Which direction to pray?

No longer a Sunna-rejecter

Peace and God bless, that was 3 years ago and you were 16 now you are 19. )

Haha yes D
Come a long way and will, go a lot further from here, God-willing.

Bahman

Refreshing the proper posture to pray towards Mecca from that point

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Salam / Peace

Bahman

http//youtu.be/pXamneUaa50

GODsubmitter

http//youtu.be/pXamneUaa50

Quite interesting!
Thank you

GODsubmitter

Bahman

Down... rotfl rotfl

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Peace Jafar
You image is missing some link and is not responding ,you may re post it

Bahman

Peace everybody.
Regardless, timing, actions, words, claims for 396,...... now we live in such era with GPS and all other tools to find our direction
Any high school student knows that any sphere any size can have infinite center axis wich creates 2 points 180 degree apart from each other in all directions.
Simpler example is we can insert a Large Knitting Needles into any line splitting an orange in any direction which creates 2 points 180 degree apart from each other in infinite direction (Nano degrees )
The following image shows that person in city 180 degree apart of KabhaS !

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Peace
i refresh the image was was corrupted but wonder this member which claims has PHD in mathematics and as far i have seen only manipulation of Miracle and not producing anything may knows the direction for prayer in the location showed on image .

Bahman

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hawk99

Peace,

How did this direction thing become so complicated?

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604383.msg308307#msg308307

We have seen you turning your face about the sky. We now assign a Qiblah
that is pleasing to you. Henceforth, you shall turn your face towards the Sacred Masjid.
Wherever you may be, all of you shall turn your faces towards it. Those who received the
previous scripture know that this is the truth from their Lord. GOD is never unaware of
anything they do.

Wherever you go, you shall turn your face towards the Sacred Masjid.
This is the truth from your Lord. GOD is never unaware of anything you all do

Wherever you go, you shall turn your face towards the Sacred
Masjid; wherever you might be, you shall turn your faces towards it. Thus,
the people will have no argument against you, except the transgressors among them.
Do not fear them, and fear Me instead. I will then perfect My blessings upon you, that
you may be guided.

peace

No longer a Sunna-rejecter

The real question is, which direction is your goal or focus towards?

2144 We see the shifting of your face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focus/goal ("qiblah&quot that will be pleasing to you, "You shall set yourself towards "al masjid al haram"; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the book know it is the truth from their Lord. God is not oblivious of what you do.

2150 Wherever you go out, you shall set yourself towards "al masjid al haram". Wherever you may be, you shall set yourselves towards it; that the people will have no room for debate with you, except those of them who are wicked. You shall not fear them, but fear Me so that I may complete My blessings upon you and that you may be guided.

People should think less superficially and ritualistic and more in terms of meaning and purpose.

hawk99

The real question is, which direction is your goal or focus towards?
People should think less superficially and ritualistic and more in terms of meaning and purpose.

Peace progressive1993,

God specifically states that we are to have rituals
These are rituals

2/184 Yusuf Ali (Fasting) for a fixed number of days;.............................................

Once you complete your Contact Prayer, you shall remember GOD while
standing, sitting, or lying down.* Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact
Prayers; the Contact Prayers are decreed for the believers at specific times

rit?u?al/rtul/ Show Spelled Show IPA
noun

an established or prescribed procedure for a religious or other rite.

God bless

peace

Wakas

peace,

How did this direction thing become so complicated?

I think it is because of the problems it creates, discussion of 20 problems here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html

No-one has answered them to date* if you can feel free.

*not that I think they cannot be answered but certainly not with an eloquent/coherent/logical explanation.

No longer a Sunna-rejecter

Peace progressive1993,

God specifically states that we are to have rituals
These are rituals

2/184 Yusuf Ali (Fasting) for a fixed number of days;.............................................

Once you complete your Contact Prayer, you shall remember GOD while
standing, sitting, or lying down.* Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact
Prayers; the Contact Prayers are decreed for the believers at specific times

rit?u?al/rtul/ Show Spelled Show IPA
noun

an established or prescribed procedure for a religious or other rite.

God bless

peace

...Not in the mind-numbingly sense that most people are doing it in nowadays.
And you don't contradict any of the previous statements about the "qiblah".

Bonus from Wiki

A ritual "is a stereotyped sequence of activities involving gestures, words, and objects, performed in a sequestered place, and designed to influence preternatural entities or forces on behalf of the actors' goals and interests." Rituals may be prescribed by the traditions of a community, including a religious community. Rituals are characterized by formalism, traditionalism, invariance, rule-governance, sacral symbolism and performance.

hawk99

Peace progressive1993,

...Not in the mind-numbingly sense that most people are doing it in nowadays.

I do not understand this

And you don't contradict any of the previous statements about the "qiblah".

I do not understand this

Bonus from Wiki
A ritual "is a stereotyped sequence of activities involving gestures, words, and objects, performed in a sequestered place, and designed to influence preternatural entities or forces on behalf of the actors' goals and interests." Rituals may be prescribed by the traditions of a community, including a religious community. Rituals are characterized by formalism, traditionalism, invariance, rule-governance, sacral symbolism and performance.

Definition I gave was sound, yours is more complicated but same thing, therefore I agree.

You did not address the ayats

peace

hawk99

peace,

I think it is because of the problems it creates, discussion of 20 problems here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html

No-one has answered them to date* if you can feel free.

*not that I think they cannot be answered but certainly not with an eloquent/coherent/logical explanation.

Peace Wakas,

I do not have time for lengthy links, thanks anyway. handshake

No longer a Sunna-rejecter

Peace progressive1993,

I do not understand this

Definition I gave was sound, yours is more complicated but same thing, therefore I agree.

You did not address the ayats

peace

I'm not surprised that you do not understand, and lol you didnt explain anything - just put verses.
Either way, I gave my opinion on this issue. There is no "direction of prayer". Not once is "qiblah" towards "al masjid al haram" put in connection with salat specifically.

hawk99

I'm not surprised that you do not understand, and lol you didnt explain anything - just put verses.
Either way, I gave my opinion on this issue. There is no "direction of prayer". Not once is "qiblah" towards "al masjid al haram" put in connection with salat specifically.

No problem handshake

Bahman

For record and informing members of this forum i insert Dr. Ali Fazely response in FB
in this topic.

Ali Fazely Qibla
2144 - We saw that you turn your face toward the sky. Hence, We turned you toward the Qibla that pleases you. Therefore, turn your face toward the Sacred Mosque. And wherever you are, turn your faces toward it. And indeed those who are given the scripture know for sure that this is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

Direction of A to B on a sphere is along the geodesic arc along the greatest circle defined by the center, A and B. So the line AB is the direction of the vector. Therefore, from the antipode, you simply pivot your head down (along the diameter of the sphere) and you are facing the Sacred Mosque. Obviously this can be done on any spherical object, i.e. the Moon, Mars or any place in the universe.

Below I have pasted a neutrino image of the Sun taken by the Super-K detector. For neutrinos the Sun is always visible no matter where you are on the Earth, day or night.
See the following website.

http//strangepaths.com/the-sun-seen.../2007/01/06/en/
Image of the Sun taken through the Earth, in ?neutrino light?, at the Super-Kamiokande detector (Japan). The image has been obtained with a 503 days exposure, by registering neutrinos emitted from the solar core and detected in a 50 000-ton water pool located 1 km underground. At night, neutrinos were transparently traversing the whole earth before being registered in this image.

hafeez_kazi

For record and informing members of this forum i insert Dr. Ali Fazely response in FB
in this topic.

KABA = bayt /bayt al haram/masjid al haram. ALL IN ONE . Really needs applaud bravo

QIBLAH CHANGE = change in the prayer direction WITHOUT THE WORD SALAT in the verse. WHAT AN INTERPRETATION of the verse brickwall

Bahman

KABA = bayt /bayt al haram/masjid al haram. ALL IN ONE . Really needs applaud bravo

QIBLAH CHANGE = change in the prayer direction WITHOUT THE WORD SALAT in the verse. WHAT AN INTERPRETATION of the verse brickwall

What is your opinion regardless name and location

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