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    The_Chimp
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    Do you think Pharaoh and everyone else during that time doesn't know he is a human being?

    There have been people who claimed themselves to be Prophets and Gods - this is nothing new. The case of Rashad Khaliafah - he was no messenger.

    The case of the Australian Jesus - if you listen to him - he is very very very sincere . . . but he know he is neither Jesus nor a deity. But - he seems to believe it 100%.

    There are countless cases of this.

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      The_Chimp
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      Well . . . I noticed it all the times because it is so obvious that everyone in this world feed everyone else . . .

      including the criminals, disbelievers, non muslims and even animals and bacteria etc.

      Therefore, it doesn't explain how Allah feed and answer peoples' prayers.

      I only see human beings feed and answer peoples' prayers . . . this is clear facts.

      Please proof to me when did Allah feed and answer peoples' prayers.

      You might as well ask - prove me that the Almighty exists at all.

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        muslims
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        There have been people who claimed themselves to be Prophets and Gods - this is nothing new.

        and how was that is related to the specific verses and facts from the Quran . . ???

        as usual . .

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          muslims
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          You might as well ask - prove me that the Almighty exists at all.

          and again . . he can't even understand the issue . . boring

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            muslims
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            And he stands accused of such pantheistic attitude akin to the views of "Muslims"

            and again, that's how they present their argument and truth . . it is their tradition. Do you need sword? rotfl

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              The_Chimp
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              and again, that's how they present their argument and truth . . it is their tradition rotfl

              Huh? Or this is how you work . . . by sectarianism. Evidence? Read above. Look at what was put to you . . . and look how you replied.

              I simply pointed out - some of your thought is akin to what is alleged about Ibn Arabi. There was no "argument" or "truth" pointed out.

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                The_Chimp
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                and again . . he can't even understand the issue . . boring

                Sorry - but try not to take such attitude. I will report you to Admin. If i have misunderstood something - which I clearly haven't. Then please explain.

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                  The_Chimp
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                  and how was that is related to the specific verses and facts from the Quran . . ???

                  as usual . .

                  It isn't meant to be. It is in reply to your post.

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                    muslims
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                    What is the issue of discussion?

                    Maybe it is too hard for you . .

                    Let me ask you a simple question . . what is your name? rotfl

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                      The_Chimp
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                      and again, that's how they present their argument and truth . . it is their tradition. Do you need sword? rotfl

                      You just have bad-ass attitude. I guess you are still sore from losing the previous arguments.

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                        The_Chimp
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                        What is the issue of discussion?

                        Maybe it is too hard for you . .

                        Let me ask you a simple question . . what is your name? rotfl

                        "Muslims" - lost an argument. It emerged - his English is poor. But he does not understand a word of Arabic and hence cannot read the Quran. His theories are all build on clear misunderstandings.

                        When he cannot answer . . . he goes like this. Mildly abusive.


                        As to my name - it is "Amin Riadh".

                        Now what is your name?

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                          muslims
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                          Yes you win, according to your standard . .

                          This is the pattern of your argument quarrel

                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                          I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.

                          Therefore, I am right . . you are wrong ! rotfl

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                            The_Chimp
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                            Yes you win, according to your standard . .

                            This is the pattern of your argument quarrel

                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.
                            I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right. I am right.

                            Therefore, I am right . . you are wrong ! rotfl

                            Well it clearly isn't. And lest we forget . . . you are the one who went silent. Also - here we did not even have nay quarrels . . . yet you started right off.

                            Remember the wee statement you made? That you ain't sectarian. I guess that was not right.

                            Moving on. You have trouble with basics. . . like stating what your name is. What your background is. Stating what your mother tongue is.

                            Sorry brother - you can run forever but you cannot hide that you are not even able to read the Quran.

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                              Little_Mannie
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                              as usual, blank denials and false accusations bla . . bla . . bla . . without any supporting reasons . boring giveup

                              "False accusations" says the one who tells me I am committing shirk based on what, Pharaoh? and then tells me I "seem insecure", then says "don't attack the messenger, attack the message" because only "Muslims" knows what that is, but can't explain it coherently or with more than 1 or 2 sporadic ayat taken out of context of the Quran.

                              It is you who can't even support your own theories. Who gives a crap about 0 and 1 and infinity? Do those numbers bring justice or feed people?

                              Speaking of justice, if humans are Allah, capable of knowing and seeing all, when it comes to the day of judgment, how do you see this going down? Will people see the intentions and all the deeds of other people? What about when they give in charity anonymously? Which human will witness it? It is impossible because humans are not omnipresent. When humans are referred to as a creation, did we also create the heavens and earth, etc?

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                                muslims
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                                See? I have proven that you are incapable of making an argument . . worst, you can't even understand the issue of this thread . .

                                as usual . . http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356

                                he can repeat the same pattern as much as it need, even up to 10,000 posts ... and its fun!

                                argumentum ad nauseam rotfl

                                and . . you are being off topic nope

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                                  muslims
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                                  "False accusations" says the one who tells me I am committing shirk based on what, Pharaoh?

                                  Okay, where did I said this?

                                  Either you quote my statement . . or you are a liar.

                                  and why keep diverting from this simple question and creating so many false accusations?

                                  This is the issue of this thread and you seem to ignore every question relating to this verse from the beginning . . .

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                                  Allah is Ahad?

                                  That is, Allah is Oneness

                                  There is nothing in existence other than Him

                                  Allah is Samad

                                  A whole without any void or emptiness

                                  nothing penetrates into it

                                  nothing extends out from it

                                  Allah has no boundary

                                  Therefore, where can our existence that is other than the Ahad and Samad Allah be?

                                  Inside or outside of Allah?

                                  If you don't have the answer . . then don't push yourself too much

                                  Because now you sound like The Chimp !

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                                    The_Chimp
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                                    See? I have proven that you are incapable of making an argument . . worst, you can't even understand the issue of this thread . .

                                    as usual . . http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606023.msg344356#msg344356

                                    and . . you are being off topic nope

                                    Am I off topic? So when you were being a little sectarian - what was that about? Getting all personal?

                                    See? I have proven that you are incapable of making an argument

                                    No you haven't. All you have "proven" is that you cannot answer some simple questions put to you. And when you cannot you start quarreling.

                                    Just like today. I did not set off quarreling with you. You did that! All by your self

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                                      muslims
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                                      You are being off topic fftopic

                                      It is boring . . .

                                      and . . . what is the issue of this thread?

                                      Do you have the capacity to understand the issue, or you are going make an irrelevant argument (quarrelling) by repetition?

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                                        The_Chimp
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                                        Okay, where did I said this?

                                        Either you quote my statement . . or you are a liar.

                                        and why keep diverting from this simple question and creating so many false accusations?

                                        If you don't have the answer . . then don't push yourself too much

                                        Because now you sound like The Chimp !

                                        You are just outright rude. Is that so you do not have to answer simple questions?

                                        Allah is Ahad?

                                        That is, Allah is Oneness

                                        There is nothing in existence other than Him

                                        Allah is one. Where did you get oneness from?

                                        And then you say

                                        There is nothing in existence other than Him

                                        And how did you arrive at this? Obviously there is . . . as to the Almighty as the uncreated being - he is the only one. However, we accept him as our creator.

                                        Also - the use of Ahad refers to "unity" and the word Wahid refers to "one and unique"

                                        Allah is Samad

                                        A whole without any void or emptiness

                                        nothing penetrates into it

                                        nothing extends out from it

                                        Allah has no boundary

                                        Samad means Eternal and the absolute.


                                        Simple question. Your source?

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                                          Little_Mannie
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                                          My Arbab is Allah, that which "is," infinite and functioning as one, not myself. Perhaps if allah wished, i could be a conduit for his light, as you put it, but I don't prostrate to myself or other humans. Human reasoning is limited. I also don't possess the knowledge required to know for certain whether i do justice to the message, but that is part of our journey on this earth-- to find out and to define ourselves according to what is good and evil. Pharaoh is the poster child for thaghut. If you would have posted 4026 to 4032, you would not be thinking highly of pharaoh at all. you would see how allah sees pharaoh, in other words. People who think that humans are the ultimate in creation and judgment are committing thaghut.

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