Why I left so called "islam"....

unknownuser

salam alaykum

i did a search and found this

also

http//www.zoroastrianism.cc/discussions_8.html

salam

ps here is how i searche dit u may find more but i have not read all of them that came up on the search engine

http//www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=zoroastrianism+influence+on+islam&spell=1

ok hope that helps inshalalh

amanda

bluerose

amanda,

thanks a lot!

blue

Kashif

Salam Amanda,

Thanks for sharing your story with us.

I have read the whole thread. one thing Ansar and other sunni keep bringing it is the question of hadith validation. We are ALL agree the Hadith opposition existed long in history since prophet Muhammad (pbuh) death. Sects came into being because of using those hadith as SOURCE OF GUIDANCE and FOLLOW THEM BLINDLY. Now This issue is not new. As famous thinker Allama Gulam Ahmed Pervaiz did a research on Hadith and sect issues. I strongly encourage you check following website.

http//www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/BA_Parwez.htm

After conducting his reasearch on Quran and Hadith Books, he came to a conclusion that Hadith books cannot be used as source of guidance. The point is this movement of Quran/GOD ALONE is not NEW as claim by some. Think about it Hadith books that sunnis follow came into being about 200 or 250 years after Prohet death and during those years Islam is considered to have a golden Age. Transformation from Golden Age to Dark age begin to start as soon as people were forced to take Hadith as a source of Guidance. I just still don't understand How come sunni/Hadith Advoacte cannot see this?

Now Once we eliminate Hadiths as a source of guidance, we have to solely depend on ONLY ONE SOUCE which is QURAN. I beleive if we all sinceraly follow the Allah Guidance through Quran, there will be no sect and whole world will be muslim because only Quranic principles can make our life perfect in this life and hereafter.

I would say Let's Muslimize World.

May Allah Give us true guidance.

Best Regards
Kashif

jas68

Assalam Alaikoum everyone amanda your story sounds so familiar i also met some strange people along the way and have all but lost my islam at this point but there is something that makes me struggle on and was doing a search and found this amazing site i also feared the jinn in the toilet at one point and many other strange things but when a sister told me that losing my job and being put on the street was the will of Allah (swt) i just couldnt cop that yeh im sure it was part of gods plan but to have it said to you like that and to say fear Allah ive always been closer to things i loved and this is also true of god when i began to fear more than i loved i lost that amazing spiritual feeling i had with god and huge love and turned into something sinister and ugly anyways this site has given some spark even at 3am looking forward to seeing more of everyone take care all

asdfjk

..... ive always been closer to things i loved and this is also true of god when i began to fear more than i loved i lost that amazing spiritual feeling i had with god and huge love and turned into something sinister and ugly anyways this site has given some spark even at 3am looking forward to seeing more of everyone take care all

Salaam jas68

welcome to the forum - may Allah bless and guide us all - we are all so in need of his unending Mercy.

peace

asdfjk

unknownuser

salam

hi this is amanda i wanted to thank you all for reading my thread and for your responses as well

i have truly been blessed i feel for having all of you and for finally finding the truth

when i first came to islam and then i elft because of obvious reasons i could not truly go back to christianity becasue i deep down had a feeling it was wrong it just didnt feel right to ehar people praying to jesus
and even now i truly vould not go back to ritualism and meaningless conformity after i know the truth i just cant possibly find any logic in the sunnis or shias or any other sect of islam's mentality

i found no logic in needed jesus for my salvation if god made jesus
so i find no logic in needing muhammad or hadeeths or imams since god made these men

God doesnt need us...we need him

i find no logic in denying god's words that his book is complete

when iu was a "fake" muslim (lol)
i could talk all day with christinas about the trinity but they could talk in circles all day i still knew deep in my heart that god is one he didnt not need jesus to die for our slavation and god doesnt need "scholars" to explain or guide or prohibit things or clarify them

if they say muhammad was illerate and he still managed to understand Gods words and message that was given to him why do we need any other person muhammad needed no one but god and none of the prophets needed anyone but god to explain his words or laws or ways so why do we as human beings need other than god like imamms or shekihs or whatever just becasue people were prophets does that mean they were some how different than us no i dont think so i think they were just lucky and recieved a message or book and made the right choice

i love god and try my best to become better as much as i can
i ask god to increase my knowledge and allow for as many souls to know the truth as god wills inshalalh

may god bless all the submitters inshallah

humbly yours
amanda

TAJ

Salaam Amanda,

salam

the heritage of bukhari menas alot becasue if u look at the religion of iranians before islam and see the similarities that are in existence in todays hadeth from him it almost mirrors zoroastrians religion which was irans religion before islam so i dont see how something from god would be copied from zoroastrians which were fire worshippers makes uthink was his ahdeeth infulenced from his beleif that he was raised with or perhaps his former beleif or contires beelifs infleunced him as to which hadeths to accept or reject

I have surfed the Internet but failed to find any connection between "Islamic" rituals that can be found in Bukhari and Zoroastrianism let alone similarities. Can you give me some examples from your own experience and also direct me to a site that speaks about such comparison in detail?

Thank you!

Taj

unknownuser

Taj ! Blind as a BAT!

Look at the zoroostrian salaat in the Salaat section.

and see the connection.

Thanks.And Salaams.

TAJ

mz357,

You have to choices Either to abide by the forum rules http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1704
or (hopefully) make your attitude expose you even further.

Taj

unknownuser

Salaams taj,
so i have broken the forum rules ,apparently you havn't?

Then in future i think i will call you non muslim ,shall i ,so then i won't be breaking the rules like you think you havn't!!!

i think you prefer that, okay.

Thanks.

Bye.

marie

Peace mz, taj,

Please express yourself without neither calling name nor personal remarks .

Respect other users (this includes personal insults or remarks).

Thanks

TAJ

Salaam Marie,

I haven't spoken any insult to mz357 so please don't include me with him. What I would really love to see is your personal view on what mz357 is doing with the Arabic and the words of the Quran on his thread Jesus , had a father ?What do you think?

http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2930
Can you go there and check it, please? Thank you!

Taj

marie

Salaam Taj

Now I can say that you cannot possibly be a Muslim

if what is underlined is not a personnal remark, then my apologies roll

Please avoid to judge each other, Otherwise, there is none to blame but yourself when you receive a harsh answer.

All what we can do to sahre our understanding, knowledge, to correct each other in the best manner.

Thanks

TAJ

Salaam Marie,

My opologies to Mz357 and to the forum. I guess I did break the rules of the forum when I doubted the faith of Brother Mz357. BUT roll ...I said what I said because I just lost my patience. I couldn't keep quiet seeing the words of Allah being deformed x Can you o , Marie? Personally, I thought it was too much. But anyway, now Mz357 and I have agreed on a truce roll )
Check the thread
Jesus , had a father ?What do you think?
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2930&start=0

Taj

marie

Salaam Taj,

I couldn't keep quiet seeing the words of Allah being deformed x Can you , Marie?

I think MZ try to improve his understanding according his dictionnary and to learn. We all could misundersund some words and verses. Let us be indulgent.

But anyway, now Mz357 and I have agreed on a truce roll )

This is a good news twisted

Marie

unknownuser

salam alaykum,

Those who seek other than God?..

They have destroyed God?s Message
Amongst the masses
They have made worship into rituals
And seek to control the masses
With organized thinking
And lack of love

I sob in misery
How the beauty has been lost
For a cost?.

I weep at the deceit
Of ?leaders? who lead astray
I yearn for the day
People shall be free

Women mutilated
Rights disseminated
Men ruling a dominion not their own
Evil has grown
Into sects
The reject God?s true message

They seek to destroy the spirit
Of love and independence
Free will they try to steal
And the masses follow blindly like cattle
Soon they will be slaughtered by the One who made them
If they don?t condemn these lies
Don?t they realize?

What they have done?
Sobbing with anguish
I cry out for truth and justice
Unheard by the followers
And condemned by the ?leaders?
I stand-alone
Following God alone

Amanda Khalil

Elke

Touched me for sure, beautiful Amanda !

unknownuser

salam alaykum

thank you for reading my words

i apprecaite your comments alot

i have been reading the words from the beginning of the site

quote

"...O people of the Scripture, let us come to a common agreement between us and between you; that 1) we do not serve except God, and 2) do not set up anything at all with Him, and 3) that none of us takes each other as patrons besides God...." (Quran 364)

so i wondered what does patron really mean i assumed that i knew before but the meaning i thought of patron is one who buys something but it didnt make sense so i looked it up on www.dictionary.com so when iused each of the definitions none of them made sense and i know God's book is clear so then i found a definition that said patron is like instituition
so i thought "that none of us takes each other as "institutions" besides God so i thought well what does that really mean so i looke dup institution and found this

in?sti?tu?tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nst-tshn, -ty-)
n.
The act of instituting.

A custom, practice, relationship, or behavioral pattern of importance in the life of a community or society the institutions of marriage and the family.
Informal. One long associated with a specified place, position, or function.

An established organization or foundation, especially one dedicated to education, public service, or culture.
The building or buildings housing such an organization.
A place for the care of persons who are destitute, disabled, or mentally ill.

so then when i read it again with these definitions it seemed that it disproved hadeeths and sunnahs of men but have I come to the wrong conclusion please post anyone and feel free to give ur dieas thoughts or reserch regarding this topic
thank you

your sister
amanda

unknownuser

salam alaykum

fromt he previous post i wondered doesnt this make more sense not to take each other as insittutions besides God do not take the (custom, practice, relationship, or behavioral pattern of importance in the life of a community or society) besides God or ....do not take the (An established organization or foundation, especially one dedicated to education, public service, or culture.
The building or buildings housing such an organization. ) besdies God.

Doesn't this statement really looking at it mean not to follow organized religion of others or bnot to take cultural pracitces besides God?

please let me know what u all think
thanks
amanda

progod

God bless Amanda,

If you are interested in prayer and the rituals that the Koran promotes go to www.progod.org

This site is dedicated towards getting these things together amongst the community that follows the Koran. You are on the right path, Amanda. I thank God for that and for Him having guided me also.

You know the only think the Koran says that you have to do when you pray is bow or kneel in some way. That is all that I have seen and there is no one uniform way to do it.

Godbless,
Anwar