Modern (Re) Take on: Life after Life
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The problem is that these 'evidence' are not good enough. They often have flaws. Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife. Afterlife is not anything we will ever be able to prove because it is not something 'physical'. All we know so far is that once the brain stops functioning at brain death, consciousness fails to survive and ceases to exist. If we were to act materialistic then we might as well deny the existance of an afterlife as we deny anything being spiritual. I think that atheists have a point when they say that the afterlife is exactly like it was before you were born and that this life could be considered an afterlife.
Personally I believe in an afterlife as well as in a God. I just don't see any Abrahamic religion letalone any other religion to have that God and afterlife I believe in. Neither do I believe that by disbelieving in God you'll miss an afterlife. That's just stupid. Religious people are not superior nor inferior. It is not their belief in God that matters but rather that they do good for others and this applies to anybody.
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Peace
Qoran explains death and after death.
The question is no longer do I have a soul?I am a soul and I have a garment which is my body.
When I die just means when my body will no longer exist. Me the soul, will return to the Creator.
My Creator will then resurrects me in another "body". It does not mean I will be human again. The new body would be of a different form.
Just like my first creation was different and in another world/dimension,before I was made human to inhabit this earth, my next life will be in a new form and a new world/dimension. The Creator decides when and how.
GOD bless you.
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Well, the works here are not to get to another world but rather get free of the shackles of the world and find the spirit. Those who manage will be worldless, or not attached to a specific world but not bound to any physical barriers.
The point is neither to believe in some (Pagan) god but be realized in that spirit as a matter of assimilation. Think of the Borg in Star Trek if you have been blessed seeing that motion picture science fiction. The mainframe is GOD. "Unclouded" nodes are interconnected with the mainframe, those who have found their true selves and reconnected with the mainframe. Consider that a modern parable.
Salaam
Salaan
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Peace Man Of Faith.
Nevertheless GOD says we will be resurrected and judged. including those who "find their spirit" like you put it. Hence a new form/a new dimension for this meeting with the Creator,called the "day of judgement".
GOD will settle the disputes. GOD will apply justice for all.
Shall we treat the "Muslimeen" like the "Mujrimeen"?
What is wrong with your logic?
Do you have another book to uphold?
In it, do you find anything you want?Films aside, this will be the reality.
While we are all entitled to our beliefs, GOD s guidance and HIS( no gender...) message leads us to the truth.
Our reasoning must be based on justice, integrity and knowledge of GOD s message, not fabrications, rumors and conjecture.
Otherwise, sooner or later we will be exposed and our efforts will go to waste"... GOD thus cites analogies for the truth and falsehood. As for the foam, it goes to waste, while that which benefits the people stays close to the ground. God thus cites the analogies.
GOD bless you.
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You cannot be resurrected when you do not die. Only those who are dead die.
Salaam
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Peace Man Of Faith.
I get what you are saying. Do you get what I am saying.
"Resurrected" just means brought back in a different form in a different world/dimension...
We will come back again to face the Creator altogether on that particular day,and move on...
GOD bless you.
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Do you get what I am writing? Can you be resurrected when you never die?
Salaam
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Peace Man of faith.
Since you are repeating your question/statement, I refer you to my last post.
GOD bless you.
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The problem is that these 'evidence' are not good enough. They often have flaws. Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife. Afterlife is not anything we will ever be able to prove because it is not something 'physical'.
Well the 'evidences' are based on 'testimony'... thus purely 'subjective'.
It might not tell exactly what might happened but certainly it's an insight on what might not happened.. (e.g. meeting Muhammad, Jesus, Osiris, Munkar / Nakir, asked about what do you think about the Bible, Quran etc..)And none of those 'testimony' sounds 'fishy' as in carrying certain agenda... (e.g. meeting Jesus, Muhammad asked about what you think about Quran/Bible/Egyptian Book Of The Dead etc..)
All we know so far is that once the brain stops functioning at brain death, consciousness fails to survive and ceases to exist.
Well based on the above 'testimony' it seems to be not the case..
Consciousness survive even after the death of the brain..
Thus it might also means, there's consciousness even before the brain is turned on...
Which put forward the question; how does the brain and consciousness really communicate with each others..I find the "Blind woman could see" during her "near death experience" as the most interesting...
I think that atheists have a point when they say that the afterlife is exactly like it was before you were born and that this life could be considered an afterlife.
Interesting.. yes they do have a point..
This life is an afterlife of the previous life.
Thus the proper name should not be "Life after Death" but "Life after Life"..Personally I believe in an afterlife as well as in a God. I just don't see any Abrahamic religion letalone any other religion to have that God and afterlife I believe in. Neither do I believe that by disbelieving in God you'll miss an afterlife. That's just stupid. Religious people are not superior nor inferior.
Certainly, and please remember the fact that Abraham never invented any religion.
As shown on the above, the believe or disbelieve in God or what do you think about certain figure or even a book doesn't really matter..
From my POV, religion always take advantage of 'human curiosity in after life' and came up with (ridiculous) explanation that suits the objective of certain parties... mostly the Priest / Cleric class or the King/Sultan.
Example (Ancient) Egyptian believe that they need a holy book ("Book Of The Dead" in order to survive from "Grave Torture" and gained a "happy afterlife" (in later evolution of such religion it's known as "Salvation". The holy book can be bought from the priest for a fee...
It is not their belief in God that matters but rather that they do good for others and this applies to anybody.
Definitely true...
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Near-death experience does not really prove anything about the afterlife.
Almost same like my opinion in this. I think near death experience does not prove anything about the afterlife.
near death death
near death = basically still alive
I do have faith that Who can put me in this world also can put me in whatever place He wants.
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Good logic,
And I refer to mine.
Salaam
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Peace Man Of Faith.
Fine, I will refer you to Qoran which says GOD will summon us altogether on that day.
So of course there are those who do not believe and those who believe in meeting the Lord
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Those who do not expect to meet us said, "If only the angels could come down to us, or we could see our Lord (we would then believe)!" Indeed, they have committed a gross arrogance, and have produced a gross blasphemy.2522
The day they see the angels, it will not be good news for the guilty; they will say, "Now, we are irreversibly confined."2523
We will look at all the works they have done, and render them null and void.2524
The dwellers of Paradise are far better on that day; they will hear better news.Brother, it will be a difficult day for some. Let us hope and pray for GOD s mercy then
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The heaven will break apart, into masses of clouds, and the angels will descend in multitudes.2526
All sovereignty on that day belongs to the Most Gracious. For the disbelievers, it will be a difficult day.Looking forward to that day brother.I sincerely hope we both have some good news and meet in favourable conditions.
GOD bless you.
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Having faith in your Creator is very important. If someone does not even have faith in Allah, then how he/she can understand about "rely upon Allah"?
Excuse me ? What do you mean by that?
Well if this "Allah" is really THE true creator, and not a deity from human imagination, then certainly He/It will have a "natural" connection or bond with all of things that He/It "create".
Thus no need to "believe" (read told/preached and believed on what was being told and preached) by some human and "relying" shall came "naturally"..
The connection or bond shall be more stronger than let''s say offspring and his/it's parent, living organism and oxygen, gravity and space, matter and anti-matter, body and consciousness.
Do we need to make a baby horse "believe" that it's mother exist?
And as the video of NDE above shows, the "NDE" phenomenon happened across the board, to those who believe and also not believe in "God". For all who has experienced such, their "NDE" has changed their outlook on life, many of them do not fear death anymore. Well many of them actually prefer to "stay dead" (living the life after this life) rather than to "live" again.
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Excuse me ? What do you mean by that?
Do you love your Creator?
If you love your Creator, then I hope someday you will understand about it ("rely upon Allah", inshaAllah.
I think we don't walk on the same path, Jafar, and I'm not sure if my words could increase your faith in Allah (if you have faith in Allah).
To be honest, I don't see you have respect for Allah.
And as the video of NDE above shows, the "NDE" phenomenon happened across the board, to those who believe and also not believe in "God". For all who has experienced such, their "NDE" has changed their outlook on life, many of them do not fear death anymore. Well many of them actually prefer to "stay dead" (living the life after this life) rather than to "live" again.
near death death
near death = basically still alive
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Good logic,
Some of us have already met the Lord.
Salaam
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Peace Man Of Faith.
All of us have met the Lord before this life,( do you remember?) and all of us are going to meet the Lord again.
GOD bless you.
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Good logic,
Well I have the Lord right here.
Salaam
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Peace hicham9
Brother, we are discussing amicably. No worries.
I was reminding brother Man Of Faith about the day of resurrection,even though he says the Lord is with him now
The horn will be blown, whereupon everyone in the heavens and the earth will be struck unconscious, except those who will be spared by God. Then it will be blown another time, whereupon they will all rise up, looking.
Thanks brother.
GOD bless you.
Peace.