and non shirk as two things apart and nto shade in between. I think we have a way of purifying from separateness from God to acknowledgement of God and only One, and getting rid of our separateness. It is a way,y is a struggle, our task, it is not an "it is black or white" it is a travel from chaos to the harmony of tawheed.

                May God's help never fail us, and may we never fail ourselves in availing from God's help.

                It is a long way, many times painful, but whatever way it is, it is the one chosen by God for us. We must glorify Him for it. We are out of His rahma, and He takes care of us always.

                Salaam

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                  Man_of_Faith
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                  Salaam Earthdom,

                  What do you say now? So even if we sincerely regret our shirk we cannot be forgiven for it? Even if we repent and reform afterwards while we are still alive in this world? And we committed shirk because of ignorance and not intentionally.

                  God bless you

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                    Salam Man of Faith

                    What I mean is "shirk sin cannot been forgiven" doctrine in verse 448 occur because misstranslation.

                    This is the list of traditionalist translation

                    -Shahih Internasional Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him.
                    -Yusuf Ali Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him

                    And this is mine translation of 448

                    "Indeed God does not forgive that associated with Him"

                    Read carefully, what God blame in that verse actually not the actor of shirk, but the object one (that).It can be say the example of the object of shirk (that) is like Firaun who claim himself as equal to God etc.

                    If God blame the actors, then this will be contrary to another verses which said if God is the Forgiver and the Merciful.

                    Just try to think again, if God doesn't forgive the shirk act, then how the Buddhist, Hindu convert to Islam?? because they also set equal to God.

                    God bless you.
                    "

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                      muslims
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                      Shirk is not forgivable only if one dies with shirk

                      Salam

                      You are still living and I see no reason for you to worry or despair when there might be abundance of time for repentance. Use it wisely, and all it needs for Allah to forgive us is "sincerity".

                      Indeed, no one despairs of relief from Allah
                      except the disbelieving people"
                      (1287)

                      Peace.

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