Which direction to pray?
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The real question is, which direction is your goal or focus towards?
2144 We see the shifting of your face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focus/goal ("qiblah" that will be pleasing to you, "You shall set yourself towards "al masjid al haram"; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the book know it is the truth from their Lord. God is not oblivious of what you do.
2150 Wherever you go out, you shall set yourself towards "al masjid al haram". Wherever you may be, you shall set yourselves towards it; that the people will have no room for debate with you, except those of them who are wicked. You shall not fear them, but fear Me so that I may complete My blessings upon you and that you may be guided.
People should think less superficially and ritualistic and more in terms of meaning and purpose.
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The real question is, which direction is your goal or focus towards?
People should think less superficially and ritualistic and more in terms of meaning and purpose.Peace progressive1993,
God specifically states that we are to have rituals
These are rituals2/184 Yusuf Ali (Fasting) for a fixed number of days;.............................................
Once you complete your Contact Prayer, you shall remember GOD while
standing, sitting, or lying down.* Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact
Prayers; the Contact Prayers are decreed for the believers at specific timesrit?u?al/rtul/ Show Spelled Show IPA
noun- an established or prescribed procedure for a religious or other rite.
God bless
peace
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peace,
How did this direction thing become so complicated?
I think it is because of the problems it creates, discussion of 20 problems here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.htmlNo-one has answered them to date* if you can feel free.
*not that I think they cannot be answered but certainly not with an eloquent/coherent/logical explanation.
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Peace progressive1993,
God specifically states that we are to have rituals
These are rituals2/184 Yusuf Ali (Fasting) for a fixed number of days;.............................................
Once you complete your Contact Prayer, you shall remember GOD while
standing, sitting, or lying down.* Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact
Prayers; the Contact Prayers are decreed for the believers at specific timesrit?u?al/rtul/ Show Spelled Show IPA
noun- an established or prescribed procedure for a religious or other rite.
God bless
peace
...Not in the mind-numbingly sense that most people are doing it in nowadays.
And you don't contradict any of the previous statements about the "qiblah".Bonus from Wiki
A ritual "is a stereotyped sequence of activities involving gestures, words, and objects, performed in a sequestered place, and designed to influence preternatural entities or forces on behalf of the actors' goals and interests." Rituals may be prescribed by the traditions of a community, including a religious community. Rituals are characterized by formalism, traditionalism, invariance, rule-governance, sacral symbolism and performance.
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Peace progressive1993,
...Not in the mind-numbingly sense that most people are doing it in nowadays.
I do not understand this
And you don't contradict any of the previous statements about the "qiblah".
I do not understand this
Bonus from Wiki
A ritual "is a stereotyped sequence of activities involving gestures, words, and objects, performed in a sequestered place, and designed to influence preternatural entities or forces on behalf of the actors' goals and interests." Rituals may be prescribed by the traditions of a community, including a religious community. Rituals are characterized by formalism, traditionalism, invariance, rule-governance, sacral symbolism and performance.Definition I gave was sound, yours is more complicated but same thing, therefore I agree.
You did not address the ayats
peace
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peace,
I think it is because of the problems it creates, discussion of 20 problems here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.htmlNo-one has answered them to date* if you can feel free.
*not that I think they cannot be answered but certainly not with an eloquent/coherent/logical explanation.
Peace Wakas,
I do not have time for lengthy links, thanks anyway. handshake
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Peace progressive1993,
I do not understand this
I do not understand this
Definition I gave was sound, yours is more complicated but same thing, therefore I agree.
You did not address the ayats
peace
I'm not surprised that you do not understand, and lol you didnt explain anything - just put verses.
Either way, I gave my opinion on this issue. There is no "direction of prayer". Not once is "qiblah" towards "al masjid al haram" put in connection with salat specifically. -
I'm not surprised that you do not understand, and lol you didnt explain anything - just put verses.
Either way, I gave my opinion on this issue. There is no "direction of prayer". Not once is "qiblah" towards "al masjid al haram" put in connection with salat specifically.No problem handshake
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For record and informing members of this forum i insert Dr. Ali Fazely response in FB
in this topic.Ali Fazely Qibla
2144 - We saw that you turn your face toward the sky. Hence, We turned you toward the Qibla that pleases you. Therefore, turn your face toward the Sacred Mosque. And wherever you are, turn your faces toward it. And indeed those who are given the scripture know for sure that this is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.Direction of A to B on a sphere is along the geodesic arc along the greatest circle defined by the center, A and B. So the line AB is the direction of the vector. Therefore, from the antipode, you simply pivot your head down (along the diameter of the sphere) and you are facing the Sacred Mosque. Obviously this can be done on any spherical object, i.e. the Moon, Mars or any place in the universe.
Below I have pasted a neutrino image of the Sun taken by the Super-K detector. For neutrinos the Sun is always visible no matter where you are on the Earth, day or night.
See the following website.http//strangepaths.com/the-sun-seen.../2007/01/06/en/
Image of the Sun taken through the Earth, in ?neutrino light?, at the Super-Kamiokande detector (Japan). The image has been obtained with a 503 days exposure, by registering neutrinos emitted from the solar core and detected in a 50 000-ton water pool located 1 km underground. At night, neutrinos were transparently traversing the whole earth before being registered in this image. -
For record and informing members of this forum i insert Dr. Ali Fazely response in FB
in this topic.KABA = bayt /bayt al haram/masjid al haram. ALL IN ONE . Really needs applaud bravo
QIBLAH CHANGE = change in the prayer direction WITHOUT THE WORD SALAT in the verse. WHAT AN INTERPRETATION of the verse brickwall
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KABA = bayt /bayt al haram/masjid al haram. ALL IN ONE . Really needs applaud bravo
QIBLAH CHANGE = change in the prayer direction WITHOUT THE WORD SALAT in the verse. WHAT AN INTERPRETATION of the verse brickwall
What is your opinion regardless name and location
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Therefore, from the antipode, you simply pivot your head down (along the diameter of the sphere) and you are facing the Sacred Mosque.
my response in FB
Then when we go to Sujood our head is off the center unless we do like thisRefreshing the proper posture to pray towards Mecca from that point
http//www.serpentbox.com/blog/images/masl17_yearinphotos0712.jpg
Salam / Peace -
Direction to pray.. For Heaven's sake, is "God" somewhere on Earth?
