This is more reasonable about 33:40
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Mazhar,
God just says that you should refrain from saying trinity for your own good and slams the claim of Jesus as the son of a god completely almost so you feel God is angry in the narration. And you come here and defend idolatry...
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The sentences of the Ayahs quoted are declrative, jugemental not imperative or advisory. Those are seperate Ayahs. Their statement is not declared as idolatory but is declared as denial of the absolute traits of Allah the Exalted through that assertion.
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I am just shaking my head. Go on with your religion.
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@ Bender & Jafar
Brothers, looks like you two have met with people who you consider to be the messenger/s.
May I know what they say to you? Whether you receive some valuable messages from them?
Perhaps both of you can share to us about the lessons that you know from them.
Salm.
Salaam,
RED Messengers of Allah are transmitting a message from Allah. What do you think a message from Allah contains?
Salaam,
Bender -
The Omnipresent, Perpetual, the Absolute is He the Exalted Who gradually communicated the Criterion to the Sincere Allegiant of Him the Exalted .
The purpose of communication of the Criterion Qur'aan is that he may retain the status of a Revivalist-Warner-Awakener for peoples in time and space - the Worlds.And had Our Majesty so decided-willed, We would have appointed a Warner in every town.
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Pagans and Muna'fi'qeen have one thing common
Pagans say why they be guided through the Messenger; why not Angels come to them; Why not verbal passages are communicated to them; and when they cannot answer or rebut any of the communication given by the Messenger, they start progpagating in people that he is obsessed, possessed. The Messenger is the problem issue for the Pagans.
Muna'fi'qeen are worst people than the Pagans because they falsely proclaim to belong to the company of believers but have the same problem issue the Messenger.
I am already told the views that you have expressed in quote which are peculiar trait of Muna'fi'qeen
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Indeed the Muna'fi'qeen Imposter Believers seek by contrary to fact verbal proclamation to beguile Allah the Exalted;While the fact is that He the Exalted lets them engulfed in their deceptive perception by leaving them as discarded/condemned.
And when they get up to join the Ass-sa'laat congregation they stand reluctantly and irritant with heavy heart. They just stand for feigning to people that they are believers.
And they do not remember Allah the Exalted except occasionally.
Muna'fi'qeen will get the worst end as compared to Pagans
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And you the Messenger will never find anyone inclined for helping them.
Be happy. Try to live in future if you wish not to be in the past.
Salaam,
Truly beautiful ayaats you quoted
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4145
Please reread your post again.
Salaam,
Bender -
RED Messengers of Allah are transmitting a message from Allah. What do you think a message from Allah contains?
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Have faith in Allah, glorify Him, and believe in the hereafter.
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Obey the commandments of Allah, and have patience in our obedience.
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Trust in Allah and follow the truth.
Did you receive such messages from him/them?
Salm.
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What I personnally have most appreciated and hit me from people who I considered spiritually inspired is the clearness the simplicity of it all. As if suddenly all that is encumbrace, mental or emotional was disipated and you see with clarity that things couldn't be simpler. It is not that you are not going to have problems on this earth, but that they take a comletely diferent aspect and dimension. And you gain peace, and conformity with is not somber resignation, but real peace. Because everything that happens to us is meant to ennoble us. To make us mor enoble humans. God really is there, is here, is with us, knows, caresses...
Salaam
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Peace huruf,
I suppose you may remember the beginning of my Nearness and Guidance thread where I speak of how simple a foundation the faith rests on. I mean it is to have faith and do/be good really. The some simple rules on top of that not taking really a rocket scientist to be able to understand.
And I have in truth not made it complicated lately either just went into a study of the word salat etc.
In fact I have another theory of the word salat again which is better than the one about just unity. This time I think it may not just be a theory but that I have actually "nailed" the right definition. I will go through it eventually for those interested, maybe sooner than later, God willing. The relief is how simple in meaning salat is after you will have heard it and "Islam" is really easy as a system and command, only that "conjecturers" make it seem complicated (and ritualistic).
Salat is connected with the word communion, but I admit that neither do people understand what I am talking about nor is it descriptive in any way. The new elaboration I think everyone will understand.
Most of the faith is practiced with the heart, the conscience. Therefore it is negative for humans having polluted hearts.
Have faith
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Have faith in Allah, glorify Him, and believe in the hereafter.
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Obey the commandments of Allah, and have patience in our obedience.
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Trust in Allah and follow the truth.
Did you receive such messages from him/them?
Salm.
Salaam,
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Some messengers of the past
Isa
5117Nuh
759Hud
765Salih
2745Ibrahim
2916Su3aib
1184This is the main message messengers of Allah transmit.
Salaam,
Bender -
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Would you kindly share your understanding for ?
May I know what do you think it means?
Salm.
Salaam,
Sure, but I like to know first what you think it means ;D
please don't reply immediately just ponder on it. The Quran can help you to get an answer or the right direction to the answer.Salaam,
Bender -
Hint Service to someone or something.
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I do not like interview (Q and A) kind of discussions.
I also like to hear what the other party thinks when I discuss with him/her.Understood.
Forgive me for giving you many questions, perhaps I should stop asking you, I'm sorry.
I suppose I often ask important things to people here. Perhaps they're willing to share what they know (their knowledge) to me, so I can ponder/think over what they say.
I'm not always have the same knowledge with others, perhaps they know better than me about something, so I ask, maybe I can have new knowledge for something which previously I didn't know.
Looks like I consider that our conversation in this thread is not discussion, but perhaps more like I need to know your experiences related with your meeting with people whom you think is/are messenger/s.
I have important personal reason for why I asked you about the messengers. I asked you about them because you seem to think that you have met some/one of them.
If you never met them personally, then perhaps I will not go so far in questioning to you about the messengers.
Salm.