It seems that true believers are a tiny minority!
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So mike789, to you worshiping God alone is equal to being a true believer. Well, not everybody shares the same viewpoint. But yeah, in a way it could be partly right. But it also depends on how you see this one God as, It's Being, and It's qualities. That is very important as well.
Well, actually it may not even be clear what 'worship', 'God alone' and 'true believer' means.
Because even if the real God may not be that way, people having such an image AND having no problems with it is definitely going to have that influence their own character and how much they stand for the rights of living beings in general.
I agree.
This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma.
One of Satan's (whatever Satan is) biggest successes is indeed the creation of religion. Had people REALLY believed and "been on the right path" there wouldn't have been any serious conflicts. The biggest problem of all is that people do not know themselves. If your blind to the mechanics of your own mind and brain, your own psychology and how your personality, opinions, fears, attitudes etc are formed and maintained, then you will be totally lost. People think the world is exactly the way it looks like through their eyes---through their tinted glasses.... how naive and dangerous! Look at the world! Look at all the religious people! Is a worldview based on ideas of separation, holier-than-thou, suspicion, hate and being-under-threat etc, really signs of being connected to God?... or is it a perverted mixture of fear, ego and blindness? Unless you start to clean your house from within, you'll create nothing but falsehood, well-meaning or not.
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Hello Zulf,
This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma.
Well said bravo
This statement has turned me into a big fan of yours! You are an advanced truth seeker indeed
One of Satan's (whatever Satan is) biggest successes is indeed the creation of religion. Had people REALLY believed and "been on the right path" there wouldn't have been any serious conflicts. The biggest problem of all is that people do not know themselves. If your blind to the mechanics of your own mind and brain, your own psychology and how your personality, opinions, fears, attitudes etc are formed and maintained, then you will be totally lost. People think the world is exactly the way it looks like through their eyes---through their tinted glasses.... how naive and dangerous! Look at the world! Look at all the religious people! Is a worldview based on ideas of separation, holier-than-thou, suspicion, hate and being-under-threat etc, really signs of being connected to God?... or is it a perverted mixture of fear, ego and blindness? Unless you start to clean your house from within, you'll create nothing but falsehood, well-meaning or not.
brickwallI completely agree. The most important thing is to discover and realize who we truly are and how we are connected to the infinite Creator, and use our free will to choose the service to others positive path on our journey back to assimilation with the infinite Creator.
Religions were created by higher density negative beings (such as the 5th density negative entities from Orion constellation) to control and manipulate 3rd density beings like us, to establish a hierarchical vertical structure of the service to self (STS) path as opposed to the horizontal social collective structure of service to others (STO) path.
Even al-quran talks about service to others (STO) when it talks about serving the infinite Creator. We are all part of the infinite Creator and when we serve others, we are in fact serving the infinite Creator. This idea of service to the infinite Creator thereby being "3bd" (root ayn-ba-dal) was deliberately mistranslated as "to worship" the infinite Creator, thereby creating the falsehood of the infinite Creator being an anthropomorphic, discrete, distinct, external, detached and therefore a finite god that should be worshipped, just like the pagan gods and goddesses of various cultures.
So I would say that those of us who "worship" God are actually the vast majority!
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you.
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This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma.
One of Satan's (whatever Satan is) biggest successes is indeed the creation of religion. Had people REALLY believed and "been on the right path" there wouldn't have been any serious conflicts. The biggest problem of all is that people do not know themselves. If your blind to the mechanics of your own mind and brain, your own psychology and how your personality, opinions, fears, attitudes etc are formed and maintained, then you will be totally lost. People think the world is exactly the way it looks like through their eyes---through their tinted glasses.... how naive and dangerous! Look at the world! Look at all the religious people! Is a worldview based on ideas of separation, holier-than-thou, suspicion, hate and being-under-threat etc, really signs of being connected to God?... or is it a perverted mixture of fear, ego and blindness? Unless you start to clean your house from within, you'll create nothing but falsehood, well-meaning or not.
brickwall
PeaceI'm kind of shocked that after reading all of that you don't believe that the Quran is the word of God. Unless I've got it wrong from your previous posts.
I think you have misunderstood "religion". The Quran is a good place to start to learn about religion and what the truth is.
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Religions were created by higher density negative beings (such as the 5th density negative entities from Orion constellation) to control and manipulate 3rd density beings like us, to establish a hierarchical vertical structure of the service to self (STS) path as opposed to the horizontal social collective structure of service to others (STO) path.
Truthseeker,
Do you believe what the Quran says? If so how did you come up the the above?
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Peace Ted,
Do you believe what the Quran says? If so how did you come up the the above?
4153 We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?
I will highly recommend to see the signs in the horizons and within yourself to discover the truth as per al-quran.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you.
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Peace Ted,
4153 We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?
I will highly recommend to see the signs in the horizons and within yourself to discover the truth as per al-quran.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you.
Sorry that still doesn't explain it. Do you know we can scientifically prove the existence of God as mentioned in the Quran?
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Well, actually it may not even be clear what 'worship', 'God alone' and 'true believer' means.
I agree.
This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct.This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma.
One of Satan's (whatever Satan is) biggest successes is indeed the creation of religion. Had people REALLY believed and "been on the right path" there wouldn't have been any serious conflicts. The biggest problem of all is that people do not know themselves. If your blind to the mechanics of your own mind and brain, your own psychology and how your personality, opinions, fears, attitudes etc are formed and maintained, then you will be totally lost. People think the world is exactly the way it looks like through their eyes---through their tinted glasses.... how naive and dangerous! Look at the world! Look at all the religious people! Is a worldview based on ideas of separation, holier-than-thou, suspicion, hate and being-under-threat etc, really signs of being connected to God?... or is it a perverted mixture of fear, ego and blindness? Unless you start to clean your house from within, you'll create nothing but falsehood, well-meaning or not.
brickwall
PeaceAmazing talk, Zulf! I agree with all of it, but just highlighted the points that stood out in a way more. Truthseeker11, I am n your side, I have become a fan of Zulf as well bravo
I am also critical of what is present in the Quran, which has made several people doubt my intentions, tell me to lower my ego, etc, when it was in fact my own truth seeker side which brought things to my attention through my own usage of conscience, reasoning and observance of real world evidence.
I do currently think the Quran may have been divinely inspired, but not sure about the extent of the tampering that took place with it.
Peace
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4153 We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?
Allah will show us His Signs in the horizons - By the dawn; by the night fall - the beautiful timings of a day such as the sunrise and the sunset felt by us in our minds; if sunrise and sunset in the two horizons of opposite natures are so beautiful to our mind, then it is an indication to see things by the truth that whatever happens as opposites in all our lives e.g the changing fortunes by natural forces is truthfully beautiful if we set our eyes in the horizons looking up to the future, that alternatively keeps changing for the better i.e., the loss of fortunes is an indication of newer life which is about to begin in the opposite direction, in the eastern horizon with its ever beautiful liveliness. The only thing wanted of us by Allah is relax when you are down with your fortunes in His belief, looking up to your future in the opposite direction or horizon, to your worldly know how. This means you shall turn your backs to your ways of life and look up to Allah in absolute faith and relax. By the dusk, it is for your relaxation; and By the dawn a more beautiful life is very near when you wake up, if only you set your upon the two opposite horizons.
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I do currently think the Quran may have been divinely inspired, but not sure about the extent of the tampering that took place with it.
Which parts of the Quran are you doubtful of?
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Well, actually it may not even be clear what 'worship', 'God alone' and 'true believer' means.
Salam brother Zulf.
Perhaps it may not even be clear what "religion" means, when you say "One of Satan's (whatever Satan is) biggest successes is indeed the creation of religion."
If I say, my religion is being good and doing good to others - am I helping Satan?
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
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Which parts of the Quran are you doubtful of?
All doubts are based on the interpretations of the authors whose works result in translations; in other words, all translations are the opinions of the verses of Quran. We know the real meanings of every verse of Quran is individualized to the situation and experience of the individual and that Allah alone can reveal it to those who read a verse. Hence believe in the revelations and let the revelation of every single ayat guide you from the present to the future world. Put in each of your experiences of the revelation and glorify the Quran. Translation always shall end up in arguments and chaos. Only those who do not believe in the revelations of Allah will engage in arguments over the verses of Quran.
40.4 None argue concerning the revelations of Allah save those who disbelieve...
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It seems to me that those of us who worship God alone are a very tiny minority in the World. What are your thoughts?
They are a minority on this website too it seems!
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All doubts are based on the interpretations of the authors whose works result in translations; in other words, all translations are the opinions of the verses of Quran. We know the real meanings of every verse of Quran is individualized to the situation and experience of the individual and that Allah alone can reveal it to those who read a verse. Hence believe in the revelations and let the revelation of every single ayat guide you from the present to the future world. Put in each of your experiences of the revelation and glorify the Quran. Translation always shall end up in arguments and chaos. Only those who do not believe in the revelations of Allah will engage in arguments over the verses of Quran.
40.4 None argue concerning the revelations of Allah save those who disbelieve...
I do not agree on translations being the sole problem. Basically you are then insulting the 1.6 billion Muslims population's mindset then and them being evil and twisted. After digging deeper into it, I realized this idea is pretty much a nonsensical one. Too much emphasis on following a scripture than listening to and trusting our own conscience, reasoning and observance of real-world evidence. Not a single finger is ever pointed at the scripture for the way people are tormented because of it. It's always people's fault.
People fail to realize that after all we are limited and flawed human beings, and many do try their best to uphold what they can. If they still get attacked and criticized and judged on their character for having issues with the scripture, well, so be it. It's immensely tiring. And I like what Zulf said
"This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma."
Peace.
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I do not agree on translations being the sole problem. Basically you are then insulting the 1.6 billion Muslims population's mindset then and them being evil and twisted. After digging deeper into it, I realized this idea is pretty much a nonsensical one. Too much emphasis on following a scripture than listening to and trusting our own conscience, reasoning and observance of real-world evidence. Not a single finger is ever pointed at the scripture for the way people are tormented because of it. It's always people's fault.
People fail to realize that after all we are limited and flawed human beings, and many do try their best to uphold what they can. If they still get attacked and criticized and judged on their character for having issues with the scripture, well, so be it. It's immensely tiring. And I like what Zulf said
"This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma."
Peace.
No one gets as evil and twisted as me. I think its pretty ironic though that the people with funny ideas about justice are the ones who seem the most twisted of all often!
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Zulf is a sharp buddy and a fellow countryman too.
Belief is an invented delusion. God does not really seek belief. In fact the word iman/amen does not even come close to the definition which is traditionally used for it.
If you start speaking about spiritual affinity then you may be at least near the right track.Salaam
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Zulf is a sharp buddy and a fellow countryman too.
Belief is an invented delusion. God does not really seek belief. In fact the word iman/amen does not even come close to the definition which is traditionally used for it.
If you start speaking about spiritual affinity then you may be at least near the right track.Salaam
Maybe even speaking is too far gone!
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I do not agree on translations being the sole problem. Basically you are then insulting the 1.6 billion Muslims population's mindset then and them being evil and twisted. After digging deeper into it, I realized this idea is pretty much a nonsensical one. Too much emphasis on following a scripture than listening to and trusting our own conscience, reasoning and observance of real-world evidence. Not a single finger is ever pointed at the scripture for the way people are tormented because of it. It's always people's fault.
People fail to realize that after all we are limited and flawed human beings, and many do try their best to uphold what they can. If they still get attacked and criticized and judged on their character for having issues with the scripture, well, so be it. It's immensely tiring. And I like what Zulf said
"This is what religion is all about. People are following their own desires. People are just guessing and following conjecture. People have invented an external God which is just an imaginary construct. This is because people for starters don't even know about themselves. People have no idea how their own minds and brains work, and then they try to figure out things like 'God' and 'meaning of life'. Indeed people walk in blindness and darkness, but making very tall claims. People follow blind faith, which is something horrible. Religion is all about blind faith, while a connection to God is all about gradual experience and pondering... not repetition and self-hypnosis and self-indoctrination of religious guesswork dogma."
Peace.
If the mindset of 1.6 billion people are the same then Allah says not to follow the majority people for if you do they will lead you astray from the path of Allah. Shall we have to obey Allah or the to obey the mindset of the majority?
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If the mindset of 1.6 billion people are the same then Allah says not to follow the majority people for if you do they will lead you astray from the path of Allah. Shall we have to obey Allah or the to obey the mindset of the majority?
So again you are basically saying it is the 1.6 billion people who are unintelligent, unwise, twisted and has evil intentions. Basically all they need is to pronounce the Shahadah to be this way. Can you see the irony behind it? So why are a lot of Muslims this way? Is not a single finger going to be pointed at the scripture? Maybe their delusion of considering the scripture entirely good and to be entirely followed is what made them this way? Even many Christians and Jews seem to admit the fault in their scriptures and encourage separation of religion and state at least when government is involved.
Peace.
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I am sorry if I sound rude in any way. I have a tendency to be a little too direct.
Peace.
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So again you are basically saying it is the 1.6 billion people who are unintelligent, unwise, twisted and has evil intentions. Basically all they need is to pronounce the Shahadah to be this way. Can you see the irony behind it?
Peace.No. I do not. But Allah says 6/116 Please read the ayat and then comment.