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    unknownuser
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    Your lack is too hasty for make generalization.

    Then you accuse me for mate can be animal, hence you're out of context.

    Please use common sense, what I mean mate is spouse of course

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      muslims
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      I mean mate is spouse of course

      Salam

      So you did mean it as "spouse"!!!

      Definition of "spouse"

      spouse (spous, spouz)
      n.
      A marriage partner; a husband or wife.
      tr.v. (spouz, spous) spoused, spous?ing, spous?es Archaic
      To marry; wed.

      http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
      http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
      http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
      http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

      The spouse is a marriage partner, a husband or wife. The word spouses are an inference for "marriages" and is according to the Qur'an.

      comparison; "mates", which can also mean other than marriages, and as long they can fit each other.
      http//dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/mate_1
      http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/mate
      http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mate
      http//www.thefreedictionary.com/mate
      http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/mate

      Therefore and if you are referring it to "spouses", then it must mean "marriages"!

      Therefore, it must also mean different sex or gender; ie. husband and wife, and because there is no such thing as "same-sex marriage" in the Qur'an. You have said it, "Yes marriage in Quran is about husband and wive".

      Therefore, Allah is only allowing marriages in (235-6) or (7029-31), and prohibit every other than marriages (refer here), including homosexuality.

      Can we agree on this?

      Otherwise, they can use their "private parts" to anyone, including animals!

      Therefore your answer is B; ie. "Homosexuals "can use" their private parts to "anyone" (ie. same-sex marriage, etc.)"

      and the Qur'an will be self contradicting...

      These are my questions or issues from your interpretation on "wives/spouses" or "mates" self contradictions

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605924.msg341112#msg341112
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605924.msg341117#msg341117
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605924.msg341120#msg341120

      See how you get caught with your so-called wisdom and clear thinking? ;D

      what I mean mate is spouse of course

      Yes marriage in Quran is about husband and wive

      I already told you if 235-6 is not about marriage

      Peace

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        unknownuser
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        All of your posts, just merely out of context.You only used logic, logic n logic withouth see context.

        See how you get caught with your so-called wisdom and clear thinking? ;D

        Quote from Earthdom on Yesterday at 104821 pm
        what I mean mate is spouse of course

        Quote from Earthdom on Yesterday at 053748 pm
        Yes marriage in Quran is about husband and wive

        Quote from Earthdom on Yesterday at 053748 pm
        I already told you if 235-6 is not about marriage

        This is one of your lack.You quoted someone arguments and do out of contex
        You create premis by quoted my posts.Three of them has no relation at all and each sentence talking about different conteks.

        This is you who very pride to your logic science and misunderstood someone post mostly.
        You also play rolling yourself in your posts.

        Ok I think I must stop get discussion with you in this thread, coz the discussion will no ending.

        Peace

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          muslims
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          Salam

          Do you mean "spouses" or not?

          You want to change what you have just said right now?

          Fine.. what is it now? yes

          I mean mate is spouse of course

          http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
          http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
          http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
          http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

          Peace

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            unknownuser
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            Salam

            Do you mean "spouses" or not?

            You want to change what you have just said right now?

            Fine.. what is it now? yes

            Peace

            Since start you just merely out of contexs.You never understand what I said.You don't understand in what situation I say "spouse".

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              muslims
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              Since start you just merely out of contexs.You never understand what I said.You don't understand in what situation I say "spouse".

              Salam

              Do you understand what is "spouse"?

              and do you mean it to say "spouse"?

              Peace

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                unknownuser
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                Salam

                Do you understand what is "spouse"?

                Peace

                Of course, I know.I never confusing "spouse" in english, but this just u brother.

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                  muslims
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                  Of course, I know.I never confusing "spouse" in english, but this just u brother.

                  Salam

                  Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says "spouses" is not referring to "marriages"

                  http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
                  http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
                  http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
                  http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

                  You may also refer me to your dictionary.

                  Peace

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                    unknownuser
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                    Salam

                    Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says it is not referring to "marriages"

                    http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
                    http//www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spouse
                    http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/spouse
                    http//www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/spouse

                    You may also refer me to your dictionary.

                    Wa'alaikum salaam Mr out of context.

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                      muslims
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                      Salam

                      See? How are you trying so hard to distort the words in the Qur'an?

                      Maybe, innocently .. or may also out of ego, regardless it is the truth or not. Allah Knows Best.

                      I mean mate is spouse of course

                      Here are the links, quote one dictionary that says "spouses" is not referring to "marriages"

                      Therefore and if you are referring it to "spouses", then it must mean "marriages"!

                      Peace.

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                        Salam

                        See? How you are trying hard to distort the words in the Qur'an? Maybe, innocently.

                        Peace.

                        Distort?? I distort Quranic verses with my Arabic knowledge, while you distort it with your strange logic science.

                        Peace

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                          muslims
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                          Salam

                          This is a simple question, do you mean it as "spouse" or not?

                          Can you understand this simple question?

                          Choose whatever you like from your own interpretation, according to your supreme Arabic knowledge. I don't really care about what you choose. It makes no difference to my arguments. Either way I can prove it logically how your interpretation is inconsistent with the Qur'an. The Qur'an has mentioned about this, and I believe in it.

                          So.. choose one, A or B

                          A. It means spouses

                          B. It does not mean spouses

                          Peace

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                            unknownuser
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                            So.. choose one, A or B

                            A. It means spouses

                            B. It does not mean spouses

                            Ok I will be patient from now.

                            What verse do u mean for answering your question?

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                              muslims
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                              Salam

                              You don't understand that simple question?

                              What is wrong with your wisdom and clear thinking? confused

                              Peace

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                                unknownuser
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                                You don't understand that simple question?

                                Yes I don't understand, so explain your question clearly.

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                                  muslims
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                                  Yes I don't understand, so explain your question clearly.

                                  Salam

                                  You must be lying since you have already answered it previously and yet you are saying don't understand the question?

                                  I mean mate is spouse of course

                                  The most simple question, with an option of A or B?

                                  How can any believers acted this way? confused

                                  If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is probably what?

                                  So.. A or B?

                                  This is a simple question, do you mean it as "spouse" or not?

                                  Peace

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                                    You must be lying since you have already answered it previously and yet you say you still don't understand the question?

                                    How can any believers acted this way? confused

                                    I'm not lying, lying in this forum is no use for me.

                                    Indeed verse 236 talk about human mates

                                    236 Except around their mates, or those who are maintained by their oaths, they are free from blame.(Free-Minds Translation).

                                    If we look by the conteks of the verses, mates (zawaj) is spouse.Spouses is neutral in gender, it can be male or female.

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                                      If we look by the conteks of the verses, mates (zawaj) is spouse.Spouses is neutral in gender, it can be male or female.

                                      Salam

                                      So.. let me confirm it again with you for the (x) times, you mean it as "spouses"?

                                      Male or female is irrelevant to what I will discuss here.

                                      Peace

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                                        Yes, by looking of verse's context.

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                                          muslims
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                                          So.. let me confirm it again with you for the (x) times, you mean it as "spouses"?

                                          Yes, by looking of verse's context.

                                          Salam

                                          Okay, you mean it to be "spouses".

                                          And those who guard their private parts. Except from their spouses

                                          Second question,

                                          Now, can you show me any dictionary (link) that says "spouses" is not related to "husband or wife", or "marriages"?

                                          Peace

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