NEW FINDINGS,"SHOULD WE WRITE AND SAY "qul" OR NOT?
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dEAR ALL,SALAM
just google,"Old islamic coins" and see the pictures,you will find some older coins,1300 years old,where sura 112 is embossed in gold,and note that,it has no "qul" .we are discussing this matter now,but it was settled lomg ago by our forefathers.they were very close to original islam and quran.just google this,"Pictures of old islamic coins".pictures of these coins will also show you the different versions of first kalima,la ilaha il lallaho,mohammad ur rasool allahe.the present version is an improvement of the older version shown in older coins.thanks. rotflSalaam
thank you for confirming this http//www.free-minds.org/true-testimony
Many people think they are contradicting Quran while they are just contradicting Abi Huraira (The Father of the Cat) rotfl631 When the hypocrites come to you they say "We bear witness that you are the messenger of God." And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.
However, i disagree with you on one point.
liars and hypocrytes accompagnate Muslims from the beginning.
There is no reason to believe that our ancient are closer to the Quran since i have it in my Hand.3121 And if they are told "Follow that which God has sent down." They say No, we will follow what we found our fathers doing." What if the devil had been leading them to the agony of Hell"
With quran we can catch cats and counterfeiters even 1300 years later rotfl
Thank you marifhaqPeace
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should you not instruct others to righteousness
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I think it is quite obvious. I'm amazed that there can be confusion about this.
"qul" is an instruction to say something. So, obviously we then say that which we are told to say.
Parroting the word "qul" makes it all a farce and in effect we are displaying that we have not understood the instruction at all. Actually, we are showing that we fail to understand that there is an instruction in the first place.The only time you would write or say "qul", is when you instruct someone, in arabic, to say the things the quran says.
Peace
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Peace Zulf,
People seem to think that parroting the Arabic words of The Book is like uttering magic words that triggers some secret mechanism. So they utter them very literally as on the paper.
God bless you
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of the older version shown in older coins.thanks. rotfl
What you laughing for??
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should you not instruct others to righteousness
yup
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What you laughing for??
I also didn't get the whole point because I haven't got a clue what r they talking about
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I also didn't get the whole point because I haven't got a clue what r they talking about
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when you type on web theirs a command given to your post that is kinda similar to "qul"
say is said so say it! you are you not dictating the message? do you not have two recorders with you listening?
are you not also dictating the message to them? even if they may know it already? -
My dear fye,
I just received an email from you via "free minds" this is in reply to my posting on above subject.Would you please send your reply to my post once again using different words and phrases,because I was not able to understand your point of view,so please send it again,thanks. -
Peace be upon you.
For me it would seem it goes like this
IF reciting/reading the Qur'an, either in our heads or out loud then we should read the Qur'an as it is - therefore, if we are reading that Surah then we would read Bismillahi Rahmaanir Raheem, Qul hu Allahu ahat, Allahus samat, lamulit wa lamulat, wa lam yakularu kufuwan ahat (excuse my errors)
Whereas the instruction is clear "SAY He is God, the One" therefore, if anybody asks us about God then SAY to them He is God, the One, The self-sustaining Master whom all creatures need but He doesn't need them"
This is just what seems correct to me, but ask God directly to make things clear to you - He has ALL the power.
May God increase us in knowledge and understanding.
Peace be upon you.